Mini Theme 2158: Cards of Destiny Mafia Game Over

[BrightEyedFish]

also same question on my side, is what dnd said the only reason you fos me or is there more?

Its the main reason yes.

[BrightEyedFish]

also, Fish, i am polite and friendly to everyone. except for FL, apparently. but that's because i think he knows any insults are only in jest. :>

And that by itself is not a bad thing at all. I am also talking about DnD's vibe in the dialogue with you as well

[BrightEyedFish]

I support the DP venge on NM.

However, I would rather do a straight fade on NM at this point in the game.

I'll vote NM right now but if I'll let DP decide his own fate and join if he requests.

VOTE: not mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

No point in revealing it now

Can you at least state your target?

[Gamma Emerald]

Mechanics cleared Pooky.
In many ways actually.

I honestly would have townread them just because of play differences to another game

Also, just gonna put this out there that I have the same flavor as D&D, so flavor has no meaning.

in what way? are you saying you're the devil also?

Yeah

There’s a reason I posted what I did in my first post of the game. There’s more to it than “scummish flavor that turned out to be shared with an actual scum” but until I think it’s wise to reveal everything I won’t.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, I don’t really remember how he is as a player, but if he’s scum, he’s played with his posts well today.

However, I don’t think that it is impossible by any means for him to still be scum, but I’m not like sold on going him, but the vengeful townie claim did exactly what it was supposed to do if he is scum.

I can see scum be a little more hesitant into letting DrP be killed today, so scum points for Kamane/Tris in that regards.

You keep pushing KD, why is that?

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Doctor Pepper

Don't venge me

[Gamma Emerald]

Haya could you give an explicit time stamp for when you want to gladiate?

[Flavor Leaf]

Any chance DrP is a jester?

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I don’t really remember how he is as a player, but if he’s scum, he’s played with his posts well today.

However, I don’t think that it is impossible by any means for him to still be scum, but I’m not like sold on going him, but the vengeful townie claim did exactly what it was supposed to do if he is scum.

I can see scum be a little more hesitant into letting DrP be killed today, so scum points for Kamane/Tris in that regards.

You keep pushing KD, why is that?

Cuz i think they have a chance at being scum moreso than the others.

I feel like I’ve answered this multiple times, between his and ampharo

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

i was under the impression this wasn't a bastard game.

eliminating Pepper to hit NM still seems like the ideal outcome of this day to me.

I’m not quite sure about this but I think only if it actually ends the game.

gonna take enough rain checks to open up a rain bank this game

might have time to post semi-seriously tomorrow

mostly agree with KD re: we should probably dunk DrP to kill N_M

Only if you think he’s actually scum, otherwise no.

~Mars

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I support the DP venge on NM.

However, I would rather do a straight fade on NM at this point in the game.

I'll vote NM right now but if I'll let DP decide his own fate and join if he requests.

VOTE: not mafia

He did say something about having “a cool night action” so I guess he would know the answer to that but yeah, I don’t understand why executing a slot we think is town - especially if they could possibly have a possibly useful NA is in town’s best interests, so I agree.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

VOTE: Doctor Pepper

Don't venge me

This sounds really persuasive.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

@KD, @Ampharos, why isn’t it concerning either of you that your strongest scumread is voting identically to you?

@Amy, any particular reasons you continue to ignore every single question I keep asking you?

~M

[DoctorPepper]

I don't particularly think my NA is useful if I reveal, hence I am withholding that info

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

do it no balls

i have no idea

yes. unless you gladiate a player i don't townread. then it's good play.

the only offwagon i confidently TR is Hayasaka. let me see if i can remember what my other reads this game actually are.

Hmm, I guess I missed those.

@Amy, @KD , why are you encouraging gladiate over a regular execution? I agree with Tris that it’s suboptimal unless you have a wagon with excessive resistance and yeah, don’t like either’s reaction to the gladiate.

~M

i'm only convinced he's town because elimming him is the correct play. assuming scum is aware of that, claiming vengeful is just a shortcut to Pepper being eliminated.

if i were to say the claim makes him town and therefore we should elim someone else, then the claim no longer makes him town because i've just given reason for scum to make the claim.

So, you think we should either execute/Hya gladiate Pepper and have him venge NM/Amy/jjh, correct?

I wouldn’t support jjh. Not opposed to NM. If Amy flips scum, than Tris is probably spewed town from that, since extremely unlikely to have an SvS hood and obviously vice-versa.

@Amy, can we get a current readslist please?

And what is your current read on Tris?

~M

@Amy, do you have any other games - preferably both a towngame and a scumgame I could look at?

~M

@KD, @Ampharos, why isn’t it concerning either of you that your strongest scumread is voting identically to you?

