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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:08 pm

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In post 49, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 22, Bell wrote:It’s announcing.
Because scum say it is.
While town say it’s
"Scum syntax" arguments are heresy.

VOTE: Bell


From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town. My ears are open for the scream.

You seem a little townie, why are you voting me?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:10 pm

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I mean...not really in love with the explanation b/c it doesn't make
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:15 pm

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also, I'm needing at least 1 person for fantasy football.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:34 pm

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In post 80, NoPowerOverMe wrote:No one ever likes my openings.

I liked it, I totally saw what you saw in that quote.
But, asking for a friend, what did you see in that quote?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 54, SJReaver wrote:
In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote: And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.
I'm here for you, bro.

VOTE: Mashmallow

Reason:
Claims previous discussion is NAI and has killed RVS on
page 2
when the majority of people haven't voted. Claims calling others scum is more useful but then doesn't do it themselves.
Thank you :]

Why do you feel the need to put "reason" next to every vote you make?

"when the majority of people haven't voted" Right! And excluding Pickaxe, those who have voted didn't care about their vote anymore when the lurking discussion popped up. But this is now fixed, since you're voting me with a mimimal intent of pressuring lol, which is good.
I kinda called Bell out for his bad ways of reading people, if that counts, although I don't really think he's scum. Still put my vote on him, though, and gave a townread that I maintain on Pickaxe. We don't necessarily have to literally "call people scum" like I said, but at least to talk about their behavior and emit suspicions or show our trust towards them.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:36 pm

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In post 52, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 39, Pickaxe Pete wrote:VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.
In post 42, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I see people.
Light townread on Pickaxe Pete because he actually tries to generate AI discussion and ignores the NAI stuff
I thought this was sarcasm.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:48 pm

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In post 100, Bell wrote:
In post 49, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 22, Bell wrote:It’s announcing.
Because scum say it is.
While town say it’s
"Scum syntax" arguments are heresy.

VOTE: Bell


From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town. My ears are open for the scream.

You seem a little townie, why are you voting me?
Because it was the best thing to do at the time xD. You advocated for the scum syntax theory.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:49 pm

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In post 105, Bell wrote:
In post 52, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 39, Pickaxe Pete wrote:VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.
In post 42, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I see people.
Light townread on Pickaxe Pete because he actually tries to generate AI discussion and ignores the NAI stuff
I thought this was sarcasm.
You're probably not going to like it, but it was real :D. It doesn't mean I'm locking him as town, but it means I like him. Objections?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:52 pm

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Okay, how is Pete trying to generate AI discussion.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:54 pm

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In post 104, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
Why do you feel the need to put "reason" next to every vote you make?
The continued inability of others to read my mind.
In post 106, Marshmallow Marshall wrote: Because it was the best thing to do at the time xD. You advocated for the scum syntax theory.
He was making a joke. Not a good one, but it's Bell. You have to make allowances.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:57 pm

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In post 64, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:This all depends on the circumstances... if a high activity slot is scummy, you should create a massive discussion around it and potentially lynch it. You will get a relatively likely scum flip + a ton of info to work with. If noone really strikes anyone as super scummy, then lynching among the lurkers is a good idea.
This is the correct take
In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.
This isn't. Never understood why people can't just scroll past things theory if they don't want to read it?
It's not that I don't want to read it, I love game theory. I just don't love when it takes over the thread and that people begin to read eachother based on theory agreements or disagreements, because in my experience, that always leads to town getting lynched or scum getting a lot of easy town points.
In post 65, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 52, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 39, Pickaxe Pete wrote:VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.
In post 42, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I see people.
Light townread on Pickaxe Pete because he actually tries to generate AI discussion and ignores the NAI stuff
What about his posts looked like trying to generate AI discussion to you?

VOTE: Marshmallow
Voting with a line meant to be replied to, and not taking part to the discussion about theory that took over the thread for some posts. Not saying his posts are legendary, but they are still better than Superbowl's, for example. :)
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:59 pm

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In post 109, SJReaver wrote:
In post 104, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
Why do you feel the need to put "reason" next to every vote you make?
The continued inability of others to read my mind.
In post 106, Marshmallow Marshall wrote: Because it was the best thing to do at the time xD. You advocated for the scum syntax theory.
He was making a joke. Not a good one, but it's Bell. You have to make allowances.
Fair.

