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Post Post #3550 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:14 pm

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VOTE: Vecna

I am not wanting to do Alchemist because there's no convincing case on Alchemist. Galron feels pretty town. I feel like the best lynches are Vecna and Elsa right now. I don't buy two shouty wrong people drowning out the thread.
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Post Post #3551 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:48 pm

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What about Galron feels town?
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Post Post #3552 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:03 pm

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just one of those games
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Post Post #3553 (ISO) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:04 pm

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Not gonna fight you Titus. Itll just make the problem worse.

But youre wrong. But do what u gotta do
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Post Post #3554 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:30 am

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In post 1535, Galron wrote:I guess this is better than no lynch, but I really haven't had the time to get comfortable yet.

VOTE: Icerint
In post 1555, Galron wrote:VOTE: Lavender

Let's make it interesting.
In post 1268, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Gobble
In post 1563, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Lavender

Time's running out.
Galron and Elsa both have made votes that were not explained. These quotes above are examples and I'm asking here what made you guys vote these players since they were not explained. I see that you both have been hopping on wagons on day 1, day 2, and day 3.
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Post Post #3555 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:53 am

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I don't know your gimmick and your alleged true claim is super sketch.

It's scant on details
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Post Post #3556 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:58 am

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Please deliver credible and FINAL details of your claim
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Post Post #3557 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:35 am

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Paranoid Gun Owner. It's on the tin. I'm the variant that always alerts, so I mentioned Compulsive earlier to explain it.
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Post Post #3558 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:55 am

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The thing is with this game, there's not many scum left so it's hard to find the last one. I feel Galron is town for the way he stood up to me. I feel Alch isn't group scum based on his play. The rest I am like ok whatever. I don't have a strong preference. Obviously we aren't doing Adorable but I don't have a TR there either.
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Post Post #3559 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:35 am

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well, if you dont lynch alch you get to pick two in the worst case scenario.

Youre going to have to narrow it down.
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Post Post #3560 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:38 am

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Also, DGB, remember that scum were all told in their role pm that there was a Paula out there that -might- be helpfull to their cause.

Its quite likely they believed that alch had the paula flavour, and might have a joint wincon with scum or w/e or a mechanism to scumside.

That could also strongly influence them to try and save the slot.
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Post Post #3561 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 3560, Vecna wrote:Also, DGB, remember that scum were all told in their role pm that there was a Paula out there that -might- be helpfull to their cause.

Its quite likely they believed that alch had the paula flavour, and might have a joint wincon with scum or w/e or a mechanism to scumside.

That could also strongly influence them to try and save the slot.
I’ve brought this up twice and she still wants to tunnel.
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Post Post #3562 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:23 am

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not in regards to it literally being in their role pm that a paula is out there, no?
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Post Post #3563 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:38 am

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In post 3558, Titus wrote:I feel Galron is town for the way he stood up to me.
Lynx? I just skimmed his ISO and I didn't see much interaction between the two of you at all, and I frankly can't remember Galron standing up to anyone on anything. The closest would be something like .
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Post Post #3564 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 am

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In post 3562, Vecna wrote:not in regards to it literally being in their role pm that a paula is out there, no?
I didn’t directly cite that, no. I assumed everyone was aware of that part of the role PMs.
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Post Post #3565 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:44 am

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You know what they say about assumptions.

They're necessary for mathematical proofs.
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Post Post #3566 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:56 am

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In post 3560, Vecna wrote:Also, DGB, remember that scum were all told in their role pm that there was a Paula out there that -might- be helpfull to their cause.

Its quite likely they believed that alch had the paula flavour, and might have a joint wincon with scum or w/e or a mechanism to scumside.

That could also strongly influence them to try and save the slot.

