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[NorwegianboyEE]

He makes short comments and statements with his quote, but the read development feels natural. And it’s a coherent progression that’s hard to fake for scum.
Granted it’s just one post, but nothing that pinged me negatively so far.

[Bell]

You weren’t bussing though. you immediately called him arrogant on entry and that’s not what bros do. You’re probably still right.

I don’t particularly mind which reads you give me, whoever catches your eye that you haven’t mentioned I guess.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I gave a reads list a few pages ago. Things haven't changed much. There are a lot of players I haven't played with and I need to see more from them to get an idea of what's going on with them. My approach is to interact with the players I know and go from there.

[Bell]

You should probably interact with everyone. But aight.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I do in good time. For example, I'm interacting with you and I haven't played with you before.

[Town looter]

Urgh, you basterds are going to make me read glitches walls again aren’t you...

you don't

have

to. What makes you feel like you need to reread him just b/c there's a wagon on him?

Because this game needs 11 to eliminate. That's a lotta people. So rather than rely on my fairly light read on Glitch, I want to see if I can see what you guys are seeing, and potentially contribute to the wagon/pressure. Or maybe confirm my read and argue against the wagon.

Alternative is sitting on my TR and be one of the multitude who are not doing a lot in the background (lurkers, VLA'rs, folks with stronger SRs elsewhere, etc.).

The difference, I think, between the former and the latter is the latter is more likely to result in a mis-elimination.

[Bell]

^townie perspective.

[Town looter]

Blergh, I am still not seeing it (it being Scum!Glitch).

Only thing I picked up from a quick ISO (low effort for sure, I had a good dose of CBF) is that his case on Nero had a pretty shitty start and evolved into OMGUS. While at the same time, maintaining a pretty logical argument about maintaining contrasting SRs on Nero and Norwegian.

Still null for me.

Hiraki, keen to hear where you finally land on Glitch once you have fully caught up. BoP coming your way buddy.

[ManateeDude]

Prodding SJReaver

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Hello, I exist. More catch-up to do, it seems.

Had a feeling the MM omgus was coming if I waited long enough

I think MM's spew is kinda IIoAy

Not in the traditional way but more in the just put out a bunch of basic level argumentation thats really low hanging fruit type of way if you get me - not saying it's AI yet

Discrediting 2 pages of my content without any quotes and labelling them as IIoA and OMGUS? Nice

Yeah your 2 pages are just basic information and not really things that are pushy/pushable, hence why it's IIoA.

I know you want me to go point by point through so you can undermine my position, but that literally makes no sense because I'm saying you've been cluttering the thread with basic info. Why would I respond to/elaborate upon that basic info lol?

Also dude you have literally OMGUSed everyone who has slighted you. Idk why you view this as a "discredit" because (at least imo) OMGUS is pretty NAI in most cases but it's just funny to point out when you OMGUS scumread someone then say they're OMGUSing.

Very convenient for you lol, you get to not explain your reads!

I think that's what you wanted, hm? Great discredit again, btw. I'd like you to at least back it up A BIT with some quotes, if you don't mind.

[Glitch]

Nero, where can you see that Glitch is pushing your/ Norwegian's lynch, rather than sorting you?

prob the post that says he'll wagon either of us.

So far today I'll be cool with serious wagons forming on Nero, MM depending on response, or Norway.

This is why you're scum. You are working so hard to twist my statements and turn them into something that you would clearly understand if you were town genuinely seeking a scum elimination. You quote what I've said and then add your own words or interpretations, representing what I said as something it is not. But you do so in small steps, not giant, huge, sweeping steps. Big misreps would be seen straight through. But small misreps... you keep pulling them off and acting like I've said things that I haven't.

Flake asked you where I pushed for your lynch rather than sorting you. You quoted where I said I would be cool with wagoning you and Norway in response to that question. Please tell me a player with over 36,000 posts on this website understands the difference between supporting a wagon and supporting a lynch. They are not the same,

especially

not in a large when a wagon isn't even as strong as it would be in a smaller game because it is so much harder to get large, actually threatening wagons with 21 players.

You are twisting my words and misrepresenting what I have said to others in an effort to throw shade at me for something I never said. If you would stop arguing against me for things I didn't say, and start arguing with things I actually said, then maybe we could get somewhere. But I'm at a loss. I'm sorry if I'm too much of a noob for you and I try to take advice from the wiki on how to play. We can't all be 36,000+ post pros. I get voted off a lot for being a noob and so following strategy guides is my attempt at trying to get better. If you're going to just belittle me for trying to improve my play, can you at least do it without being condescending?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Titus replaces Ganelon, Almost50 replaces popopo etc
VC incoming thank you guys for your patience

Nice, so one of the reasons for which I joined a large instead of a mini just went away

Can someone tell me what the Glitch train is about, by the way? I don't really get it.

[Glitch]

In post 314, superbowl9 wrote:
Also dude naked voting someone and saying aha you reacted is the worst possible reaction test of all time

Not what happened and also wrong.

How is this not what happened?

[Fwesnid]

I can't tell if I'm scumreading Ralph or if I'm just annoyed that I need someone to translate his posts for me to understand them.

I feel like you are flying below the radar right now. Feel like throwing some content into the mix?

Is 'not really' a valid answer?
I'm townreading both MM and glitch but not to the point to be able to make a strong case for either.

Your avi looks like something a new web designer would do and think is a good background.

That's basically what happened, I then cropped it to avatar size.

I can't tell if I'm scumreading Ralph or if I'm just annoyed that I need someone to translate his posts for me to understand them.

How are you scumreading someone with no content who posts gibberish

It looks like scummy gibberish?

Spoiler: ralph

i get feelin whys every one tslking

I generally consider telling people to post less and/or asking why people are talking to not be a town mindset.

Bell jump on wagon when heard it was is"nt your let him clami ? other wise it counts as a quick hammer

This looks like scummy gibberish to me, not much of a way to describe it.

I mean, if you know/think a pairing is impossible/unlikely to be S/S you don't push both, you pick on or the other. Him not doing that only serves to widen his pool.

like if he said "Nero is scum so thus norway is town" then I'm his sole mislynch opportunity. But by being unwilling to make a call like that now he has 2 mislynch opportunities.

If he makes a 'rushed' call he can then flip it when he's wrong on the one and still go for a second mislynch.

[ralph217]

is thire a pr claim?

[ralph217]

so i cant just say fwensid is scum since omgus . but other wise i wouldn't be here so i think he is expreee to lynch me . why scummy gibberish fwesnid?

[ralph217]

lets wait for titus to wigh in

[Titus]

lets wait for titus to wigh in

Hi new person. I don't read on subbing in. What did you want me to look out for?

[Bell]

You don't?

[Bell]

Even if there's flips? That's hardcore.

[Titus]

Even if there's flips? That's hardcore.

Especially when there's flips. I avoid groupthink that way. If town is lynching scum, best not to interfere. If town is not lynching scum, a new theory might help.

I do look at VCs though and if there's relevant claims people know to tell me.

I'm a bit of a character though.

[Bell]

Well, you do you. I doubt you'll change now and I guess you're more of an interactive type.
I'm town by the way. Are you scum?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Well you haven't missed to much so far so there's not much to worry about.

[Glitch]

I don't read on subbing in.

Is this consistent in your other games you've subbed in?

[Titus]

I don't read on subbing in.

Is this consistent in your other games you've subbed in?

Day 1 or Day 50. The only exception I make is if I sub in during nightphase and I rand town protective or vigilante. Even then, I fake not reading so veterans don't know my role.

Also, Bell, I am totally scum. Those are the ones with the purple PMs right?