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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm

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Did you mix up loved with hated? Thank you though
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:30 pm

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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:31 pm

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broke away from work, let's dive back in
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:34 pm

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On phone be back in a bit hopefully.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:36 pm

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In post 1200, Isis wrote:
Did you mix up loved with hated? Thank you though
no

I interpreted it as who would I be voting right now if I didn't have to worry about the day ending early

I suppose if this was D1 of a mini I would be voting Norwee because I think he deserves pressure and is more urgent to sort. But Walter is who I want to eliminate. Maybe norwee is the real answer to your question then.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:38 pm

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I agree with Isis's pov and also with Dann about Norwergian being more able to verbalize if we are wrong on him than Walter.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:38 pm

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3 stacks of loved is enough that player would have to self vote to achieve their hell.

I was asking who else you scumread outside those two
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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:42 pm

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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:44 pm

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I'm leaning GC but that is pending a Hectic reread
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:46 pm

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Dann, if we hit scum today, do you see as a good move sending GC to heaven ? (In you opinion)
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:52 pm

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okay so maybe i'm not in a great mental space for it, and plus trying to glean AI information from a mis-elim isn't nearly as fruitful from a scum elimination, but rereading pages 10-18 didn't give me major feels. I still don't like Cth and Isis for their dance around the word vote, and also took umber with some of Walter's and Norwegian's back and forth on voting and unvoting and voting again.

I think the answer is that these actions are consistent with them being scum, but not necessarily indicative of it.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:59 pm

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Don't worry, just do what you can ^
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:05 pm

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I have difficulty reading inside the interactions around the elimination of Word, considering that I was convinced that he was scum because of his uncharacteristic posts in the game. So it's possible that the majority of the votes on him were not in bad faith.
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:06 pm

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I would guess the heavening discussion is more likely to be alignment indicative
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:08 pm

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posts about Miso are the most alignment indicative, that's why I've been insisting on more of them all game
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:11 pm

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In post 1209, clidd wrote:Dann, if we hit scum today, do you see as a good move sending GC to heaven ? (In you opinion)
Uhhh I'm not sure

I think it kinda depends on how my read evolves on him / what he shows between now and then.

If I think there's a good chance he's scum then probably not, I would lean towards you or Isis or myself. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if he heaven'd him and he flipped scum, considering we would be at 4:1 with you still around as our towny town. But I'd rather be able to heaven town reads and have those be corrected by the flip than to heaven scum reads.

Right now my read on GC is pretty stale and I need to both reread him and him to hopefully have the chance to post more
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:14 pm

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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:16 pm

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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:18 pm

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Miso deserves the softest lil bed
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:19 pm

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I think his flip scenario within the context of heaven is the path that was giving me greater comfort, as we would be able to help each other in the final sort.

But I agree that we need more impressions on him.
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:20 pm

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okay caught up from when i was last here

let's start with clidd, who will remain my wildcard.

I do not connect at all with how clidd plays this game. i'm talking about onward on page 42. I don't understand his "tone" justification. he seems to read Cth and Walter based primarily/entirely off of his own personal experience with them.

i don't know if this is a real AI thing, but it's making it difficult for me to assess his slot

that said, he's certainly acting with the certainty of someone who is being widely townread in the later pages (for example, [post=1108[post 1108[/post]), which canl point to more likely town than scum. it conveys a certain comfort level of being town read, which is not impossible for scum to do but isn't naturally aligned with the more cautious scum mentality.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:21 pm

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Hey Isis, do you share from the same pov as Dann ?

Pedit: Hi again.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:24 pm

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If you mean do I also want to heaven the towniest person possible in heaven2 like Dann says, I do.
Isis>clidd>other people
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:31 pm

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I kind of want you and Dann to stay and help, but let's see.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:35 pm

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I don't think my reasoning is normal for you to analyze rationally, GC. Feelings/sensations/imagination are not tangible.

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