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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:06 pm

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Town Read

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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:08 pm

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In case that wasn't clear, that's from most town to most scum to me right now

Also, page top is ours once more, rejoice!
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:25 pm

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In post 574, ready2rock wrote:I'd say mafi is a bit at the moment (though I've been reading him as town), and Nosferatu

I didn't unvote, my vote is still on Blair, and I feel that if I were scum I'd have given up this push a long time ago after the first 2 or 3 times because it hasn't been gaining any traction from people, but I'm continuing because it's helping me get a better feel of my read.
In post 572, Nosferatu wrote:ya hes quivering in fear

already caught scum p much wrap it up
I didn't know BM was caught scum

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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:43 pm

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In post 569, ready2rock wrote:Moreso that you cast the suspicion to leave bait there to see who would take it, and see if a wagon might be able to catch on, then not need to take responsibility for starting the wagon, because after all, you weren't the first vote or were the one who the case yourself.
Serious Question:

Do I strike you as the sort of person who tries to avoid taking credit for starting wagons?
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:45 pm

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I mean, I legitimately DID take credit for starting that exact wagon:
In post 214, Blair wrote:
In post 213, Mafia Goon wrote:I pretty much agree with your reasons for pressuring him, Inin.
I agree, excellent reasons.
In post 184, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 178, Blair wrote:Happy birthday, Umlaut!

FoS: Ready2Rock
VOTE: ready2rock I can get behind this
There can objectively be no better reasoning.
In post 218, Blair wrote:
In post 216, midwaybear wrote:@blair he did elaborate here.
You misunderstand. I wasn't mocking him for failing to explain his read.

I was praising him for sheeping my glorious read.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:12 pm

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In post 578, Blair wrote:
In post 569, ready2rock wrote:Moreso that you cast the suspicion to leave bait there to see who would take it, and see if a wagon might be able to catch on, then not need to take responsibility for starting the wagon, because after all, you weren't the first vote or were the one who the case yourself.
Serious Question:

Do I strike you as the sort of person who tries to avoid taking credit for starting wagons?
OK, this...is a fair point

Let me ask then, what
was
your reason for the FoS post? (178)

I don't mean why did you suspect me, I understand that, but why not a vote? Why not give further explanation at the time?

What's been bothering me is that it feels like town!blair would reference the post in question, call out what you thought was wrong with it, and accompany it with a vote. That's why it feels so out of place to me
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:22 pm

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In post 580, ready2rock wrote:I don't mean why did you suspect me, I understand that, but why not a vote? Why not give further explanation at the time?
I didn't vote for you because I wasn't finished pushing the Midway wagon as far as it would go.

I didn't give further explanation at the time because: A.) I thought the context made it clear what I was reacting to, and B.) I find a certain degree of ambiguity in early-game pushes (context: this was on page 8) helps make the "pressure" of the push feel more real (because a self-conscious target will often project a stronger case onto the blank slate, and react accordingly).
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:51 am

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@r2r
The last scum is probably in {r2r, Blair, Dunn}
nosferatu, BM, Puppy, and goon all seem townie. If my poe is correct, then we should win every time(unless there's 3 scum).
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:09 am

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midway vote! your POE is all viable wagonsx and you're not voting
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:54 am

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In post 574, ready2rock wrote:I'd say mafi is a bit at the moment (though I've been reading him as town), and Nosferatu
My sincerest apologies. The mafia roleblocker had a serious injury and he's gonna be working from home for the next few weeks. The good news? With hard and consistent work, I might be looking at a promotion soon!
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:59 am

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Blair, Dunn was Ydrasse's counterwagon. Additionally, Ydrasse acted very strange around Dunny in the way that it spews him as town. She acted like she didn't want to vote Dunn and voted me instead, while leaving the option to vote him afterwards, since she knew she might have to since he's her counterwagon. That's scum going for towncred for not looking survivalistic, while letting themselves vote their counterwagon later for prior stated reasons. Do you disagree?

This sequence:
In post 378, Ydrasse wrote:honestly i didn't have any better leads than dunn right now, he's provided... nothing at all for me to townread. like yeah he claimed and stuff but i'm just sort of... /shrug at him.

i don't like the idea of an r2r wagon, there's been suspicion pointed at blair but i just don't get why and my tr is still there on her.
In post 379, Ydrasse wrote:tho going over things now i'd also launch mafia goon. idk why his vote is on blair right now because i don't see that as a Thing that is happening and it seems to be like. skirting the edges of the dunn wagon.
In post 380, Ydrasse wrote:but i tr everyone on the dunn wagon too.