Mhmm, I don't actually think he's scum, mind you. I just don't think
anyone
is scum at the moment. The point was to spark discussion that wasn't: "let's lynch high activity slots!" "No let's not!" "But let's do it anyway!" "No, lynch lurkers!" "Maybe?". Mission complete! And now that we're in more meaningful discussion, I think I'd like to keep it here just to see where it goes.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:01 pm

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You’re looking into the void and letting your brain come up with explanations with no evidence behind them.
He voted somebody who hasn't Replied to their role pm yet.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:01 pm

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In post 70, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 69, ofrhz wrote:
In post 49, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 22, Bell wrote:It’s announcing.
Because scum say it is.
While town say it’s
"Scum syntax" arguments are heresy.

VOTE: Bell


From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town. My ears are open for the scream.
Was this a serious vote?
lol sorry
Sorry for what? I feel dumb for being clueless in front of this two-word post lol
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:02 pm

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You should probably investigate to find evidence for your speculations, or better yet, go in with an open mind and use the evidence to form AI reads.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:03 pm

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In post 112, Bell wrote:You’re looking into the void and letting your brain come up with explanations with no evidence behind them.
He voted somebody who hasn't Replied to their role pm yet.
We shall see. I never said this read was anything strong. I just like the intent I see behind his simple posts. I could be wrong, of course. But I could also be right. Also note that "finding
evidence
" at this stage of the game is more or less impossible. We CREATE evidence right now.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:07 pm

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How much experience do you have in mafia Marshall?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:15 pm

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In post 31, SJReaver wrote:
In post 26, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I got a light TR on SJReaver for his post pointing out he read my scumgame and noted he believes i'm skilled at playing as scum. It doesn't seem like something scum!him would just casually put out there if it wasn't a real worry for him.
I did notice a serious lack of engagement from you at points. You strike me as someone who likes a mental challenge and when you're allowed to coast as scum, you mentally check out. When the pinch is on, you suddenly become more active.

That you've made an appearance and are reading people this early suggests the basic set up of the game (find the bad guys) is helping to motivate you.

As days pass, I hope you remain that way.
Activity tell eh.
Well i won’t disagree with you. I tend to lose interest sometimes if the game loses energy and i’m scum. (Because then i see no point in re-energizing it)
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:20 pm

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In post 49, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town.
I’M TOWN!
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:23 pm

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In post 44, Bell wrote:In general, unless you’re really, really, really sure you know that player is scum you don’t shoot n1.
We need early vig shoots because right now we’re fighting the wagon dynamics almost more than scum itself. I played in a large 50 game before and we needed 26 votes to get a lynch in D1. Do you have any idea how much of a pain in the ass it is to convince 26 people to lynch a player?
We need to lower the player pool ASAP, and hopefully by eliminating scum along the way.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:25 pm

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In post 110, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 65, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 52, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 39, Pickaxe Pete wrote:VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.
In post 42, Pickaxe Pete wrote:I see people.
Light townread on Pickaxe Pete because he actually tries to generate AI discussion and ignores the NAI stuff
What about his posts looked like trying to generate AI discussion to you?

VOTE: Marshmallow
Voting with a line meant to be replied to
, and not taking part to the discussion about theory that took over the thread for some posts. Not saying his posts are legendary, but they are still better than Superbowl's, for example. :)
I don't follow. Which line by Pickaxe Pete warranted a response...? Like aside from you who quoted his posts to give him a townlean, no one even bothered to respond to Pete's posts.

This feels like a contrived read. More votes on Marshmallow plz n ty.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:25 pm

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In post 50, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.
This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:26 pm

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So far, Bell sounds like town!Bell. I expect a wagon on him Day 2 because he tosses out reads with complete confidence but when asked why, simply says 'I just know.'

In post 117, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Activity tell eh.
Well i won’t disagree with you. I tend to lose interest sometimes if the game loses energy and i’m scum. (Because then i see no point in re-energizing it)
In my first game, I argued that someone was mafia because they used emotes. Even if this is a weak observation, it's a step up.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:26 pm

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In post 113, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 70, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 69, ofrhz wrote: Was this a serious vote?
lol sorry
Sorry for what? I feel dumb for being clueless in front of this two-word post lol
I altslipped
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:27 pm

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Plz cat scratch I have standards. I can’t just vote the lowest hanging fruit.
I have a non existent reputation to uphold

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