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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:40 pm

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In post 34, Bell wrote:Was thinking if your alignment in this game motivated you to read that game.
It seems like you tried to grasp their characteristics.
Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

Also, about vigis shooting early, that all depends on how productive we are today. If they are clueless, they should definetly not shoot anyone, but if they have reasonably high scum reads, I think it'd be reasonable for them to shoot.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:54 pm

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In post 48, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 47, Town looter wrote:
In post 45, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 43, Town looter wrote:Unless there is good evidence of lurking, no. Mis-elimming an active slot will generally tell us more than a mis-elim on an inactive slot. This obviously only applies to early game, activity will be a useful source of information later in the game because of how easy it is to fly below the radar.
Disagree low activity players are better for scum to have around.
Elimming a high activity slot just for info is not a good idea
That's really not what I said though, was it...
True, you said elimming higher activity slots gives more info which is 1 not necessarily true and 2 implies elimming high-content slots is not that bad which is harmful
This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.

And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.
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I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 39, Pickaxe Pete wrote:VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.
In post 42, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I see people.
Light townread on Pickaxe Pete because he actually tries to generate AI discussion and ignores the NAI stuff
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:08 pm

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But I already called norwee scum and i’m 1/1 on that guy.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:11 pm

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In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote: And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.
I'm here for you, bro.

VOTE: Mashmallow

Reason:
Claims previous discussion is NAI and has killed RVS on
page 2
when the majority of people haven't voted. Claims calling others scum is more useful but then doesn't do it themselves.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:15 pm

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^ page 3. I'm not a mathematician, okay. Numbers aren't my thing.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:50 pm

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VC1.02

The Room Where It Happens is a song composed by Lin Manuel Miranda and performed by the Original Broadway cast of the popular american history musical "Hamilton"


With 21 alive it takes 11 to eliminate



Bell: (5)
Fwesnid, Cat Scratch Fever, NorwegianBoyEE, Lapsa, Marshmallow Marshall
Marshmallow Marshall (1):
SJReaver
NorwegianBoyEE (1):
Bell
LicketyQuickety (1):
stan1ey
SJReaver (1):
Town looter
Rozyroz (1):
Pickaxe Pete

Not Voting:
LicketyQuickety, Littlefinger, Glitch, Rozyroz, Nero Cain, popopopopopopo, superbowl9, NoPowerOverMe, ralph217, 72offsuit, Ganelon

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-08-24 16:00:00)

Mod Notes:
  1. LicketyQuickety, ralph217, Rozyroz and Littlefinger have yet to confirm their role PMs. They have (expired on 2020-08-15 16:00:00) to confirm before I start seeking replacements.
  2. I'm counting votes without a bot so please let me know if I've made any mistakes
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:05 pm

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This vote count distribution makes my eye twitch.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:43 pm

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In post 35, Town looter wrote:
In post 34, Bell wrote:Was thinking if your alignment in this game motivated you to read that game.
It seems like you tried to grasp their characteristics.
So light SR on SJ?
This pings me. Enough for a serious vote.
Its like town looter is hoping for it to be a SR.

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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:45 pm

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In post 49, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 22, Bell wrote:It’s announcing.
Because scum say it is.
While town say it’s
"Scum syntax" arguments are heresy.

VOTE: Bell


From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town. My ears are open for the scream.
You sure about this? Was scumread by everyone as town when replaced into a slot that was widely townread
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:46 pm

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@Mod It should be 11 to lynch, I'm voting for Bell while Glitch is not, and superbowl is voting for Glitch.


In post 11, SJReaver wrote: This is my first game out of the newbie forum. Question: "The townvmafia numbers are confirmed to be 16v5," so this is definitely two factions? No worrying about more than one mafia or a serial killer?
Yes there are exactly 16 town, and exactly 5 mafia of one faction.

Full and odd-night vigilantes should almost always be shooting night 1. X-shot is pretty situational.

superbowl's two recent posts ping.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:47 pm

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viewtopic.php?f=11&t=83462
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:51 pm

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In post 60, Fwesnid wrote: Yes there are exactly 16 town, and exactly 5 mafia of one faction.

Full and odd-night vigilantes should almost always be shooting night 1. X-shot is pretty situational.

superbowl's two recent posts ping.
Actually answering my question. Thanks!

Why do the posts 'ping?' That's pretty ambiguous.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:52 pm

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Votecounts fixed! Thanks :)
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:56 pm

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In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.
This is the correct take
In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.
This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:15 pm

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In post 52, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 39, Pickaxe Pete wrote:VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.
In post 42, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I see people.
Light townread on Pickaxe Pete because he actually tries to generate AI discussion and ignores the NAI stuff
What about his posts looked like trying to generate AI discussion to you?

VOTE: Marshmallow
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:19 pm

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VOTE: stan1ey
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:23 pm

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In post 43, Town looter wrote:
In post 41, SJReaver wrote: Given the size of this group, how do you feel about eliminating low-activity slots?

Do you agree with Norwegian that vigs should shoot early?
Mis-elimming an active slot will generally tell us more than a mis-elim on an inactive slot.
VOTE: town looter
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 45, superbowl9 wrote:Disagree low activity players are better for scum to have around.
Are you open wolfing? vigs shooting low activity players is decent vig play, as you said keeping them around is better for scum since they make a good scapegoat if they are town.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:34 pm

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In post 49, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 22, Bell wrote:It’s announcing.
Because scum say it is.
While town say it’s
"Scum syntax" arguments are heresy.

VOTE: Bell


From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town. My ears are open for the scream.
Was this a serious vote?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:35 pm

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In post 69, ofrhz wrote:
In post 49, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 22, Bell wrote:It’s announcing.
Because scum say it is.
While town say it’s
"Scum syntax" arguments are heresy.

VOTE: Bell


From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town. My ears are open for the scream.
Was this a serious vote?
lol sorry
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:44 pm

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In post 14, stan1ey wrote:i forgot i had signed up to this, is there a record for longest sign up?
VOTE: LicketyQuickety
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:45 pm

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In post 54, SJReaver wrote:
In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote: And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.
I'm here for you, bro.

VOTE: Mashmallow

Reason:
Claims previous discussion is NAI and has killed RVS on
page 2
when the majority of people haven't voted. Claims calling others scum is more useful but then doesn't do it themselves.
Also lightly TRing this post.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:52 pm

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In post 71, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 14, stan1ey wrote:i forgot i had signed up to this, is there a record for longest sign up?
VOTE: LicketyQuickety
Townie opening tbh.
Since when don't you get all OMGUS when ppl vote you?
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:53 pm

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I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!

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