Could be but we can't let him live any longer.
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Post Post #3567 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:59 am

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In post 3557, Elsa Jay wrote:Paranoid Gun Owner. It's on the tin. I'm the variant that always alerts, so I mentioned Compulsive earlier to explain it.
I am not at my desk, can you name players that voiced increased suspicion of you after that claim?
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Post Post #3568 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:01 am

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PGO is yet another role that can result in townies getting NK'd
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Post Post #3569 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:02 am

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Maybe balance experts can weigh in.
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Post Post #3570 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:01 am

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In post 3535, Bingle wrote:
Spoiler: Representative Galron Votes
In post 3364, Galron wrote:VOTE: Adorable
In post 3282, Galron wrote:VOTE: Froppy

E-1
In post 3288, Galron wrote:UNVOTE:
In post 2961, Galron wrote:VOTE: TLich
In post 2934, Galron wrote:UNVOTE:
In post 2891, Galron wrote:VOTE: TLich
In post 2832, Galron wrote:I'm back here.

VOTE: Elsa

Spoiler:
In post 2506, Galron wrote:
In post 2503, Logicalicaltist wrote:Also isn’t Thun 1 Vote away from hammer.
If so I’d like to say the following:
Anyone who Quick hammers Thun is scum claiming.
VOTE: thun


Note the pattern: Easy naked votes with little to no reasoning cast when the thread consensus is clear. Slinky unvotes at possibly the most scum beneficial times (he's got a particularly waffly unvote in light of TL's claim, and then a naked hammer when it became clear that TL was dying anyway). He came into the thread voting heavily suspected Adorable today with no reasoning, despite the way the EoD played out and the way Adorable can potentially selfconfirm. If you need further explanation of why these votes are bad, feel free to let me know, but I think they speak for themselves in the absence of having said anything in the first place.
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Post Post #3571 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:03 am

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The formatting on that post screws up my reply so here's a separate post.

I explained here:
In post 3424, Galron wrote:
In post 2994, Logicalicaltist wrote:I tracked Thun they visited Chkflip.
This is the reason for my vote on Adorable. Adorable, are you admitting that your slot vigged chkflip? Because that transition from Thun to you sure didn't look like it. And, again, Almost50 being a traitor and being the scum kill doesn't make any sense to me. I can't believe that the scum team wouldn't have picked up that he was the traitor.

And here we are with another night passed, and Elsa/Alchemist haven't given us anything and still aren't sorted.
vote on Froppy was taking an E-2 wagon to E-1 to put pressure on it because I was scum reading that slot and was pretty certain there was a busser on it. I wanted to see if someone would pop loose, and someone did, Bingle, and I think you'll see that I unvoted right after Bingle did because I learned something I had thought. And, as I had said prior to that, I wanted Froppy to catch up.

Yes, is my unvote on Froppy that followed Bingle's unvote.

I'm pretty sure was the hammer on TLich. That wagon I had taken to E-2, then he claimed Bookie either right before or right after I made that vote. After thinking about that claim (and he said he received a vig shot if correct), it made sense -- I had never heard of the Bookie role before -- that a Bookie would get paid off with a vig (nice little play on words by whomever dreamed that one up). While I was thinking about that, someone was pushing me to revote, DGB I think, and chkflp actually did take the wagon back to E-1, and I made the decision that it could very well be a scum Bookie, so I hammered.

is where I unvoted my E-1 vote on TLich as described above.

was the E-1 vote on TLich, and I explained in the very next post why I voted him:
In post 2892, Galron wrote:Just keep going in circles.
And keep in mind the time lapse during the TLich votes -- we were trucking at a good clip -- I think just a couple of hours passed dicking around with TLich's claim.

take a look at this context:
In post 2829, DrippingGoofball wrote:It's obvious EJ is scum... as is LogicalAlt.
In post 2831, Galron wrote:
In post 2829, DrippingGoofball wrote:It's obvious EJ is scum... as is LogicalAlt.
Logical bussing Elsa?
In post 2832, Galron wrote:I'm back here.

