Open 786 | Dream Mafia | Cult Win!

[midwaybear]

Vote count 2.01

It is Day 2!
With 8 votes, it takes 5 to hammer. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2020-08-14 21:30:00).

VC

Jesus Christ(2): spicer1209 [555], Hiraki [557]
Psyche(1): iamausername [558]
iamausername(1): Aristophanes [559]
Not Voting: innocentvillager, Jesus Christ, Psyche, and Ythan

Dreams

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• Searching for a replacement for Psyche

[Jesus Christ]

No one has given any reasons that Psyche is scummy or towny yet. So I guess we hang iamausername today.

[Ythan]

Sigh.

VOTE: Jesus

[spicer1209]

Ffs Psyche...thanks for wasting everyone’s time.

Alright well what do we do here? We gave two days and no one seems interested in playing.

Jesus isn’t scum. He’s the friendly neighbor and he visited me last night. I wanted to start the wagon on him to see who would hop on. This plan goes to fucking shit if no one posts.

VOTE: Hiraki

You hopped on the wagon for logic as well and Ythan has been too combative and spammy in the beginning game does me to think he is scum.

[Ythan]

Sigh.

UNVOTE: Jesus

[Hiraki]

Yeah, I was pretty clear on why I hopped on the wagon for logic but okay.

Why did you out with 3 votes?

[Aristophanes]

Ffs Psyche...thanks for wasting everyone’s time.

HEY!
Don't talk to my friend like that!
I appreciated them attempting this game and if it ended upnot working in their schedule then I'm fine with the replace out. No need to be rude.

Alright well what do we do here? We gave two days and no one seems interested in playing.

I am, I merely think we have limited play options right now and should hurry up with the day-end already.

Jesus isn’t scum. He’s the friendly neighbor and he visited me last night. I wanted to start the wagon on him to see who would hop on. This plan goes to fucking shit if no one posts.

VOTE: Hiraki

You hopped on the wagon for logic as well and Ythan has been too combative and spammy in the beginning game does me to think he is scum.

Cool, this tells us an awful lot actually. I'll look back and see what it changes.

[iamausername]

VOTE: Hiraki

do you think Hiraki is the cult leader? because his obvious desperation to save Psyche yesterday suggests otherwise to me.

[spicer1209]

VOTE: Hiraki

do you think Hiraki is the cult leader? because his obvious desperation to save Psyche yesterday suggests otherwise to me.

Maybe. Maybe not. However according to the set up given to us if there is a friendly neighbor then that means there is a scum role cop which would be a valuable thing for town to get out of the game no? What I do know is we can’t keep doing this 5 posts a day bullshit and hoping things magically fall into place for us. The ONLY other thing that makes sense for scum along those lines is the Korina slot is the rolecop and that’s why he was threatening the town power roles not to target him or else he’d get pissed. I would want to explore that option more before the deadline if we could

[Aristophanes]

The ONLY other thing that makes sense for scum along those lines is the Korina slot is the rolecop and that’s why he was threatening the town power roles not to target him or else he’d get pissed. I would want to explore that option more before the deadline if we could

Talk with me then if you like. I'm actively around tn.

[innocentvillager]

sorry RL has been pretty busy lately

i do like this post though, gives me townvibes

VOTE: Hiraki

do you think Hiraki is the cult leader? because his obvious desperation to save Psyche yesterday suggests otherwise to me.

Maybe. Maybe not. However according to the set up given to us if there is a friendly neighbor then that means there is a scum role cop which would be a valuable thing for town to get out of the game no? What I do know is we can’t keep doing this 5 posts a day bullshit and hoping things magically fall into place for us. The ONLY other thing that makes sense for scum along those lines is the Korina slot is the rolecop and that’s why he was threatening the town power roles not to target him or else he’d get pissed. I would want to explore that option more before the deadline if we could

[iamausername]

if there is a friendly neighbor then that means there is a scum role cop which would be a valuable thing for town to get out of the game no?

not particularly? one of the two town PRs is already outed, and even if the rolecop is able to find the other, how much does that even help them? they don't have a night kill.

if we hit cult leader, the rolecop might as well be a vanilla cultist for all the use it would be
if we hit town, it doesn't really matter if the rolecop finds our tracker/jailkeeper, there's nothing much they can do with that info
the only way they might possibly get some value out of the role at this point is if we hit the N1 recruit, then they will have space on their team to recruit the PR IF they manage to find it. or i guess if they failed to recruit N1 for some reason. both of these scenarios seem pretty unlikely to me.

don't get me wrong, i'd back a Hiraki execution over any other choice than Psyche, because i do think he's cult. but the fact that he's probably a rolecop doesn't really make it a stronger choice than any other non-CL cult.

