being a dick when people genuinely try to ask you questions isn't a way to avoid a long walk off a short pierIn post 205, Hiraki wrote:you are a fucking comedianIn post 203, Dannflor wrote:You're saying it wasn't a hard scum read now, is that the case?
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That would explain your earlier stated winratesIn post 466, TripleHaven wrote:
the only time town wins these types of games is if scum is obvious or isn't playing wellIn post 463, TripleHaven wrote:ok, TO BE FAIR- most of my games are turbos (16 minute/8 minute) games and nobody takes them seriously.I'm a hoot
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I just think hiraki doesn't know when to stop acting like an assholeIn post 222, Dannflor wrote:I mean by now my read has evolved
I now think you're scum that has been "caught for the wrong reasons" and that's why you're so frustrated. Of course, a townie can get mad for getting scum read for shit reasons too, but they usually try to sort the people scum reading them as well. The aggression feels like a mask for your alignment.
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I've voted 4 people this game
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asking the same question multiple times is a good way to irritate meIn post 500, Gamma Emerald wrote:
being a dick when people genuinely try to ask you questions isn't a way to avoid a long walk off a short pierIn post 205, Hiraki wrote:
you are a fucking comedianIn post 203, Dannflor wrote:You're saying it wasn't a hard scum read now, is that the case?-
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You've voted 5, 3 of which in the last 12 hours.In post 503, TripleHaven wrote:I've voted 4 people this game
two of which weren't even serious votes
And they were serious until someone called you out.I'm a hoot
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Okay I can actually get thisIn post 247, Hiraki wrote:
Have you ever felt that someone was pushing hard on you after saying you were scum four times without ever showing any proof on Page 5 of the game? Also there is legitimately nothing that would make you scum and you've even said this in the thread but theIn post 244, Testarossa wrote:Is it just the semantics argument about it painting as a "hard push"?hardpush was sohardthat it was scummy.
There is no semantics issue here. It's an overreaction to nothing. It's scum paranoia.
and yeah from what I'm seeing in the post preview window I'm right about what Hiraki was doing<Embrace The Void>
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either way your point is stupid and me voting a lot of people is irrelevent to my allignment unless you want to convince me otherwiseIn post 506, dramonic wrote:
You've voted 5, 3 of which in the last 12 hours.In post 503, TripleHaven wrote:I've voted 4 people this game
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like do you *actually* have a problem with me voting a lot of people or do you just want to keep shading meIn post 508, TripleHaven wrote:
either way your point is stupid and me voting a lot of people is irrelevent to my allignment unless you want to convince me otherwiseIn post 506, dramonic wrote:
You've voted 5, 3 of which in the last 12 hours.In post 503, TripleHaven wrote:I've voted 4 people this game
two of which weren't even serious votes
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has Menalque answered thisIn post 258, Hiraki wrote:Why would you think that Dram, who is scummy, would give out correct reads?
I wanna chime in if he has<Embrace The Void>
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Yeah, I think he does. It's not a good answer.In post 510, Gamma Emerald wrote:
has Menalque answered thisIn post 258, Hiraki wrote:Why would you think that Dram, who is scummy, would give out correct reads?
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Your initial read on Hiraki was meta, but because that has been redacted so is this one. 394 has you looking at meta to invalidate reads. I thought I remembered more, but the only other case is with teacher, which teacher brought up first. So I take it back - I remember being surprised at 394 and also remembered your read on Hiraki, which is probably why I felt that way.In post 416, Menalque wrote:
Hi marashu, where do you think I’ve been looking a lot at meta this game?In post 415, Marashu wrote:I feel like Mena's been looking at meta a lot this game, moreso than the one other game I played with Mena.
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Kind of a loaded question. You're scum, so I don't actually care what you do. I'm just pointing out the scumplay and it's a dime a dozen with ya.In post 509, TripleHaven wrote:
like do you *actually* have a problem with me voting a lot of people or do you just want to keep shading meIn post 508, TripleHaven wrote:
either way your point is stupid and me voting a lot of people is irrelevent to my allignment unless you want to convince me otherwiseIn post 506, dramonic wrote:
You've voted 5, 3 of which in the last 12 hours.In post 503, TripleHaven wrote:I've voted 4 people this game
two of which weren't even serious votes
And they were serious until someone called you out.