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In post 381, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: Mafia Goon

i'll be around either later 2nite or tomorrow if we haven't launched anyone yet.
If Ydrasse is scum with Dunny, she either stays on him for the bussing towncred, or tries to push something else and save her scum buddy. In what world does she abandon the wagon and push someone who isn't getting launched? None of the worlds is what I'm implying if that wasn't clear.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:06 am

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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:58 am

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mafi dont u know? we only do lazy low hanging fruit scumhunting here

post a lot of dumb questions = town bro
no post = scum
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:13 am

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I see. I'll look into that.

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I looked into it. We should be launching Umlaut today.

VOTE: Umlaut
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:15 am

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sorry guys i havent got much time at the moment to do proper thinking. did look at Ydrasse ISO and still happy it's Nosferatu. He was lumped in the "could be scum" block for a bit of distancing, but the rationale for him not being an active target was particularly contrived.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:31 pm

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its ok ill wait as long as i need for u to publish ur scumpost magnum opus
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:18 pm

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@Blair: As I was going to sleep last night, my thought was that it was
because
it didn't seem like you to shirk responsibility for a wagon, that it felt so off to me. That said, I like the answer you gave, and since that was the main thing that set off my radar I'm going to UNVOTE:
In post 589, Battle Mage wrote:sorry guys i havent got much time at the moment to do proper thinking. did look at Ydrasse ISO and still happy it's Nosferatu. He was lumped in the "could be scum" block for a bit of distancing, but the rationale for him not being an active target was particularly contrived.
I'm down for this

VOTE: Nosferatu
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:44 am

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That's not very convincing
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:33 am

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Noseferatu doesn't feel like a merciless busser.
In post 390, Nosferatu wrote:i am totally fine w this lynch as well

VOTE: ydrasse
This vote put Ydrasse on L-1. He disappears after the Ydrasse cop claim though, so a shame we don't get to see his reaction to that and whether he'd unvote or stay on. Next he comes online is after the inno counterclaim.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:15 am

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Ok, I should have more time on this game now.
@Nosferatu is BM scum just because of how he voted Ydrasse? I know he pressured you for some bad reasons early in the game, but is there anything more to it?
I'm leaning away from Dunnstral, but he probably has to go at some point in this game because he isn't doing much right now.
r2r and Blair I need to look at more...
Still not sure who to vote yet, but we have time.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:10 am

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In post 591, ready2rock wrote:
In post 589, Battle Mage wrote:sorry guys i havent got much time at the moment to do proper thinking. did look at Ydrasse ISO and still happy it's Nosferatu. He was lumped in the "could be scum" block for a bit of distancing, but the rationale for him not being an active target was particularly contrived.
I'm down for this

VOTE: Nosferatu
before bm elaborates id love for u to tell me how this argument was contrived
In post 268, Ydrasse wrote:also ngl reading this game feels like i'm looking at a blob of "meh" with a few light trs (hi inno, hi blair) thrown in there which makes parsing through it all feel like my brain is turning into goo. i don't know what that means mafia is doing other than either blending in or just... not playing right now which means we're all kind of half-heartedly pointing fingers at each other hoping something sticks.

that sentiment implicates nosferatu, dunn and r2r if going off of like, strictly numbers. of them i like nosferatu the most bc of that dunn/blair thing.
dunno if it is or isnt but i just wanna hear u say it
midwaybear wrote:@Nosferatu is BM scum just because of how he voted Ydrasse?
as of this moment ya p much
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:00 am

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Oh I'm voting you for a different reason BM is, and I pointed it out on the last page and it kind of just flew over your head in a way that I found pretty amusing

Let me try to make it more clear in case others also missed it
In post 572, Nosferatu wrote:ya hes quivering in fear

already caught scum p much wrap it up
In post 564, Umlaut wrote:
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:13 pm

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bruh why do i have to post to avoid prodge again and there isn't even a full page since my last post
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:14 pm

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In post 592, Dunnstral wrote:That's not very convincing
this to me actually read town, maybe it's a stupid post to make a hard read on but i'm running out of cares

midway/puppy/dunn townbloc, launch whoever and we win the game right
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:15 pm

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In post 594, midwaybear wrote:Ok, I should have more time on this game now.
@Nosferatu is BM scum just because of how he voted Ydrasse? I know he pressured you for some bad reasons early in the game, but is there anything more to it?
I'm leaning away from Dunnstral, but he probably has to go at some point in this game because he isn't doing much right now.
r2r and Blair I need to look at more...
Still not sure who to vote yet, but we have time.
u left me out because i'm obvtown right :D

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