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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:26 pm

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I don't have a sense of Dunn's reads on anybody in this game

and I don't like Farren using me as justification to not vote Dunnstral
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:31 pm

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overall I think I'm like here

{Isis, MT}
{tea leaves, Gamma}
{Bell, Farren}
{Dunn, Ydrasse}

Isis I'm not following , what's the inconsistency there
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:34 pm

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If Ydrasse is in your scum reads why aren't you voting there?
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:35 pm

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because there's more interest in Dunn right now, I pushed Ydrasse for a good ~500 posts and like three different people have her as hardtown

I'd happily go back to Ydrasse in a heartbeat if you want to start that up again
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:36 pm

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Oh, well okay.
I'm still catching up and I can see how Isis got manipulated there (maybe, if ydrasse is an arsonist anyway).
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:37 pm

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500 may be an exaggeration it's actually way closer to like 200 but you get what I mean
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:37 pm

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It's aight Hobbe, I get what you mean.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:41 pm

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Case: To put it as simply as possible. Ydrasse is self-narrating, watching and waiting, pocketing Isis in a way that is confusing because Isis should know he's being pocketed.
And a bunch of other minor things.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:49 pm

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Think of it as the replace in perspective. To me Ydrasse looks like obvious scum. (inb4 she flips town). But I think my read is quite serious. I'm fine with ending the day now on that elimination and I can case if I want and I don't think Ydrasse could do much to change my mind on their slot because they made too many posts that ping to me.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:51 pm

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Going to bed.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:52 pm

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I did not see anything in the scum PT beyond the mod's opening post before it disappeared on me.

I'm going to sleep on 698. The closest I can think of right now for scum agenda there is generic stuff, value zero.

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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:59 pm

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In post 701, GuiltyLion wrote:overall I think I'm like here

{Isis, MT}
{tea leaves, Gamma}
{Bell, Farren}
{Dunn, Ydrasse}

Isis I'm not following , what's the inconsistency there
Read her iso, she wiggles between Farren being a stronger read, or Farren being a more "interesting" read, or there not being any difference really. She is truthfully reporting on the best of her recollection of her emulated reasoning, but that recollection is weaker because they are emulations.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:02 pm

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I don't have much reason to townread Ydrasses except a weak notion that she was kind of carefree early but that's not very weighty.

I would primarily oppose her chopping because I think she is voting the actual scum in the thread when her vote is necessary to make that happen so unless someone brings me a flipped green tea I don't want people to vote Ydrasse
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:20 pm

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In post 504, Morning Tweet wrote:Dunn, although you may be correct that I should be one to notice you're gone -- what was the point of pointing it out in 411? Does it make you think im scummy? I struggle to find what the intention behind pointing it out was
I was trying to figure out why you weren't saying anything. Your answer made sense
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:13 pm

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In post 640, Farren wrote:
In post 635, tea leaves wrote:No wait you're going to think I'm scummy for not wanting to pressure Farren.

VOTE: Farren
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:39 pm

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Hi Bell!

VOTE: Dunnstral

Isis is really wrong but I can't think of what else to say to her to convince her against the reason for why she's voting me.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:47 am

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Ydrasse could you go over why you still think I'm scum after everything I said? If I was scum I would just fake some nice sounding logic for why I voted Farren rather than try and be completely honest with what I was thinking back then which is what you and Isis don't like.
I'm thinking about if I should omgus you or not.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:44 am

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Apparently I don't logic very well first thing in the morning either. First thing I thought of on re-reading 698: what about if scum|Gamma was trying to protect scum|Ydrasse?

Answer: Possible, but that would also mean Town|GuiltyLion, because there are only two scum.

And on re-look, GuiltyLion addresses that possibility as well, thinking it beyond most players' scumrange.

Scum has to push someone. Scum|GuiltyLion's rapidly running out of potential partners, though. Creating too many not-partners-with-him associations. I don't think he does that as scum. Not going to re-vote there.

Now I have to figure out who to vote. Breakfast first.
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:17 am

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VOTE: Ydrasse
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:22 am

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In post 646, Isis wrote:Morning Tweet are you trying to end our friendship
nYoooOOOO

You're probably wrong about tea though. Unless you had a revelation about her that i missed
In post 668, Farren wrote:
In post 665, Isis wrote:but i hate tea leaves so much that i want to stump her and then cheat on her
Can't stump scum. Just kill them. What happened to that confidence about scum|tea leaves?
Isis do you subconsciously not even believe that tea is scum

(Nah I could see replacing elim with stump too. I don't think this means anything)
In post 697, Bell wrote:Based off my first 3 pages I feel like pine's current vote was cool and good and do not know why there are not more votes on Ydrasse.
Farren second. Kind of complex headspace there.

Clidd townie. Clidd town. -> Cliid obvtown.
Mena??? Eh. Cool he threw down the policy lurker card, a mena favorite. And Mena Convo with Clidd veered into his principled territory. Probs town. Cool. Two town reads so far.

Mena & Clidd slots can town block with me when they feel like I've earned their recognition.

Morning Tweet: Ydrasse question seems a little bit creative.

Dunstral: Scummeh.
GulityLion. Not familiar with Clidd's sudden read flips or hard town reads based on empathy. Or just trying to break that up. Honest rxn to Farren.
Gamma. Not much to bite into.

Page 1- Page 10.
Glad to see we can come to an agreement on Mena/Clidd or Isis/tea

I am thinkin and thinkin about Ydrasse I should really ISO her sometime when i'm feeling like it
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:24 am

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In post 700, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't have a sense of Dunn's reads on anybody in this game

and I don't like Farren using me as justification to not vote Dunnstral
!!!! I thought the "Vote GL or Gamma exactly" thing was sort of weird
In post 701, GuiltyLion wrote:overall I think I'm like here

{Isis, MT}
{tea leaves, Gamma}
{Bell, Farren}
{Dunn, Ydrasse}

Isis I'm not following , what's the inconsistency there
Yes!!!! these are good reads!!!!!!! yay guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As long as you're town anyway. no read compliments for scum
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:29 am

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In post 710, Farren wrote:I did not see anything in the scum PT beyond the mod's opening post before it disappeared on me.

I'm going to sleep on 698. The closest I can think of right now for scum agenda there is generic stuff, value zero.

UNVOTE: GuiltyLion
I had the link to the scum PT, but no access. I think i may have been the arsonist who wasn't meant to be !
In post 711, Isis wrote:
In post 701, GuiltyLion wrote:overall I think I'm like here

{Isis, MT}
{tea leaves, Gamma}
{Bell, Farren}
{Dunn, Ydrasse}

Isis I'm not following , what's the inconsistency there
Read her iso, she wiggles between Farren being a stronger read, or Farren being a more "interesting" read, or there not being any difference really. She is truthfully reporting on the best of her recollection of her emulated reasoning, but that recollection is weaker because they are emulations.
this is too fukimng COMPLICATED

Maybe you're right. Or maybe you're reading too much into tea leaves' recollection
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:58 am

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i'll be around later tonight/tomorrow to talk more!

@bell: this might be weird to ask since it's about me but could you post some of the things that pinged you abt me?
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:02 pm

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In post 722, Ydrasse wrote:i'll be around later tonight/tomorrow to talk more!

@bell: this might be weird to ask since it's about me but could you post some of the things that pinged you abt me?
I slept all day. I'm not sure if I'm happy that happened or worried.

1. This game has angry ghosts. If you push an elimination yourself without a shield the rest of the town is likely to get nagged by vengeful stumps into making you the next elimination.
2. Why would it be weird to be curious about my motivations of my read of you?
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:28 pm

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Anyone out there?

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