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[lilith2013]

are you actually trying to make it seem like I’m the bad guy here?

[Saudade]

No, I'm telling you to stop talking to me

[UnaBombaH]

This was written from my phone too so i literally didnt need to fake any thought processes here mr deep wolf hunter boy

It feels like you wrote this in the past for the present-day me of the future!

Foureyed is one of the useless unreadable slots I mentioned above
I ignore Lavar

It's hard to say how long they've been away since I've paid no attention to timestamps, but where did Mr. FourEyes actually disappear?

Also billy you asked abt my lilith sr
It was a gutping early
Imo shes locktown now

OK..?
Well, I guess this doesn't ease my scumlean on you then.

don't worry, ss is town.

You really feel certain about that?
Like something between 75%-100%?

i haven't come up with a reason to scumread her yet haha please help my mask is slipping

???

are you actually saying that this whole time you were just pretending to scumread nepenthes? why?

If you admit to this ducky...

wait are you serious?

HAHAHA no i was trying to be funny

OK, going to do my catchup during the next ~8 hours.
Gonna be a lot of walls and thoughts throughout my read, so don't consider any of them "final" until I'm fully caught up.

That's just how I do it the best.

Can't believe I'm finally here after a whole day at work and then some.
..and then I realize that you crazy beasts have managed ~5 more pages in the mean time..

They're only final when you say I'm town. All other reads are invalid.

It feels like I'm actually getting there.

you worryyyyy too muchhhh lavas is town

Yeah, I got there too. I guess me reacting to your outdated reactions to my outdated reads would be a waste of time?

paraprasing: a wise person i know once said that if sausage is putting his energy into solving the game he's usually town; if he's putting his energy into making people look bad and being harder/more perplexing to read he's usually scum.

I honestly feel like this game has shown me not only the funniest Saudade has had to offer, but also some of the nicest and towniest tones as well.
10/10, would praise again.

Good point, i was thinking the same.
Fact that we shared this thought makes me believe we’re on the same side.

Don't you try and pocket me like this - I'm not that kind of a boy. You need to try harder.

[the worst]

Duck do you agree with lilith that norwegian has interacted with other players quite well and did good posting recently?

yeah
I'm finding it hard to scumread him but I enjoyed our interaction and I feel like he has had more good faith interactions than i, kinda expected him to, tbqh

I feel like when he comes back into the thread he's kinda not quite connected in a weird wau though. it's like he's kinda recalibrating for a few posts sometimes.

it's giving me Pause

[Saudade]

I don't tell you how to play so why do you think you should tell me how I play?
do you have an amazing town win rate or something?

[the worst]

if I lynch Nep and she's town I'm gonna be so sad

MOOD

[lilith2013]

I don't tell you how to play so why do you think you should tell me how I play?
do you have an amazing town win rate or something?

You’re certainly telling other people how to play

[Saudade]

Anyways I've unvoted, you guys do your thing

[the worst]

Ari is fun and funny but also plays with his heart on his sleeve; you can taste his earnestness or the faint taste of guilt if you breathe in enough

Una is like on the downlow completely cheeky so mindset tells need to be a bit more drawn out/abstract most of the time

Im not talking about mindset tells or emotion im talking about their play
I cant read Ari bc of how he approaches solving but una looks readable from here i can see a trajectory
But thats all i wanted to know thanks

I'll circle back to this at a later date.

[Saudade]

I don't tell you how to play so why do you think you should tell me how I play?
do you have an amazing town win rate or something?

You’re certainly telling other people how to play

No, I'm telling them to post or improve their posting, or something similar.
Anyways, I'm not gonna argue with you, move on

[Nepenthes]

Anyways I've unvoted, you guys do your thing

Its hard to play mafia when im in shock so im getting coffee

[Saudade]

my vote can go back up if it helps

[Nepenthes]

Norwee is friendly and charming but i dont consider either thing to be town indicative
Originally i thought norwee and tws little tvt thing was too neat to actually be tvt and wondered if tw was the scum in it but atp im willing to call that a successful deescalation from norwee

But thats not really why hes scum the biggest indicator are his voting patterns theyve all been on safe targets (zombie billy and me) but wrt billy he stopped carring abt the slot at all besides answering my questions
The vote on me he hides behind saudade but then starts commenting on my posts being scummy, notably only posts after he made the vote and none before which indicates a lack of solving

[Nepenthes]

my vote can go back up if it helps

You admitting the possibility of being wrong at all has already broken the spell sorry you cant unopen pandoras box

[lilith2013]

VOTE: norwegian

[TheFourEyedDude]

Who is tws?

