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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:22 am

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Yes that was a hedge. Talk about it and I'll vote you k? I rather just have a bit of help with my thoughts of course
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:30 am

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This game would be so easy if I was scum but as town I have to seriously factor in other peoples opinions and it's such a yawnfest! Okay okay question time

@Buldge: Can you go into a little bit more detail on Klick? I've seen your wall but I can't say I am sold

@Notsci: We both think Bella is scum? Wonderful! What's your reasoning hm? Cause I know it doesn't match up to my own.

@Klick/Bella Do you distrust each other at all or do you think it's 1 in each other pair? Who's that person and why.

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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:37 am

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It’s literally just PoE.

I’m townreading klick and bulge and there can only be one in your lovers so that means bella.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:39 am

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So have you tried to get your own partner off Klick or tried to understand the reasoning behind it? Because they seem pretty confident in it.
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:47 am

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I asked him to explain it, yes.

It’s hard to understand when the case on klick was purely about preflip associatives with someone I know is town.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:50 am

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Your answer is weak but reasonable I suppose. What's your reasons for townreading Klick?
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:24 am

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Short version is I don’t think this is how klick would place me if he was scum. I think he’d be much more likely to push me and make me more worried about defending myself than reading him.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:38 am

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Meta? That isn't very helpful. I guess my line of questions for you are done. Thanks
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:56 am

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In post 372, Klick wrote:
In post 346, The Bulge wrote:
In post 320, Klick wrote:
In post 278, The Bulge wrote:As for Klick/Bella, imo a RL couple is far more susceptible to wifom when it comes to reading each other
That's just like, your opinion man.
I know Bella really well. We talk a lot of Mafia theory and whatnot. This fundamentally doesn't feel like how she'd approach this game as scum.
In post 321, Klick wrote:And before you go 'well wouldn't she know that and play to that?'
My honest opinion is that she wouldn't care enough about this individual game of Mafia to adjust her mindset seamlessly to her town meta (and I have doubts about whether she could actually change her play to that degree). She has a level of not caring that much that I think comes from town-Bella every time.
ok but I'm obviously talking about the other way around here so the "before you go" bit feels ultra mega fake
Still seems very relevant to the game at large considering the fact that notty/Maria both have milquetoast scumreads on Bella at this point
idk the "before you go" felt very directed at me
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In post 322, Klick wrote:
In post 280, The Bulge wrote:klick's bizarre bulge/ari theory
So you've called this bizarre twice now, but I haven't heard why.
It's bizarre that you dropped that read out of your pant leg and are now asking me to explain it to you.
It made plenty of sense in the context of what Ari was doing; he had a townread on both players in your pair that stayed consistent all day. It's bizarre to me that you still haven't said why it was 'bizarre' in the first place. ;)
fair enough, I was looking at it only from the other angle, ie my constant badgering. Which I stand by being by far the more notable interaction between myself and ari. So I am still questioning why you presented the read as if it were clear as day.
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In post 327, Klick wrote:
In post 283, Aristophanes wrote:was also really bugged by the hop off of and back onto my wagon by Klick but I had entirely forgotten my eyebrow raise when reading that until Bulge brought it back up here.
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ok but why is it scummy
why the initial unvote?
I was considering moving my vote over to you/notty, because I didn't feel good about you and some things notty was starting to say weren't vibing with how I was feeling at all. But then notty's 221 felt really genuine and I decided it wasn't worth pushing on a gut scumread of just you in the pair over getting out two fairly likely scum in Auro/Ari.

I'll again ask, why was it scummy
it's the momentum. your exchange with ns felt rehearsed like you didn't care at all about his answer. and afterwards, it was as if you had never stopped pushing auro or ari or whoever you were claiming was the maf it's a little extremely hard to keep track of your read on that pair.


also yak yak yak unflipped associatives but worth noting that notscience was notvoting at the time of klick's "I'm going to bed and can't be held responsible for whoever might hammer!!!" post where he revoted. The reason I requested no hammer like I did in was because I didn't want to tell ns directly in our pt to not hammer.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:57 am

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In post 378, MariaR wrote:So have you tried to get your own partner off Klick or tried to understand the reasoning behind it? Because they seem pretty confident in it.
what's the point if ns is scumreading bella?
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:43 am

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Has ns explained why he is scum-reading me? Coz it just feels kinda convenient.


Maria hasn't interacted in good faith with me once. I think we need to flip that slot, but it feels like it's going to be uphill work.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:40 pm

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In post 384, The Bulge wrote:
In post 378, MariaR wrote:So have you tried to get your own partner off Klick or tried to understand the reasoning behind it? Because they seem pretty confident in it.
what's the point if ns is scumreading bella?
You don’t see the merit in scum reading the other half that your partner isn’t?
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:45 pm

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I don't see merit in detracting me from klick if one or both are town
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:47 pm

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In post 385, Bellaphant wrote:Has ns explained why he is scum-reading me? Coz it just feels kinda convenient.


Maria hasn't interacted in good faith with me once. I think we need to flip that slot, but it feels like it's going to be uphill work.
It’s PoE

I really don’t think Bulge is scum and I don’t think Klick is scum so you’re kinda just the last of the four of us.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:48 pm

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Would you like me to explain Buldge? I don't know if you'll like the answer though
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:49 pm

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Bulge I don’t even see that post you’re talking about with going to bed and revoting
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:49 pm

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Also I have one more question for anyone to answer: Why do you think I'm voting Klick? Hint: The answer isn't obvious.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:59 pm

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Your mallets in the repair store?

Because they’re the only pair mutually townreading I’m assuming?
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:04 pm

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In case that was unclear (I’m at work and skimming)

I think because every other pair has been discordant all game it’s weird their pair haven’t been
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:14 pm

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In post 392, notscience wrote:Your mallets in the repair store?

Because they’re the only pair mutually townreading I’m assuming?
Wrong! It's because I think my partner is scum and I'm doing the most optimal play given that information.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:15 pm

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If you play today thinking your partner is scum you just need to vote the pair you think is most likely to have there partner in it. If you're right about them being scum the chances of hitting the partner is higher than normal. If you're wrong and your partner is town well you still hit scum regardless. It's a win win.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:16 pm

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So you’re both scumreading each other now? Why do you think he’s scum?

Pedit
I need to think on that more.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:23 pm

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Umd went from null to townreading me after I called him out. An awful turn if you ask me. I have more reasons to suspect he's scum but I'll tell you what I told him:

His patterns are what I would expect scum to have plus some of the stuff he's posted in the pt seems more like he's trying to appeal to me more than having those thoughts.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:23 pm

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Now everyone grab your mallet and bonk Klick/Bella on the head!
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:46 pm

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No i went from gated paranoia to just throwing my hands up and making assumptions in order to get you to talk to me more
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