[Hiraki]

VOTE: Hiraki

do you think Hiraki is the cult leader? because his obvious desperation to save Psyche yesterday suggests otherwise to me.

"obvious desperation" lol

[Jesus Christ]

Hiraki's desperation to save Psyche makes sense without them being cult...
VOTE: iamausername

[Hiraki]

Unvote: Jesus Christ

[spicer1209]

Hiraki's desperation to save Psyche makes sense without them being cult...
VOTE: iamausername

This is a really bad vote. I’d be willing to bet it all that User is town. And also no...it doesn’t make sense with out Hiraki being cult.

[Hiraki]

I already said that I TR'd BM. I didn't like logical but I knew he would flip town.

[iamausername]

I didn't like logical but I knew he would flip town.

and yet you voted for him

when i had just as many votes as he did, and you apparently thought i was cult

you're making out like it was a straight choice between Logic and Psyche and you chose the lesser of two evils, but the only reason it became a choice between those two was BECAUSE of your vote

why did you not just leave your vote on me?

[Hiraki]

when i had just as many votes as he did, and you apparently thought i was cult

really? you wanna play this game?

Vote count 1.08

It is Day 1!
With 9 votes, it takes 5 to hammer. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-08-05 23:16:30).

VC

Aristophanes(2): Battle Mage[77] and Ythan [102]
Psyche(2): innocentvillager [216] and spicer1209 [331]
iamausername (2): Logicalicaltist [410] and Aristophanes [430]
Jesus Christ(1): Hiraki [180]
Hiraki(1): iamusername [435]
Not Voting: Jesus Christ[473]

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[iamausername]

VC

Psyche(3): innocentvillager [216], spicer1209 [331], and iamausername[501]
Logicalicaltist(3): Jesus Christ [507], Ythan [511], and Hiraki [523]
iamausername (2): Logicalicaltist [410] and Aristophanes [430]
Jesus Christ(1): Hiraki [180]
Not Voting: Psyche[512]

here's the vote count from the top of page 22. Hiraki's vote change from me to Logic comes at the very end of page 21, so minus the mod error second Hiraki vote on Jesus, this is exactly where the votes stood after he made that vote.

so, when he decided to vote for Logic, the votes looked like this:

Psyche (3) - inno, spicer, username
username (3) - Logic, Ari, Hiraki
Logic (2) - Jesus, Ythan

Not Voting (1) - Psyche

imagine you are town!Hiraki in this scenario. you have townreads on Psyche and Logic. you have scumreads on Jesus and username.

do you:

a) join a wagon on a player you townread, started by a player you scumread, and thus dismantle a wagon on your other scumread

or

b) not do that?

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like, yes, ok, there's an impending deadline to worry about, and you erroneously believe that there's a risk of no execution occurring (regardless of his alignment, i do believe that Hiraki missed the rule on compulsive executions). but... it's safe to assume that Psyche will vote for me out of self-preservation if nothing else. you only have to persuade one other person to join the username wagon. both innocentvillager and spicer have stated that they think i'm cult at this point, they just don't think i'm cult leader.

i just don't see how you reach the conclusion that my wagon is a hopeless case right here.

i don't see how your townread on Psyche can be strong enough on D1 that it's worth giving up on the chance at executing a scumread just to keep him alive.

i don't see how you can simultaneously admit that you made that vote because it was the best way to avoid a Psyche execution and act like you weren't doing that.

why are you so sure that Psyche is town?

[Hiraki]

Ythan and Ari both said you were off the table. That's it - there's no more discussion there. Stop trying to make this "why didn't you vote me!!!" I've already answered that.

[Hiraki]

why are you so sure that Psyche is town?

I'm also not answering the same questions over and over again.

[spicer1209]

why are you so sure that Psyche is town?

I'm also not answering the same questions over and over again.

Or you could just be helpful and ya know...answer the question.

[Hiraki]

his vote is the one that fully shifted momentum from me to Logic as the Psyche alternative, and did so while expressing that he thought i was cult and Logic wasn’t. this just flatly makes no sense from a town perspective.

I'd rather have Psyche alive than Logical? Logical at least tried to play the game, Psyche hasn't yet? Psyche replaced BM who I've TR'd this game? I wanted to make sure an elimination went through yesterday?

[Hiraki]

Yeah, why don't I do that spicer? Am I really being unhelpful by saying stop asking the same questions?