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[Cthylla]

this is a big part of the reason i secret alt btw
not because i have any meta tells - i don't think i do or no one's found one as far as i'm aware
but just because people see someone they've played with before acting differently from the previous game where that person was town, and assume that means they're scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

"Acting" sure about reads isn’t something i’d consider townie at all.

[Cthylla]

i change playstyle and gimmick across alts
sureness of reads are part of playstyle and i have plenty of town and scum games where i act very sure about reads
and also plenty where i act or am unsure about them

I sort of understand this, this account has a functioN as well although it's not completely clear unless I told you what it was. Although to some degree I disagree with the notion of "faking confidence" since so many levels of mafia tend to get lost while playing over text I feel like that is something that should be preserved. But I guess it wasn't your choice to out so there isn't much you could have done about this.

i haven't faked any confidence in this game fwiw
which is why i'm interested as to where EE is even getting those feels

[Cthylla]

"Acting" sure about reads isn’t something i’d consider townie at all.

right
you've ignored all i've said and latched onto that
not a good look for you

i haven't acted sure of my reads this game
where do you think i have?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s the general vibe i’ve been getting from you. Although i guess when you played as Hel you also had a similar-ish way of playing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess if you insist on yourself being unreadable i’ll have to consider finding other means of investigating you.
VOTE: Word321
What’s your read on Word Chtulhu?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, Clidd?

[Cthylla]

don't like his entrance
11 is a very safe opening post where you vote and joke around with someone you know and have played with before
it's an easy way for scum to enter the game by using familiarity as a foothold
i learnt this scumtell from insomnia when he used it successfully on me

133 is a lil shady as well because the first two lines kinda feel like he's forcing those comments out for the sake of them(?)
and the open mech question is slightly scummy because it's not asking about something specific which could be helpful
it's just a very open ended question designed to look helpful

i'll have a confidence meter at the bottom of any reads for your benefit Norwee
i'm just a generous guy like that

Confidence Metre

NO CONFIDENCE <<<<<<<<<<o>

>

>>>>>>>> EXTREMEMLY CONFIDENT

[Cthylla]

Also, Clidd?

Clidd is an angel
mindmelded with his thoughts on Green Crayon's mechposts
and his tone is free and towny

[Cthylla]

ALMOST forgot the confidence metre

Confidence Metre

NO CONFIDENCE <<<<<<<<<<o>>>

>

>>>>>> EXTREMEMLY CONFIDENT

[Cthylla]

wait i think my confidence metre is skewed too far to the right
i'll redo those

Word Confidence Metre

IGNORANT <<<<<<

<

<<<o>>>>>>>>>> OMNIESCIENT

Clidd Confidence Metre

IGNORANT <<<<<<<<<<o>>

>

>>>>>>> OMNIESCIENT

seems about right

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'll have a confidence meter at the bottom of any reads for your benefit Norwee
i'm just a generous guy like that

Those are nice, but to increase my amusement can you instead make a Geiger counter type confidence exclamation where the more confident you are, the more rapidly you start beeping?

Clidd is town. (BEEP - BEEP - BEEP)
Word is scummy. (BEEP... - BOP... - BEEP...)

[clidd]

I'm back with a better view.

[clidd]

walk and chew bubble gum is a saying that just means you can do two things at once.

if you're trying to get AI from strategy discussion, you're doing it wrong for the reasons I've already stated. glad we've successfully gone full circle on this. want to continue to spin tires?

I can't see why it would be invalid for me to take an AI impression of a mechanical post that looks like a filler to fill space. By extension, this would also be hypothetically ignoring mechanical post spam, as I cannot draw AI conclusions from their presence (it doesn't work).

But looking back at those posts again, I didn't feel bad faith on your part to explain your point of view to me in a logical way (although I don't agree with the reasoning). In fact, I noticed a subtle anger in your tone, which may be related to some indignation (towny).

[clidd]

clidd is an angelread

hard pass on this take

And I think that you would have voted me after this post as Scum!G.C ^

[clidd]

Indignation, anger and etc can be faked, but in these scenarios they are usually made in an explicit way verbally to be visible, which was different in the case of GC, who tried to suppress and stay in the rational sphere.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Town
Isis seem towny I may have been pocketed by cat pics and need to reeval this slot later.
Clidd pointed out word's entrance seems pretty towny
Neutral
Norwee seems townish to me pedit geiger counter lol
Dannflor has paranoia over my slot which seems towny, but nothing else stands out to me yet.
Hayasaka also a slight tl on but it is weak so far.
Cthylla Not sure about ctulu creature alt yet.
Green crayons argued with clidd . also changed his answer on my question. Not sure what to make of just yet.
Scum
Word That entrance and lack of posts is not a good look. Word seems nervous in his posts.

[clidd]

More votes on Word, guys.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright clidd,
VOTE: Word

[Cthylla]

VOTE: Word

Pedit: you sniped me, this is probably L-1
let's be civilised here
no lolhammers

[NorwegianboyEE]

UNVOTE:

[Cthylla]

VOTE: Green Crayons

[Green Crayons]

I can't see why it would be invalid for me to take an AI impression of a mechanical post that looks like a filler to fill space

Green crayons argued with clidd .

also changed his answer on my question

. Not sure what to make of just yet.

I'm taking crazy pills because I said neither of these things.

[Green Crayons]

232 indirectly responds to my earlier Q that was ignored. it's a big meh for me.

[Green Crayons]

I can't see why it would be invalid for me to take an AI impression of a mechanical post that looks like a filler to fill space. By extension, this would also be hypothetically ignoring mechanical post spam, as I cannot draw AI conclusions from their presence (it doesn't work).

To be clear:

1. You SHOULDN'T draw AI thoughts from substantive recommendations about strategy. Nobody is going to give a bad strategy to hurt town--neither town (obviously) or scum are motivated to openly suggest bad strategies. If you start feeling like "oh Player X must be town because that's a good strategy," slap yourself and wake up. No AI.

2. You CAN get AI from whether a player focuses MOSTLY or ONLY on setup speculation or mechanics strategy, because like you said scum can use it as a crutch.

3. You CAN get AI from players who focus on whether other players are focusing on setup speculation or mechanics strategy, because it's a super easy "discussion about a discussion" that scum can use to look busy.