Open 791 | Forest Fire | Game Over

[GuiltyLion]

personally I'm struggling with Gamma turning on Bell for voting him like that and suggesting Ydrasse/Bell team, that feels like he was more interested in discrediting Bell's vote than operating from genuine reads

but that could come from frustrated town, he backed down on it pretty quickly, idk if that's town or scum realizing they made a claim they can't realistically defend

[GuiltyLion]

there's certainly a degree of worry here about being flashwagoned

I think generally town should be less worried about that in a treestump game with the PR already outed

but old habits die hard

[Gamma Emerald]

I understand it might be hard to swallow with a 2man team, but let’s also consider that it seems like no one has bothered to stick up for me in a meaningful capacity besides myself? At least one Town was closer to elimination than I was if I am scum, why doesn’t the other scum redirect to that Townie? And like I’m pretty sure everyone who hasn’t indicated interest in voting me specifically has checked in.

[Isis]

can i proxy my vote to mt

[Bell]

I understand it might be hard to swallow with a 2man team, but let’s also consider that it seems like no one has bothered to stick up for me in a meaningful capacity besides myself? At least one Town was closer to elimination than I was if I am scum, why doesn’t the other scum redirect to that Townie? And like I’m pretty sure everyone who hasn’t indicated interest in voting me specifically has checked in.

Hmm.

[Bell]

It's hard to stick up for aimless maybe Tree.

[Farren]

I understand it might be hard to swallow with a 2man team, but let’s also consider that it seems like no one has bothered to stick up for me in a meaningful capacity besides myself? At least one Town was closer to elimination than I was if I am scum, why doesn’t the other scum redirect to that Townie? And like I’m pretty sure everyone who hasn’t indicated interest in voting me specifically has checked in.

Scum don't always defend each other. Busing is a thing. Distancing is a thing. Anti-associatives are a thing.

[Bell]

Besides Ydrasse I think she did stick up for you.
It seemed kind of negative toward her win condition. For her, one of the reasons I switched my vote to you was because she was cutting herself off from a wagon that she didn't need to cut herself off from as scum.
Then again maybe it was a soft defense and she just recognized the game state better. *Thinks*

[Gamma Emerald]

I understand it might be hard to swallow with a 2man team, but let’s also consider that it seems like no one has bothered to stick up for me in a meaningful capacity besides myself? At least one Town was closer to elimination than I was if I am scum, why doesn’t the other scum redirect to that Townie? And like I’m pretty sure everyone who hasn’t indicated interest in voting me specifically has checked in.

Scum don't always defend each other. Busing is a thing. Distancing is a thing. Anti-associatives are a thing.

I was a low-level suspect though, it would have very likely been a system shock to see that happen and would likely trigger defense mode

Also, to

Bell

, I’m curious what you mean about Ydrasse cutting herself off from a wagon?

[Bell]

There was telegraphed interest in your wagon when Ydrasse defended you as aimless town.
If Tea Leaves wagon didn't work out, she seemed the next on the chopping block. At least in my view. So not saying "Maybe, Gamma could be scum!" as a second viable wagon would be against her win condition.

[Morning Tweet]

Gamma ur reaction to being wagoned is there must be scum on the wagon and therefore the wagon wouldn't have happened if you were scum?

Apologies if im misinterpretting im a bit cloudy today

can i proxy my vote to mt

no dont

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah idk rn, that kinda just took the air out of my sails I think
Still need to properly process but it feels like that kills my point about the fact no one defended me

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma ur reaction to being wagoned is there must be scum on the wagon and therefore the wagon wouldn't have happened if you were scum?

Apologies if im misinterpretting im a bit cloudy today

can i proxy my vote to mt

no dont

I think there’s scum on my wagon because I think the different votes that came on have to add up to one scum
Tea leaves has self-interest, Bell there was the thought of being buddies with Ydrasse, which doesn’t hold up much now but was my thinking then, and I have a strong townread on Farren and a decent one on GL, leaving Isis and MT as viable suspects outside that
I’d either have to be wrong somewhere or have scum both in the margins for my claim to be off

[Gamma Emerald]

And FYI those thoughts aren’t really connected

[Gamma Emerald]

Wrt scum in the wagon and why I can’t be scum

[Isis]

Gamma ur reaction to being wagoned is there must be scum on the wagon and therefore the wagon wouldn't have happened if you were scum?

Apologies if im misinterpretting im a bit cloudy today

can i proxy my vote to mt

no dont

Proxy your vote to me and vote Gamma, he flipped from strong townreading me to suspecting me in like 3 posts

[Morning Tweet]

Yeah I can't process it very well right now for some reason ummm not a great time considering there's like no time til deadline

I'm operating off of my spirtual Ydrasse townread and that I thought tea leaves was town earlier in the game. The last like 7-10 pages are probably really important for gauging how the Dunn wagon broke down into Ydrasse and into Gamma but I just can't read it good rn

There's a somewhat decent chance Gamma was just taken aback by the flash wagon and is responding to it with his first impulse even if maybe it doesn't make sense. But I don't want Ydrasse and i dont *think* i want tea leaves

I think there’s scum on my wagon because I think the different votes that came on have to add up to one scum
Tea leaves has self-interest, Bell there was the thought of being buddies with Ydrasse, which doesn’t hold up much now but was my thinking then, and I have a strong townread on Farren and a decent one on GL, leaving Isis and MT as viable suspects outside that
I’d either have to be wrong somewhere or have scum both in the margins for my claim to be off

I see, I suppose probability wise it makes sense. I see that Bell, Isis, and GL had negative reactions to your reaction but I also sort of had the same thought

[Morning Tweet]

Proxy your vote to me and vote Gamma, he flipped from strong townreading me to suspecting me in like 3 posts

yah but is it

scummy

or

emotional

[Bell]

Nah, I didn't have negative reactions there was a consistent undercurrent to his suspicions of me.
I had negative reactions to Ydrasse/Bell scum team diversion which was, kinda nuts.

[Bell]

MT, are you being the reasonable scumz RN who knows that we're miseliminating a tree?

[Bell]

What are your scum reads again?

[tea leaves]

Farren flashwagon anyone? I have a dream.

[Farren]

No thank you.

[Bell]

Farren flashwagon anyone? I have a dream.

No thank you,
Maybe later.

[Bell]

Someone hammer. So I can know if I'm dumb or not (I already know I'm dumb).