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[JacksonVirgo]

Nomal?

[I Keep Siteflaking]

Let's make a bold assumption that MM is town. Glitch pointing out L-1 is anti-scum - can prevent a mislynch. Perhaps he did it for town creds. But then 3203 destroys the very purpose of his L-1 post.

contradiction

Hence:
town MM => town Glitch.
MM is confirmable, so is Glitch.
Q.E.D.

[I Keep Siteflaking]

Nomal?

Yo! "normal" = Oxford, Amerahca Englahsh, like, or somethahng sahmahalr ta aht. Eeasyghlythahng odar ahs dahffahcult for not-natahve speakers ta understa'.

[JacksonVirgo]

I dunk sozry wlli pst tomrw

[shellyc]

lmao y'all posting in idk what language now

3203 was before the post that pointed out E-1. Pointing out E-1 is NAI, it's a very easy thing to do for towncred.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

BELL IS MVP

UNVOTE: Fwesnid

I have recieved feedback that I was visited by Fwesnid during the night!

FWESNID IS CONFIRMED LOUD, and it's likely that he's gunsmith as well. I'm definetly not shooting him in any way or form.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

And now, listen guys. I'm very much confirmable as vigilante since I can shoot tonight. Let me confirm myself?

[Hiraki]

im surprised mafia isn't taking advantage of this more than anything

Unvote, Vote: NPOM

[I Keep Siteflaking]

3203 was before the post that pointed out E-1. Pointing out E-1 is NAI, it's a very easy thing to do for towncred.

3203 comes before 3041.
Gotcha!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

A50, why would MM lie about something he didn't need to lie about.

From my PoV, MM\s play revolves around making people look scummy but not directly pushing it himself.

He already did it to me earlier today.

In Fwesnid's case he wanted to push there (based on a missassumption of how the GS works).

So, in my view he did get notified he was visited by Fwesnid, but he didn't receive a gun, so he assumed Fwesnid was some other PR (i.e. not a GS) and proceeded to push him. However, when he was corrected he could not back track and admit he did get notified of the visit.

If MM knew all along how Fwesnid's role worked he would have probably claimed the visit as soon as he came in today to be safe. Alas, he didn't because he was counting on Fwesnid being pushed to either change his claim to the "real role" or being eliminated and flipping something other than GS.

Lol, this is wrong on two levels: the level of fitting with reality and the level of being coherent. Let's break it down...

Ah yes, by saying "A50 would not push Norwee like he did as scum, because noone would actually believe that case and it only puts him in a bad light, and he's not a newbie so he probably can't have made that mistake", I'm indirectly making you look scummy, right? That was sarcastic, by the way.

This first example is wrong on the level of fitting with reality (it simply is false, and a quick ISO of my posts about A50 will show that easily).

Unless he meant me pointing out that him assuming a roleblock on himself by the disloyal roleblocker, which was just me investigating a potential slip (although slips are rare), not "making him look scummy without pushing it". It's the town's job to investigate potentially scummy things.

Damn right,

I

wanted to push Fwesnid before knowing what a Gunsmith was. I did it, too, until someone (I think Jackson) pointed out my error about the Gunsmith role. Now, I have two issues with the accusation about this. The first issue is that not perfectly knowing the site's terminology (and assuming it's similar to the one used on other sites) isn't scummy, so your point is moot. The second and most important issue is that it's not coherent with the rest of your post: by admitting

I

have pushed Fwesnid, you are obviously excluding that I would be "making Fwesnid look scummy without pushing it myself".

As for the rest of the post, it becomes moot given the feedback I've recieved and shared 2 posts ago.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I think that's such a stretch. If we're wrong MM can just take out scum!Fwesnid on his way down and now it will also tell us a bit about the alignment of Flake and A50.

VOTE: Glitch

With the light of the feedback, this post looks pretty bad. From a town PoV, it'd be a poorly detailed position (and it's not that Glitch can't detail his position, he proved it during the Nero - Glitch fight). From a scum PoV, it'd be an easy lineup of two PR deaths that doesn't make him look bad and that gives him a justification to vote me and to support the vengekill on Fwesnid.