VOTE: Elsa

Spoiler:
In post 2834, DrippingGoofball wrote:I mean, why wouldn't scum bus?
Here's me thinking two posts before I unvoted TLich, as I noted above:
In post 2931, Galron wrote:It makes sense for a bookie to earn a vig.

pedit: not a powerful role though
was me making a point that Logicalisticist couldn't count. It wasn't the only time he pulled that either. I'm not sure if that was scum him doing it or IRL him doing it, but I thought it needed to be pointed out:
In post 2506, Galron wrote:
In post 2503, Logicalicaltist wrote:Also isn’t Thun 1 Vote away from hammer.
If so I’d like to say the following:
Anyone who Quick hammers Thun is scum claiming.
VOTE: thun
In post 2507, Galron wrote:Count.
In post 2508, chkflip wrote:
In post 2503, Logicalicaltist wrote:Also isn’t Thun 1 Vote away from hammer.
If so I’d like to say the following:
Anyone who Quick hammers Thun is scum claiming.
Not even close, bud.

Most of the wagon dissipated.

The wagon has not been easy all fucking phase.

Everything you're saying is absolute bullshit.

So Bingle, your points about my making easy naked votes when the thread consensus was clear and slinky unvotes at possibly the most scum beneficial times kinda don't hold up. The first hold up if you're not reading for context or for comprehension, I suppose. I don't know why you'd leave my posts surrounding my votes out. As far as the slinky unvotes at scum-beneficial moments, maybe take another shot at that one. I unvoted TLich like you said, but then I turned right around and hammered him. Are you saying my unvote on Froppy was beneficial to scum? I don't think that's what you're saying. If you want to argue about my vote on Adorable, I guess we can do that.

I'll take you up on this bit here:

"If you need further explanation of why these votes are bad, feel free to let me know, but I think they speak for themselves in the absence of having said anything in the first place."

Do you want to waste your time on that?
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Post Post #3572 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:13 am

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That one Bingle post is so borked. Everyone understands 3570 is just a quote of Bingle's post, right?
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Post Post #3573 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:22 am

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In post 3554, Adorable wrote:
In post 1535, Galron wrote:I guess this is better than no lynch, but I really haven't had the time to get comfortable yet.

VOTE: Icerint
In post 1555, Galron wrote:VOTE: Lavender

Let's make it interesting.
In post 1268, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Gobble
In post 1563, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Lavender

Time's running out.
Galron and Elsa both have made votes that were not explained. These quotes above are examples and I'm asking here what made you guys vote these players since they were not explained. I see that you both have been hopping on wagons on day 1, day 2, and day 3.
I'm going to kind of defend Elsa here I guess without looking at the actual votes and say that this is lame. Day 1 of a large is a free for all. No one knows anything for sure except their own role. I'm pretty sure when I repped in we were under deadline pressure, and Iecerint and Lavender both were decent wagons, although wrong. I unvoted Iecerint to vote Lavender to tie them up if I recall correctly. Both wagons were wrong. That means, what, exactly?
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Post Post #3574 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:31 am

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In post 3573, Galron wrote:
In post 3554, Adorable wrote:
In post 1535, Galron wrote:I guess this is better than no lynch, but I really haven't had the time to get comfortable yet.

VOTE: Icerint
In post 1555, Galron wrote:VOTE: Lavender

Let's make it interesting.
In post 1268, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Gobble
In post 1563, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Lavender

Time's running out.
Galron and Elsa both have made votes that were not explained. These quotes above are examples and I'm asking here what made you guys vote these players since they were not explained. I see that you both have been hopping on wagons on day 1, day 2, and day 3.
I'm going to kind of defend Elsa here I guess without looking at the actual votes and say that this is lame. Day 1 of a large is a free for all. No one knows anything for sure except their own role. I'm pretty sure when I repped in we were under deadline pressure, and Iecerint and Lavender both were decent wagons, although wrong. I unvoted Iecerint to vote Lavender to tie them up if I recall correctly. Both wagons were wrong. That means, what, exactly?
I don't think I understand what this is trying to say or prove

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