Mini Theme 2158: Cards of Destiny Mafia Game Over

[Hayasaka]

I just realized I missed a quote from D&D but it's essentially answered in my reply to Date anyway. It's just the wording is now not targetted at them.

I'd do a catch up where I add thoughts but it's 3am.
I have 2-3 targets I am leaning on right now for the gladiate but I won't share them for personal reasons.

[Ampharos]

kinda like FL's posts on the previous page for reasons i'm struggling to articulate. might come back to it in a few hours

might not be around much for the next few days

[MariaR]

VC 1.4

Gamma Emerald (4): Hayasaka, PookyTheMagicalBear, Not_Mafia, Daenerys and Dragons
Not_Mafia (1): Ampharos
Venus Mars and Pluto(1): tris
DoctorPepper (1): Kaname Date
Not Voting (6): Venus Mars and Pluto, DoctorPepper, jjh927, Flavor Leaf, BrightEyedFish, Gamma Emerald

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-03 14:33:01)

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to fade away

[Flavor Leaf]

I am trying to figure FL out but to some degree, the Pooky read isn't the worst I just don't understand what FL is doing and it bothers me.
There are limited moments when I feel like he is trying to solve compared to him just talking to player because he can. He basically feels a lot more reactive then proactive with his solving this game and it's a yikes to me.

I scum read "who are the neighbors" in particular. Feels like one of those manufactured posts to get the super-easy "but that would have been brought up in the scum PT" read. It was a page 1 claim brought up on many pages afterward.

just my playstyle. I feel I'm bringing a lot of discussion to the table, to be honest, if only because people will talk about me. That's an invisible effect I have on the game.

The second part, meh, I understand that. I just don't pay attention a lot of times. I could find instances in this, or you could ask players who know me like Auro/nancy/gamma, if you even need that to be further developed

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

VC 1.3

Gamma Emerald (4): Hayasaka, PookyTheMagicalBear, Not_Mafia, Daenerys and Dragons
Not_Mafia (1): Ampharos
Venus Mars and Pluto(1): tris
DoctorPepper (1): Kaname Date
Hayasaka (1): Gamma Emerald
Not Voting (5): Venus Mars and Pluto, DoctorPepper, jjh927, Flavor Leaf, BrightEyedFish

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-03 14:33:01)

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to fade away

@Gamma how can you be town here and still be voteparked on Hya? This doesn’t look like the anime game we played together where you were making reasonable but controversial stances. I didn’t necessarily agree with them but I could see how they made logical sense.

@Mars

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I am trying to figure FL out but to some degree, the Pooky read isn't the worst I just don't understand what FL is doing and it bothers me.
There are limited moments when I feel like he is trying to solve compared to him just talking to player because he can. He basically feels a lot more reactive then proactive with his solving this game and it's a yikes to me.

I scum read "who are the neighbors" in particular. Feels like one of those manufactured posts to get the super-easy "but that would have been brought up in the scum PT" read. It was a page 1 claim brought up on many pages afterward.

just my playstyle. I feel I'm bringing a lot of discussion to the table, to be honest, if only because people will talk about me. That's an invisible effect I have on the game.

The second part, meh, I understand that. I just don't pay attention a lot of times. I could find instances in this, or you could ask players who know me like Auro/nancy/gamma, if you even need that to be further developed

What are your current reads on Gamma, DnD, Pooky? I only ask about Pooky because of my hydra partners don’t see where I’m coming from wrt to him. Thanks.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

on that note,

@pooky @Venus

why just the hellos?

Why wouldn't I? It's rude not to say hi

Are you deliberately misunderstanding the question?

- Daenerys

Doing what now?

~Venus

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

vote flavor leaf

Talking too much

Dumbest reason to vote someone I ever seen, I legit think you might be scum trying to derail something.

i am not a fan of this post.
VOTE: Venus, Mars, & Pluto

Even if pooky were not shitposting, i don't see how it would be derailing

It is derailly if people take it it and start asking questions about it. If it was a rvs kinda vote it was way too late in the game to be of any meaning/fun

~Venus

What did you think Pooky was trying to derail with his vote?

- Daenerys

Nothing in specific just derail any discussion that might be had if people started askig questions about it

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

on that note,

@pooky @Venus

why just the hellos?

Why wouldn't I? It's rude not to say hi

Are you deliberately misunderstanding the question?

- Daenerys

Doing what now?

~Venus

She’s asking why you ONLY said hi. I don’t see the big deal but yeah that’s what she’s asking. This is actually kind of hilarious if you think about it.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

on that note,

@pooky @Venus

why just the hellos?

Why wouldn't I? It's rude not to say hi

Are you deliberately misunderstanding the question?

- Daenerys

Doing what now?

~Venus

She’s asking why you ONLY said hi. I don’t see the big deal but yeah that’s what she’s asking. This is actually kind of hilarious if you think about it.

No I know but it is so nonsensical this was the only reaction I had.

~Venus

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Refusing to participate in RVS isn’t in itself scummy, but now that’s like the fourth or fifth time that you’ve avoided answering why you didn’t put down an RVS vote and I don’t understand why you won’t just answer????

