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[Venus Mars and Pluto]

@Nancy - there could be a janitor for your coroner ability still.

But there’s no evidence of a janitor so far?

You’re suggesting we coroner NM if he flips red?

~M

[BrightEyedFish]

You’re suggesting we coroner NM if he flips red?

~M

What information would we get that wouldn't be in the flip post? The other flips had the entire role PM.

[Flavor Leaf]

I guess i don’t know what coroner does. I thought it targets at night and if someone is janitored instead it’ll reveal them

[BrightEyedFish]

From the wiki:

"A Coroner is a role that can target a dead player to discern information about them, typically serving as a counter to No Reveal mechanics."

[Flavor Leaf]

Coroner was the evidence of janitor when i thought that’s what it did

[BrightEyedFish]

Coroner was the evidence of janitor when i thought that’s what it did

Yeah but if NM is janitored then we wouldn't get his alignment right?

[Flavor Leaf]

From the wiki:

"A Coroner is a role that can target a dead player to discern information about them, typically serving as a counter to No Reveal mechanics."

Right. Scum probably have a flipless thing about them which means if they’re flipless in my medium, they can still push the game in a certain direction.

Nothing confirmed, I’m just speculating. I’ll stop.

[Flavor Leaf]

Coroner was the evidence of janitor when i thought that’s what it did

Yeah but if NM is janitored then we wouldn't get his alignment right?

I wasn’t talking about NM being janitored. I’m just talking overall.

[Flavor Leaf]

They thought their role was useless, i was just comforting the Nance.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also i have no idea what “iow” or “ftt” mean

[BrightEyedFish]

From the wiki:

"A Coroner is a role that can target a dead player to discern information about them, typically serving as a counter to No Reveal mechanics."

Right. Scum probably have a flipless thing about them which means if they’re flipless in my medium, they can still push the game in a certain direction.

Nothing confirmed, I’m just speculating. I’ll stop.

Maybe, but DnD flipped. Also, I just checked his flip post again. There was nothing about a Scum PT in there. But this too is just speculation at this point

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The Devil

You are a 1 shot action negator/mailman sided with with the Mafia

Abilities:

The first action used on your target won't work in the event more than one action is used on your target negitive actions take priority
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[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I’m actually seriously thinking that would scum!DnD really go out of their way to position a buddy like they did Gamma? Lillith is extremely smart and I don’t think she positions a buddy like she did Gamma.

FL’s role casts doubt on the Amy/Tris hood being real if true I think because his role is that powerful and I think that Amy might have possibly slipped with the 4 scum thing.

FL’s role if true, definitely makes that seem a lot more likely and if scum is informed like they were in UtS and they actually knew of my role’s existence, then my current suspicion is on the hood.

BEF/KD/jjh super obvtown. Hya/Pepper mech confitown. Gamma seems way too obvious. Lillith is just too smart to position Gamma that way.

~Mars

[BrightEyedFish]

Also i have no idea what “iow” or “ftt” mean

iow is in other words I think.

ftt, not for sure.

[Flavor Leaf]

My double vote also gives town more power, so 4 weaker scum is possible, but I dont really wanna use that that much against Ampharos, because I have seen town do that before, and I’ll be biased with it since I already scum read Ampharos.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Also i have no idea what “iow” or “ftt” mean

in other words. Can you link or quote the post for the second?

ftr=for the record, att=at the time

~M

[Flavor Leaf]

Let alone that it makes no sense that you can't talk to them during the day which is whne the supposed 2nd vote for the dead would make sense.
FTT I have been a medium before and could talk during the day just fine (albeit this isn't really proof of anything)

~Venus

[Flavor Leaf]

I get what it means based on context clues, I just wanted to figure out what it meant and couldnt

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m actually seriously thinking that would scum!DnD really go out of their way to position a buddy like they did Gamma? Lillith is extremely smart and I don’t think she positions a buddy like she did Gamma.

Not sure what you mean here.

I specifically remember saying “DnD and Gamma are most likely not both scum”. Paraphrased

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: BrightEyedFish for not scumhunting in his first post

VOTE: Tris for being an enemy of fun

Btw I’m the mafia

Tris/Gamma?

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

My double vote also gives town more power, so 4 weaker scum is possible, but I dont really wanna use that that much against Ampharos, because I have seen town do that before, and I’ll be biased with it since I already scum read Ampharos.

Well, a hood claim especially if informed, would be a perfect setup for scum to make. DnD just went so out of their way to make Gamma look like a buddy, that it probably means he’s town. I think they were trying to set up a chainsaw with me and Gamma.

Now if we were talking newbscum, it definitely would point to Gamma but DnD aren’t so DnD’s extreme interest in Tris and positioning of Amy look suspicious and why does scum!Gamma point out how it makes Amy TMI? It actually doesn’t. Only truly TMI’d town slot is KD because of how DnD immediately changed their Amy read to align with KD‘s.

~Mars

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Let alone that it makes no sense that you can't talk to them during the day which is whne the supposed 2nd vote for the dead would make sense.
FTT I have been a medium before and could talk during the day just fine (albeit this isn't really proof of anything)

~Venus

Oh, I’m guessing that’s a typo. For the record.

~M

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I don’t know.

I’ll wait until Not Mafia flips to see if I’m wrong, but I just feel like there was too much scum pushing for NM to be killed for him to flip scum here.

I did go back and ISO Gamma, and they did get stuck upon not having their vote show up for a while, and the vote was supposed to be on DnD.

[Flavor Leaf]

I just don’t like the way Gamma buddied up to me hard the majority of Day 1/day 2, but i felt, even before this whole thing with the claims happened, Gamma was already floundering because they had to change the gamestate.

I brought this up when I dropped them in my reads list way back when.

[Flavor Leaf]

I didn’t like the hammer right when they did it either because I was getting ready to vote. I had just claimed my role too, so it actively stopped me from being able to add Hayasaka (set up for it anyways) or DrP.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I’m actually seriously thinking that would scum!DnD really go out of their way to position a buddy like they did Gamma? Lillith is extremely smart and I don’t think she positions a buddy like she did Gamma.

Not sure what you mean here.

I specifically remember saying “DnD and Gamma are most likely not both scum”. Paraphrased

I’m saying with the whole way DnD interacted with BEF was designed to make Gamma look like a buddy, because they were so freaking obvious about it. Remember I quoted multiple posts about that. It’s just too over the top for Gamma to be a DnD buddy.

And what two person hood outs on D freaking 1 anyhow? And both were onboard with that. And then there was that ridiculous vote on us because Shiro didn’t explain the “Hi” post. How is that a townie thought ever?

~M