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Post Post #3325 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:29 pm

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In post 3324, Titus wrote:
In post 3323, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3322, Titus wrote:@DGB for you too.
I was hoping for Cliff's Notes because I am lazy.
LC made a bunch of scummy posts.

A sample..
In post 2517, Titus wrote:
In post 2502, Logicalicaltist wrote:I’ve been thinking PK was scummy for most of the game.
My only issue is here is the fact that I don’t think I’ve seen PK on anyone’s TR’s this game.
Not to mention their wagon isn’t showing any resistance.
If they are scum, their buds are probably bussing.
My suggestion is that me and Alchemist target PK tonight and we go for someone else today.
What do you all think?
Because assuming they are Even-Night Vigilante and we eliminate that today, we lost our KPN and down another PR.
In post 2504, Logicalicaltist wrote:We need to make the best decision today!
These posts ping my scumdar.
"These posts ping my scumdar"

Is this supposed to be convincing? Elaborate on why they ping your 'dar.
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Post Post #3326 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:49 pm

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I'm don't have the energy to fight. The melodrama pings my scumdar as yesterday wasn't a high pressure situation. We didn't need to be perfect or fast. It's very salesman like.
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Post Post #3327 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 3326, Titus wrote:I'm don't have the energy to fight. The melodrama pings my scumdar as yesterday wasn't a high pressure situation. We didn't need to be perfect or fast. It's very salesman like.
We needed to make the right decision yesterday and we did.
We also decided to not get rid of Thun which was the right choice.
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Post Post #3328 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:49 pm

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In post 3312, Titus wrote:I have had LC and Temporal as partners ever since the Thun wagon.
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Post Post #3329 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:52 pm

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In post 1973, Logicalicaltist wrote:Not my fault you don’t see the crumbs on my cookie.
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Post Post #3330 (ISO) » Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:53 pm

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In post 3320, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3317, Vecna wrote:I was wrong on LC
Did he flip?
Oh I meant TL
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Post Post #3331 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:56 am

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In post 3259, Logicalicaltist wrote:
In post 3258, Vecna wrote:LogicalCaltist, did you ever get notified that you were roleblocked N1? What response did you get from the GM the night you tracked Alchemist?
“There were no results from the tracking.”
I still think this is an awkward quote from the mod. So in that vein, it supports a scum!Logicalist. I can see a scum!Logic covering for a scum!Thun/Adorable. That "quote" just sticks out like a bee sting. And the Thun/Adorable transition was awkward. It certainly satisfies that Occam test.

It doesn't account for A50's death though, and that's where Vecna's theory makes sense. And I don't hear anyone claiming to have vigged him, unless chk did.
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Post Post #3332 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:47 am

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Post Post #3333 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:20 am

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Prod received.
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Post Post #3334 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:49 am

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In post 3331, Galron wrote:
In post 3259, Logicalicaltist wrote:
In post 3258, Vecna wrote:LogicalCaltist, did you ever get notified that you were roleblocked N1? What response did you get from the GM the night you tracked Alchemist?
“There were no results from the tracking.”
I still think this is an awkward quote from the mod. So in that vein, it supports a scum!Logicalist. I can see a scum!Logic covering for a scum!Thun/Adorable. That "quote" just sticks out like a bee sting. And the Thun/Adorable transition was awkward. It certainly satisfies that Occam test.

It doesn't account for A50's death though, and that's where Vecna's theory makes sense. And I don't hear anyone claiming to have vigged him, unless chk did.
Case A: LC is actually a tracker. The phrasing is odd, but probably originates from the mod.

Case B: LC is not actually a tracker. LC is scum with specifically scum with Thun.

Case B is very low risk for town because both slots are independently highly scumread and still likely nightkills so their continued survival would only continue raising eyebrows.

chk provably didn't vig A50. His role only triggered if he was the elimination and the mod confirmed that. He was nightkilled, and was likely fakeclaiming his role to try to dodge a nk from scum. Given setup information, if Thun isn't a vig, it's almost 100% that one kill was the result of A50's N1 target and one kill was the result of the scum kill.

Further, if Thun/LC is the scumteam, we're missing a significant amount of town power.