[Nepenthes]

the worst

[Saudade]

tells me norwee has good posts
votes norwee 5 posts later
somebody hold me

[the worst]

You really feel certain about that?
Like something between 75%-100%?

like 73.49%

[lilith2013]

- never once said they were “good”
- never said I was townreading him

[the worst]

???

I baited the wrong person but I'll take it. gottem

I honestly feel like this game has shown me not only the funniest Saudade has had to offer, but also some of the nicest and towniest tones as well.

yeah I agree.

[Saudade]

man if this is my nicest towniest tone some people in this thread would be shocked

[UnaBombaH]

honestly i don't think una needs to squeeze all that hard to pop these out as scum but i still believe the little gems of cognisance in them enough that i want to call him town

I'm not even sure what you're referring to..
But honestly though, this has been my first wall-catchup-clownfiesta in some time.
And while I can understand people hating on it, I actually feel very good!
Can't remember the last time I've felt the need to do this as town and actually managed to pull myself together and just do it.

if siriuses latest 2 one liner posts count as a prod dodge im replacing out

I despise you, sir.

Yea, I'm just done with this now.
No idea who has voted for what or even if this is a hammer, but I'm just not going to have any of this here.
VOTE: Sirius9121 - scum want this around for lategame way more than town does.
Just get rid of it here, and we can start the game D2.

Also can you explain more what you mean about the SS/billy interactions? I wasn’t really paying attention to those posts so I’m curious to know what you saw.

I believe I put it into words there as well.
I couldn't even find anything concrete to quote within those few pages, but it still felt like S_S and Liverpool were talking AI things about the game.
Yet it didn't feel like it lead anywhere, and I learned nothing from it.
I'll have to return to that with a fresh set of eyes as well. But probably not today.

Ducky’s activity levels and content just scream town to me tbh. I don’t really have more to say.

I'm gonna return to this later as well.

Because BuDuckys activity levels and content DID NOT reflect their townplay until a very specific moment in time.

If Norwegian outed a townread on Ducky before that, there's a possibility of a scum!Norweg trying to pocket the Duckstinator.

God reading una is going to be like trying to read Aristophanes isnt it

Not sure.
Ari is a lot smarterer than me though.

Yes, I’m very paranoid of scum!duck, we just finished a game where literally no one was considering that he could be scum at lylo and he was. There are some small differences here that have me leaning town, but I’m very aware that he’s a good scumplayer and so “fakeability” has been at the back of my mind for him all game

Yea, just try to not get caught in a paranoia-tunnel for the rest of the game.
And that includes fence-sitting on your read too.
Try and sort him accurately, but also give yourself the permit to make a mistake instead of waffling constantly.
Your read on scum!TW might be the most "fresh" take there is, and we really might need your input before the end.

I think I’ve been putting forth enough effort elsewhere that he/others should still be able to read me, it’s not like my sole focus this game has been whining about ss not being able to read me.

Of course not - I was just giving an example of how I can empathize with what you might struggle with.

i'd say una is slightly less friendly, and slightly harder to read

Hold the phone. I'm less friendly than Aristophanes? Yea, I guess that checks out with most of the playerbase.
Harder to read? Sure.

for a powerful plist there is a lack of powerful pushes here
except this plist is mostly powerful because it's fun, rather than powerful because we're all 80% winrate mafia gods with massive egos
so idrk what to think about it.

damn this fence is getting comfy.

That last part I bolded...DANGEROUS. I know that feeling, but I do not want you to stay there if you're town.
I already have some murky thoughts about how this game might pan out..

[Nepenthes]

If this is you at your nicest then i feel bad for the players of your previous games

Tw besides the interaction with you what posts of norwee do you like

[Nepenthes]

Agree keeping Sirius around if he doesnt want to play will hurt more than help but eh