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[superbowl9]

Yes but when town does it they should be policy elimmed. Don't get me wrong I get where you're coming from, I hate when people respect claims too much, bail on wagons, allow anti-town behavior to go unpunished, etc. But if you want a fullclaim don't jump off the wagon at L-1. If you want a claim you have to put some level of respect on said claim, or else it doesn't matter. It just seems like you want your cake for free, to have it, eat it, and then sell it for a profit

[I Keep Siteflaking]

GLITCH IS NOT HAPPENING HE CLAIMED PR

This leads to:
a) we lynch VT
b) no lynch
c) random lynch without claim
+ we make a small rolecall.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not the most scummy player herw by far, even if you don’t TR me as strongly i don’t see why i should be elimmed first Stan.

[superbowl9]

unvoting b4 a claim to is just pro-town play.

NO

Because then this exact shit happens - just punish quickhammering if it happens and people will learn real quick not to do it because it's an auto-elim for you tomorrow.

[Nero Cain]

sb, why is Glitch town? if you've already said words can you just link me?

[stan1ey]

I’m not the most scummy player herw by far, even if you don’t TR me as strongly i don’t see why i should be elimmed first Stan.

Nero is the scummiest if u wanna vote there with me mate

[NorwegianboyEE]

but what has NBEE done to achieve clout this game? all he has done really is simp for nero and double down on glitch after a claim. Also last game I played with NBEE he was obviously town from the get go, here his attitude is entirely different. Ik he already said that that game he made more of an effort to appear town but eh I dont really see why he wouldnt here even if isnt the same role

Also this is just bad, like scum bad.
If not Glitch i’d happily vote Stan1ey.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not the most scummy player herw by far, even if you don’t TR me as strongly i don’t see why i should be elimmed first Stan.

Nero is the scummiest if u wanna vote there with me mate

Why would you ask your scumread to vote with you? This is just weird and i don’t see how it’s an natural mindset from you.

[stan1ey]

Btw kinda irrelevant but last day or 2 my read on superbowl has done an 180 from scum to hard towny

[superbowl9]

GLITCH IS NOT HAPPENING HE CLAIMED PR

This leads to:
a) we lynch VT
b) no lynch
c) random lynch without claim
+ we make a small rolecall.

If we hit a second PR claim we can evaluate if we elim between one of them or try again. But running up the first PR claim on D1 is just such poor strategy

[stan1ey]

I’m not the most scummy player herw by far, even if you don’t TR me as strongly i don’t see why i should be elimmed first Stan.

Nero is the scummiest if u wanna vote there with me mate

Why would you ask your scumread to vote with you? This is just weird and i don’t see how it’s an natural mindset from you.

I was joking cos u seemed to think I should only be voting my top scumread

[Nero Cain]

NO

Because then this exact shit happens - just punish quickhammering if it happens and people will learn real quick not to do it because it's an auto-elim for you tomorrow.

I mean, yes it happens alot as scum and they usually get lynched the next day but unvoting to prevent one is a pretty common pratice around here.

[superbowl9]

sb, why is Glitch town? if you've already said words can you just link me?

Nothing they've done specifically just the counter tunneling and terrible logic on both sides makes the whole thing seem very TvT

[I Keep Siteflaking]

I’m not the most scummy player herw by far, even if you don’t TR me as strongly i don’t see why i should be elimmed first Stan.

I mean. You are really active, yet you don't add much to the conversation. That is very scummy.

[Nero Cain]

What do you even think my case on Glitch is?

[superbowl9]

Btw kinda irrelevant but last day or 2 my read on superbowl has done an 180 from scum to hard towny

Can't say the same for you buddy

[NorwegianboyEE]

This fucking game.

[superbowl9]

NO

Because then this exact shit happens - just punish quickhammering if it happens and people will learn real quick not to do it because it's an auto-elim for you tomorrow.

I mean, yes it happens alot as scum and they usually get lynched the next day but unvoting to prevent one is a pretty common pratice around here.

ik it is common but it's probably one of the most annoying common practices of all time - you're just opening the door for your wagon to fall apart. Common =/= good

[stan1ey]

Btw kinda irrelevant but last day or 2 my read on superbowl has done an 180 from scum to hard towny

Can't say the same for you buddy

dw when nero flips scrums I'll accept the crown as town leader

[superbowl9]

What do you even think my case on Glitch is?

If you want me to be honest I don't even remember anymore. I read through your interaction and 100% understood both arguments and found them both to be awful yet verbose. Neither was worth commenting on and raising the shitstorm even more so not really a surprise the args weren't worth remembering for my brain. I can go back and give you a quick high level summary if you really want but idrc if you scumread glitch for the present moment so not trying to convince you otherwise

pedit: if that ever happens I will kiss your gangly alien feet stanley

[superbowl9]

But okay we can go off in the woods as much as we want - we need to consolidate for today and nero and norway you are big parts of that. Fwesnid or 72 let's get these wagons going

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stan, my problem with your read on me is that you are basing it on ONE game where i was pretty universally townread early on, something which is usually an rare occurence for me. There have been games where i’m town and have been wagoned to E-1 and scumread universally because of my FIRST post in the game, and then i make 200 posts to convince them but they still all think i’m obvscum for dumbass reasons.
Point is, you can’t just take one game as a pointer that when i’m town i’m always townread because that’s not reality.
Another problem is that i can’t tell if you’re scum that decided to use meta as an excuse to opportunistically scumread me or you are town that thinks you’ve gotten awesome at reading me based on very little. Because i can’t seperate the two it makes it hard for me to tell if you’re tunneling because you’re stubborn or you have no reason to change your read becausr you are scum and found yourself a nice little point to press on which absolves responsibility and doesn’t require you to actually look for genuine scumtells in this game.

[Nero Cain]

I don't particularly like either wagon. I might vote 72 just b/c I didn't like looters vote on Fwesnid and Polandball made me feel like this game was different. I'm active and here so I can consolidate my vote at any time. I want others to take a stance that haven't yet.

glitch
a50
stan
looter

[superbowl9]

Fair enough

[Nero Cain]

lets just throw in ralp for shits and giggles