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would be scumsided in a 16p, even without Alch's role (which was almost certainly balanced as an ascetic survivor). Conversely, scum only having 3 people would be pretty weak against the flipped town power, and one of LC/Thun would have to be town anyway.
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Post Post #3335 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:51 am

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In post 3316, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3313, Titus wrote:Also, DGB I did see your comment about me being suspect. I am cop cleared. Deal with Town Titus, even if you don't like her.
What cop, the third party?
Not worth crossing this bridge today, imo.
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Post Post #3336 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:52 am

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In post 3319, DrippingGoofball wrote:Why is Logicalaltist "LC"
Not sure, but someone referred to him that way and I took it up after realizing it wasn't a reference to a defunct hydra of mine.

It's definitely shorter and unique to him in this PL though.
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Post Post #3337 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:35 am

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VOTE: Logicalicaltist

I'm happy to vote for a player who cockblocked me from beheading the third party all game.
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Post Post #3338 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:57 am

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Where did you get novice vig, Bingle? He claimed even night Vigilante.
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Post Post #3339 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:42 pm

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TLich's role is stronger than a 1 shot novice vig for scum. It's a comparison to a role that is easier to balance to put said balance in perspective.

If he claims D1, he can functionally guarantee his ability to shoot on N2.
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Post Post #3340 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:44 pm

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(To clarify, that list assumes that both LC and Thun would be goons if they were scum together, which is a safe assumption because giving them additional power would make that proposed setup even more scumsided.)
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Post Post #3341 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:49 pm

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I'm not really sure how to contribute rn I guess if anyone has questions I can answer.
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Post Post #3342 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:23 pm

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In post 3337, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Logicalicaltist

I'm happy to vote for a player who cockblocked me from beheading the third party all game.
Yeah well I don’t think it matters too much if I’m eliminated here, considering the Traitor and Mafia Vigilante is dead.
Like I won’t be mad, but I can still find mafia because I’m Tracker.
So it’s up to you. Would you rather me be yeeted or would you rather me be Night Killed anyway because I’m Tracker.
Eventually I’ll be NK’ed unless they decide to just keep the RBer on me.
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Post Post #3343 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:25 pm

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@Bingle
So what exactly is your solve here?
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Post Post #3344 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:26 pm

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In post 3341, Froppy wrote:I'm not really sure how to contribute rn I guess if anyone has questions I can answer.
Who is better between Ochako or Momo?
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Post Post #3345 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 3342, Logicalicaltist wrote:
In post 3337, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Logicalicaltist

I'm happy to vote for a player who cockblocked me from beheading the third party all game.
Yeah well I don’t think it matters too much if I’m eliminated here, considering the Traitor and Mafia Vigilante is dead.
Like I won’t be mad, but I can still find mafia because I’m Tracker.
So it’s up to you. Would you rather me be yeeted or would you rather me be Night Killed anyway because I’m Tracker.
Eventually I’ll be NK’ed unless they decide to just keep the RBer on me.
OK then who is a better lynch than you?

HINT: Alchemist would be a terrific answer.
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Post Post #3346 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:20 pm

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VOTE: Logicalicaltist

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Post Post #3347 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:46 pm

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In post 3344, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 3341, Froppy wrote:I'm not really sure how to contribute rn I guess if anyone has questions I can answer.
Who is better between Ochako or Momo?
Fumikage obviously
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Post Post #3348 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:03 pm

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Correct. Dark Shadow was also acceptable. I will now not vote you and shall

VOTE: Logic

That's E-1 I think.
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Post Post #3349 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 3345, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3342, Logicalicaltist wrote:
In post 3337, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Logicalicaltist

I'm happy to vote for a player who cockblocked me from beheading the third party all game.
Yeah well I don’t think it matters too much if I’m eliminated here, considering the Traitor and Mafia Vigilante is dead.
Like I won’t be mad, but I can still find mafia because I’m Tracker.
So it’s up to you. Would you rather me be yeeted or would you rather me be Night Killed anyway because I’m Tracker.
Eventually I’ll be NK’ed unless they decide to just keep the RBer on me.
OK then who is a better lynch than you?

HINT: Alchemist would be a terrific answer.
I mean I still keep my word that you shouldn’t kill Third Party’s that aren’t killers.

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