@Amy, any particular reasons you continue to ignore every single question I keep asking you?

~M

@Amy

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

VOTE: Amy

I will probably switch to NM later but I’m not okay with her continuing to dodge all of my questions, so maybe she will find this to be more persuasive.

If Pepper’s NA is more helpful to town than the venge, than I’m not in favour of voting there.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Spoiler:

do it no balls

i have no idea

yes. unless you gladiate a player i don't townread. then it's good play.

the only offwagon i confidently TR is Hayasaka. let me see if i can remember what my other reads this game actually are.

Hmm, I guess I missed those.

@Amy, @KD , why are you encouraging gladiate over a regular execution? I agree with Tris that it’s suboptimal unless you have a wagon with excessive resistance and yeah, don’t like either’s reaction to the gladiate.

~M

i'm only convinced he's town because elimming him is the correct play. assuming scum is aware of that, claiming vengeful is just a shortcut to Pepper being eliminated.

if i were to say the claim makes him town and therefore we should elim someone else, then the claim no longer makes him town because i've just given reason for scum to make the claim.

So, you think we should either execute/Hya gladiate Pepper and have him venge NM/Amy/jjh, correct?

I wouldn’t support jjh. Not opposed to NM. If Amy flips scum, than Tris is probably spewed town from that, since extremely unlikely to have an SvS hood and obviously vice-versa.

@Amy, can we get a current readslist please?

And what is your current read on Tris?

~M

@Amy, do you have any other games - preferably both a towngame and a scumgame I could look at?

~M

@KD, @Ampharos, why isn’t it concerning either of you that your strongest scumread is voting identically to you?

@Amy, any particular reasons you continue to ignore every single question I keep asking you?

~M

@Amy

~M

One more question @Amy, which you will probably continue to ignore and think I probably won’t notice is:

Why do you have absolutely no reaction whatsoever to either Tris voting you or FL sr you?

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Yeah, I don’t really remember how he is as a player, but if he’s scum, he’s played with his posts well today.

However, I don’t think that it is impossible by any means for him to still be scum, but I’m not like sold on going him, but the vengeful townie claim did exactly what it was supposed to do if he is scum.

I can see scum be a little more hesitant into letting DrP be killed today, so scum points for Kamane/Tris in that regards.

You keep pushing KD, why is that?

Cuz i think they have a chance at being scum moreso than the others.

I feel like I’ve answered this multiple times, between his and ampharo

KD isn’t dodging any of my questions, so I lean Amy > KD rn.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

VOTE: Amy

I will probably switch to NM later but I’m not okay with her continuing to dodge all of my questions, so maybe she will find this to be more persuasive.

If Pepper’s NA is more helpful to town than the venge, than I’m not in favour of voting there.

~M

Is she continues to just pop into the thread without satisfactorily answering my questions, I might keep my vote on her.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Any chance DrP is a jester?

Why do you think this?

~M

[Flavor Leaf]

Any chance DrP is a jester?

Why do you think this?

~M

Pooky got me thinking about possibility of a jester in this game, and Gamma said they are also Devil, which is a flipped flavor. Full disclosure, I am the Fool, and I'm not jester, so before I was thinking it wasn't possible. What if DrP is vengeful townie claiming to win here. I doubt it will end game, but seems sus.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Any chance DrP is a jester?

Why do you think this?

~M

Pooky got me thinking about possibility of a jester in this game, and Gamma said they are also Devil, which is a flipped flavor. Full disclosure, I am the Fool, and I'm not jester, so before I was thinking it wasn't possible. What if DrP is vengeful townie claiming to win here. I doubt it will end game, but seems sus.

But he keeps talking about having this cool night action which would make people not want to execute him. Yes, I would think if you having the Fool card and not being jester, it’s probably unlikely unless my scum doppelgänger theory would extend to that - there possibly being a jester in this game.

~M

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, I don’t really remember how he is as a player, but if he’s scum, he’s played with his posts well today.

However, I don’t think that it is impossible by any means for him to still be scum, but I’m not like sold on going him, but the vengeful townie claim did exactly what it was supposed to do if he is scum.

I can see scum be a little more hesitant into letting DrP be killed today, so scum points for Kamane/Tris in that regards.

You keep pushing KD, why is that?

Cuz i think they have a chance at being scum moreso than the others.

I feel like I’ve answered this multiple times, between his and ampharo

Have you explained how?

[Flavor Leaf]

Just game state and the wagon momentum. I feel like townAmpharous should have gotten more momentum on them, which could explain why DnD didn’t have defense. One of the lurkers, and the one that couldn’t get steam.

Ampharos was absent during the DnD wagon as well.