EDIT: ~actions in previous games do not excuse actions in this one~I'm a hoot
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okay how was the meta thing mena posted detailed at allIn post 277, teacher wrote:
Oddly, when I missed Mena's meta-angle case on Hiraki, my thought was that the overescalation was scum theater between the two of them. But I dont think he makes that detailed case on a partner. Nor do I think gives me a hard town read rn as scum. My playstyle (at least historically) often led to day 2/3 suspicions forming a consensus on me as null-scum, and thus a simple push to save for later/leaver yourself open to. The post as a whole didnt feel planned/pockety, so for today at least Im not suspicious of him (I have too much respect for his scum game to take a harder stance than that.)In post 276, dramonic wrote:
You can still get your money in teach!In post 164, dramonic wrote:Bets are open about how many appeals to the crowd we'll get from Menalque before she flips scum
the only meta I recall was the replace out stuff, which a) wasn't even dealing with Hiraki, but BP, and b) boiled down to elli tell/RWSTFO, not really what I'd call detailed
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okay I just figured out how "meta" got involved, menalque wasn't commenting on Hiraki's meta in particular at all. He was talking about Hiraki being behind on site meta, i.e. how certain plays and behaviors are viewed by the general playerbase<Embrace The Void>
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niceIn post 512, Marashu wrote:
Your initial read on Hiraki was meta, but because that has been redacted so is this one. 394 has you looking at meta to invalidate reads. I thought I remembered more, but the only other case is with teacher, which teacher brought up first. So I take it back - I remember being surprised at 394 and also remembered your read on Hiraki, which is probably why I felt that way.In post 416, Menalque wrote:
Hi marashu, where do you think I’ve been looking a lot at meta this game?In post 415, Marashu wrote:I feel like Mena's been looking at meta a lot this game, moreso than the one other game I played with Mena.
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So like, obviously scum has to find the other team to avoid a tie/kingmaker/happy-ever-after situation, but that does NOT mean they have to be honest about what their reads are, given that they can just shoot players they think are on the opposite team if that's how they want to play. There's probably a degree of honesty to any scum's reads, but it's warped to fit their agenda<Embrace The Void>
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Intentional or not this is ironic as hellIn post 280, Hiraki wrote:I don't particularly scumread this but I understand where you're coming from. I certainly did notice it, just became annoying.<Embrace The Void>
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noIn post 284, dramonic wrote:
OOFIn post 277, teacher wrote:(I have too much respect for his scum game to take a harder stance than that.)
My kingdom for a dayvig
that's actually a very reasonable thought to have, rather than be cocksure about menalque being town, teacher understands menalque's skill as scum and is thus providing a grain of salt for any townread he has on menalque<Embrace The Void>
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VI exists for a reason :fp:In post 290, dramonic wrote:... he's calling you an idiot.
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okay I think I understand why Hiraki first responded to me the way he didIn post 296, Hiraki wrote:no - you are not missing anything and the fact that you think calling him scum 4 times is "baiting" him into a scumreading me for doing so is just why i don't think it's worth talking to you anymore.
please read the entire post if you want to understand the two people and how they come into play. i just did it and i got annoyed because i was being babyish. i'm not explaining it. your hint is that it's clearly melanque and me and i don't know how i have to explain more than that
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In post 307, teacher wrote:It’s been a minute for that one. Glad we keep the literal geriatrics around for the reminders. Good memories.that's...not that old of a song?I understand Daft Punk have been around for a decent amount of time but I wouldn't expect them to play on an oldies station
itt I get suddenly sidetracked by music<Embrace The Void>
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I think I actually do agree, and if I didn't have someone else I wanted to vote more I'd probably vote him when my catch-up wraps upIn post 522, Hiraki wrote:i didn't think you would tbh, just hoped you would find the same read on melanque. sad!
(yes I do already have someone I want to vote more)
also I'm pretty solidly thinking you're town now fwiw<Embrace The Void>
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