[shellyc]

3203 comes before 3041.
Gotcha!

whoopsies my mistake

my point about pointing E-1 being NAI still stands

[Marshmallow Marshall]

That looked like IIoA to me and I stand by that

just read the last 6 pages:
- MM claimed vengeful vigi
- Fwesnid checked him
- MM didn't recieve a loud PM

(This is about 2741, btw)

Uh no, it isn't IIoA to say that turbolynching shouldn't be a thing... But even if you actually think it is, you didn't say what it changed about your read on Siteflaking.

Reading through the last few pages Bell is town (being paranoid about a mod error and showing the right amount of emotion), Jackson is town (trying to find as many possibilities as possible)

This doesn't give any townpoints since that can easily be scum putting people in townreads as much as it can be town genuinely townreading people, but I completely agree with the content.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And now, listen guys. I'm very much confirmable as vigilante since I can shoot tonight. Let me confirm myself?

Fine. If you were lying then real vig would shoot you anyway.
VOTE: Glitch

[Hiraki]

I think that's such a stretch. If we're wrong MM can just take out scum!Fwesnid on his way down and now it will also tell us a bit about the alignment of Flake and A50.

VOTE: Glitch

With the light of the feedback, this post looks pretty bad. From a town PoV, it'd be a poorly detailed position (and it's not that Glitch can't detail his position, he proved it during the Nero - Glitch fight). From a scum PoV, it'd be an easy lineup of two PR deaths that doesn't make him look bad and that gives him a justification to vote me and to support the vengekill on Fwesnid.

half of your wagon was saying this

[I Keep Siteflaking]

3203 comes before 3041.
Gotcha!

whoopsies my mistake

my point about pointing E-1 being NAI still stands

Nah. I have already broken it.
If he wanted to look towny, why would he push MM after mod confirming there was a mistake? I am not saying that it makes MM town, but he claimed a

vigilante

. That is a self-resolvable role.
Asumming MM is town, scum!Glitch knows MM is town. Why then shade self-resolving role which can shoot you and which is not likely to get lynched today?

[I Keep Siteflaking]

Uh no, it isn't IIoA to say that turbolynching shouldn't be a thing... But even if you actually think it is, you didn't say what it changed about your read on Siteflaking.

It's IIoA and one IIoA post is totally NAI.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

And now, listen guys. I'm very much confirmable as vigilante since I can shoot tonight. Let me confirm myself?

Fine. If you were lying then real vig would shoot you anyway.
VOTE: Glitch

Exactly lol.

I think that's such a stretch. If we're wrong MM can just take out scum!Fwesnid on his way down and now it will also tell us a bit about the alignment of Flake and A50.

VOTE: Glitch

With the light of the feedback, this post looks pretty bad. From a town PoV, it'd be a poorly detailed position (and it's not that Glitch can't detail his position, he proved it during the Nero - Glitch fight). From a scum PoV, it'd be an easy lineup of two PR deaths that doesn't make him look bad and that gives him a justification to vote me and to support the vengekill on Fwesnid.

half of your wagon was saying this

Yes, but with a bit more effort and development. I'd let it slide if Glitch hadn't been that much of a wallposter and effortposter, but that's what he was yesterday.
I am also assuming that a rather large amount of scum were on my wagon here, since lining 2 PR deaths is pretty nice for them lol. So maybe not half my wagon, but a lot of people ^^

[superbowl9]

Uh no, it isn't IIoA to say that turbolynching shouldn't be a thing... But even if you actually think it is, you didn't say what it changed about your read on Siteflaking.

It's IIoA and one IIoA post is totally NAI.

Nah tha't s just I fam. Some information is actually good to post

[superbowl9]

UNVOTE:

[superbowl9]

I am also assuming that a rather large amount of scum were on my wagon here, since lining 2 PR deaths is pretty nice for them lol. So maybe not half my wagon, but a lot of people ^^

No no no this is bad. Pretty much everyone who read the game was on your wagon, if you wanna argue scum is more likely to be active thats one thing but if your wagon was 100% town I would not be surprised (not because of the names on the wagon, but because you were literally hard CCd by fwes)

[superbowl9]

It does make sense imo to go back to the original strat of bringing glitch to L-1 to get him to confirm, then elim like stan or someone if the confirm is good.

VOTE: Glitch

[superbowl9]

I think that's L-4 if anyone's interested - repeat we should not be hammering glitch before he does his confirm thing

[Titus]

VOTE: Glitch

Might as well vote Glitch while I am afk today.

[superbowl9]

Holy fuck ralph is right about everything. Also I'm starting to scumread Jackson pretty hard.