- Daenerys

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Authors note: This is not a tested or proven tell, I don't track hydra specific tells because friendships impact their play patterns too much.

It's more something I noticed than anything else, I don't think it's a bad play. As a solo slot I wouldn't even have mentioned it, it's just interesting that Cakez went to sheep a top town read instead of checking up with Lilith. But voting Gamma then DMing Lilith "hey I did this" isn't impossible or scummy. It's just something I wanted to chew on for a bit and I sort of realized isn't scummy. Maybe it really was, at the very least that tell is something I am going to track moving forward to see if it means something.

I think it definitely depends on the hydra, but I’m interested to see the results if you do track it. In this specific case, I told Cakez I wasn’t going to be able to get to the game for a few days and asked him to hold down the fort. In general, I feel like actually most of my hydras act as pretty independent heads.... Is your expectation that hydra heads will always confer with each other before voting? Or like, what exactly is the expectation that we’re subverting?

I wanted to add D&D to create that dramatic tension but I think something about them scum reading one of you and null reading the other makes them not want to be our masons??? Weird stuff really.

Wait, who are we scumreading?

- Daenerys

[Daenerys and Dragons]

They made that initial post I didn’t like.

Multiple people went against it, interesting note.

2nd highest amount of posts in the game

And I didn’t hate the way they talked when we were talking back when.

That’s my read on tris.

I feel like this view of tris doesn’t match up with how strongly you talked about her at the time. “I feel a tunnel coming on” (then nothing of the sort happened), “tris is screaming scum” (but not a scumread). Sure, your read could have changed since then, but you keep like insisting that your words weren’t that strong even though they seem pretty strong.

Unfortunately I still have 0 idea how to read you so I can’t even tell if me being bothered by this is AI for you

-Daenerys

[BrightEyedFish]

Is it bad that I want to vote gamma just so the wagon will dissolve because it can't fade there and we can move on to someone else.

VOTE: gamma

[BrightEyedFish]

L-2 BTW

[BrightEyedFish]

F-2 sorry

[Daenerys and Dragons]

@sailor girls

can you pretty please sign every post? I can’t tell who answered what if yall are posting at the same time.

[Daenerys and Dragons]

vote flavor leaf

Talking too much

Dumbest reason to vote someone I ever seen, I legit think you might be scum trying to derail something.

i am not a fan of this post.
VOTE: Venus, Mars, & Pluto

Even if pooky were not shitposting, i don't see how it would be derailing

It is derailly if people take it it and start asking questions about it. If it was a rvs kinda vote it was way too late in the game to be of any meaning/fun

~Venus

What did you think Pooky was trying to derail with his vote?

- Daenerys

Nothing in specific just derail any discussion that might be had if people started askig questions about it

- nothing was happening on that page except a vote that pooky himself made. There was nothing to derail except FL talking, and pooky’s vote is in direct response to that, so basically you just pulled this comment out of your ass
- if you think pooky is scum for that vote, why didn’t you vote or push him?
- what’s your read on FL?

- Daenerys

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Is it bad that I want to vote gamma just so the wagon will dissolve because it can't fade there and we can move on to someone else.

VOTE: gamma

Who says it can’t?

Do you have a read on gamma?

This

might be the dumbest reason for a vote I’ve ever seen.

- Daenerys

[Daenerys and Dragons]

@fish do you have anything to say about like, literally any actual content in the game

- Daenerys

[BrightEyedFish]

@fish do you have anything to say about like, literally any actual content in the game

- Daenerys

Yes, the gamma wagon is weak. Can we move on?

[Daenerys and Dragons]

- why is it weak?
- do you suspect anyone on the wagon?
- what wagon would you prefer over gamma’s?

- Daenerys

[BrightEyedFish]

- why is it weak?
- do you suspect anyone on the wagon?
- what wagon would you prefer over gamma’s?

- Daenerys

I mean, you are sitting on that sweet #4 spot--the magical hideout where scum love to rest their feet--So I think that answers The 2nd and 3rd bullet.

Why do I think its weak? Probably because it's the first wagon of the game so its not really built on anything that will give us info if we flip gamma right now.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Refusing to participate in RVS isn’t in itself scummy, but now that’s like the fourth or fifth time that you’ve avoided answering why you didn’t put down an RVS vote and I don’t understand why you won’t just answer????

- Daenerys

I almost never put down an RVS vote and I fail to see why you have an issue with that?

Why is not doing an RVS vote scummy?

~Mars

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

- why is it weak?
- do you suspect anyone on the wagon?
- what wagon would you prefer over gamma’s?

- Daenerys

I mean, you are sitting on that sweet #4 spot--the magical hideout where scum love to rest their feet--So I think that answers The 2nd and 3rd bullet.

Why do I think its weak? Probably because it's the first wagon of the game so its not really built on anything that will give us info if we flip gamma right now.

And they keep needling Shiro over nonsense like his “hi” post and now RVS thing. Town doesn’t focus too much on those kinds of things. Otoh, while Tris vote on us is wrong, it’s based on logical game advancing reasoning.

~Mars