Large Normal 229 | Manatee's Musical Mafia | Game Over

[NorwegianboyEE]

@marshall, you either misunderstood or strawmanned my opinion on you. I was saying that you’re goofy as both alignments. Also you’ve been in enough games here to adjust to the meta here, so that excuse doesn’t work at all.

What does that even mean? What about them is "goofy"?

[Bell]

People have absolutely said what i’m About to say better. But he’s thinking laterally, but it’s all town perspective.

[Bell]

Norwe, are you maf.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

What do you mean by "thinking laterally"? What has he done that is unlikely to come from scum?

[Bell]

“the solving of problems by an indirect and creative approach, typically through viewing the problem in a new and unusual light.“-google.

Just read him again.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

CSF because he said it was staged why would SvT stage an argument

I think there are two interpretations of what stanley was trying to convey in 165, and I'll let him clarify which one. But I didn't think stanley was trying to say that the argument was pre-planned, so much as the argument developed weirdly.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

“the solving of problems by an indirect and creative approach, typically through viewing the problem in a new and unusual light.“-google.

Just read him again.

yeah you're going to have to bring concrete examples, I have read his ISO many times

[Town looter]

I read Nero and Bell as strong town.

I want to town read Glitch, but I'm lazy and for some reason when I read his posts, my eyes start to glaze over. I'll give him light town points and hope someone else points out if he's scummy.

72, Townlooter, Cat Scratch, and superbowl are all light town reads as well.

I expect more people to read 72 as scum the more he posts, but I went through a newbie game where he was miseliminated, and tends to be all over the place.

Random question, but do you feel like you have learned and improved since our last foray together? I feel like you have, so follow up question is what are your new, er, skills (for lack of a better term/phrase)?

[Bell]

“the solving of problems by an indirect and creative approach, typically through viewing the problem in a new and unusual light.“-google.

Just read him again.

yeah you're going to have to bring concrete examples, I have read his ISO many times

I think you’re town.
Eh, I could be wrong. He just seems fearless. And he says he’s trying to interact with people and that’s what he’s doing.

[Town looter]

*snip*
yeah you're going to have to bring concrete examples, I have read his ISO many times

I think you’re town.
*snip*

Yep, I agree, assuming she maintains similar meta between alts

[Bell]

Just don’t stop thinking about him.
Kitty had a rly good d1 and the mena troll taught me that you should never really stop questioning your reads(even though I was right cough*)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwe, are you maf.

Sometimes i can't tell myself.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

The difference in a 4 vote wagon and a 5 vote wagon in this game is literally so miniscule that it makes no difference, especially when one of those votes is Lapsa. The MM wagon will continue to die down until MM comes back on and responds to the investigation kicked off by CSF and reminded by me in my post above. If his response is shitty then I'm all for building a serious wagon then. But let's not pretend that 3 votes + Lapsa is a remarkable wagon opportunity to pass up. It's not.

I love a good, strong wagon. The MM wagon is not one as it stands and my vote remains more useful on you.

So far today I'll be cool with serious wagons forming on Nero, MM depending on response, or Norway. I won't be voting Superbowl or NPOM as they are my highest TRs, CSF is almost up to that same peak tier.

These reads are big oof. Not a fan of the wagon momentum explanation either

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I don't follow. Which line by Pickaxe Pete warranted a response...? Like aside from you who quoted his posts to give him a townlean, no one even bothered to respond to Pete's posts.

This feels like a contrived read. More votes on Marshmallow plz n ty.

"One balloon for you" is usually the kind of thing you say when you want to engage RVS-style conversation with a player.

He voted someone who hadn't picked up their role pm

Also, "contrived read"... it isn't because I give the weak reads I have to start discussion that I'm giving "contrived" reads. This is going to read as more haughty than it should, but I sadly don't see a better way to word it, sorry in advance: you should be thanking me for starting meaningful discussion on people's behavior (in this very case, mine) instead of blaming me for giving a weak read in the first hours of D1 and calling it "contrived".

That being said, I can understand the thought process town!Cat would be going through here, and give some town points to them (more meaningful town points than those I gave to Pickaxe early on).
oh no maybe that's "contrived" too

and final disclaimer, this is not meant to be mean lol, I just find your conception of how people should play quite restrictive.

Weak =/= contrived.

Weak reads are fine as something to get the ball rolling.

Your read is both weak and contrived. It's hard to believe town would look at Pete's posts critically and be like "yeah this is going to be the townlean read that I'm going to throw out"

[Cat Scratch Fever]

438 and 495 ring townie from town looter

[Pickaxe Pete]

thats fine, only makes you look like a piece of shit.

Please no.

[superbowl9]

CSF because he said it was staged why would SvT stage an argument

I think there are two interpretations of what stanley was trying to convey in 165, and I'll let him clarify which one. But I didn't think stanley was trying to say that the argument was pre-planned, so much as the argument developed weirdly.

Really getting tired of ppl trying to use general contexts to say that what stanley said made sense. If they’re talking about the argument being staged, that makes no sense. If they’re talking about the argument being a little bit of a stretch/over nothing, we’re trying to escape RVS so why would you say that unless you’re trying to supress AI content??

[NoPowerOverMe]

Wondering why looter voted Norway then advocated nero to lay off him.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

CSF because he said it was staged why would SvT stage an argument

I think there are two interpretations of what stanley was trying to convey in 165, and I'll let him clarify which one. But I didn't think stanley was trying to say that the argument was pre-planned, so much as the argument developed weirdly.

Really getting tired of ppl trying to use general contexts to say that what stanley said made sense. If they’re talking about the argument being staged, that makes no sense. If they’re talking about the argument being a little bit of a stretch/over nothing, we’re trying to escape RVS so why would you say that unless you’re trying to supress AI content??

Some people just say what's on their mind

Don't see how it suppresses AI content

[NoPowerOverMe]

Mafia rarely "say what's on their mind"

[stan1ey]

Because why would SvT fake an argument

Every argument scum make is forced because they are having to pretend to be scumhunting? Why is so hard to understand

[superbowl9]

Some people just say what's on their mind

Don't see how it suppresses AI content

This is what I'm saying like you're playing mafia. If you think the argument is kind of forced you should next be thinking why that argument seems forced. Oh we are transitioning from RVS? Makes sense. Looks like I won't pointlessly post that this argument seems forced which could be interpreted as me shading this as scummy.

That's the thought process I would expect. You seem like you are just trying to shoehorn in good reasoning for this poor statement

[superbowl9]

Because why would SvT fake an argument

Every argument scum make is forced because they are having to pretend to be scumhunting? Why is so hard to understand

This is semantic tap dancing, you were not accusing either of us of fake scumhunting there

[superbowl9]

Unless you were which makes your statement even worse

[stan1ey]

It doesn't make sense from any!stanley which is why we all realize he can't hold that position, so he backed off it. Because why would SvT fake an argument and why would SvS posture on pg 5 in a large and draw the shitstorm of attention we've gotten

Sure i don’t mind going back to this.
VOTE: Stan1ey

I originally didnt think it was SvS (despite what superbowl keeps trying to misrep me as saying) but the fact NBEE is just going along with his nonsense makes me think it actually was