FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)

Cabd · Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:50 pm

Vote Count D1-1 (Second Elimination)

With 13 players alive, it will take 7 votes to eliminate a player.

Phase Page Usage: 15/60

Day one will end in: 7 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes

Servant Shielder · Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:50 pm

i feel like i wasnt ever very good at town, so apologies since it seems that hasnt changed since playing mafia again. please do message me postgame and offer coaching. advice, feedback, and criticism will be well-received. well i think my reads are generally ok, but most people strongly scumread me when i play town.

Servant Foreigner · Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:50 pm

In post 1524, Servant Avenger wrote:Town can be wrong, but the shielder wagon was not led by scum.

It is now.

VOTE: Shielder

Servant Alter Ego · Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:51 pm

Archer unvoting and then hammer-voting really ramped up my gamespec paranoia.

I'm liking Beast a lot more this phase.

Servant Beast · Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:51 pm

VOTE: Caster

Why not?

I kind of like shielder anyway

Servant Moon Cancer · Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:51 pm

I think Berserker is referring to Archer's vote when she says "led by scum" (even though Archer wasn't leading it).

(And Archer's vote there doesn't make me think "wow, definitely not distancing" either.)

Servant Shielder · Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:51 pm

In post 1527, Servant Foreigner wrote:
In post 1524, Servant Avenger wrote:Town can be wrong, but the shielder wagon was not led by scum.
It is now.

VOTE: Shielder

it is now led by scum?

Servant Foreigner · Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:52 pm

In post 1513, Servant Shielder wrote:some of you may have noticed that i was not on the archer wagon. i could have been on the archer wagon, but had i been those of you inclined to think im scum would have thought i was simply bussing.
I dont think there was much to be learned from me being on the wagon, so i sat it out (despite it being on someone i stated a scumread on pretty early)
. whats interesting is who else was off-wagon. i think the elim was kinda inevitable so scum could easily have bussed, yet most of my scumreads were off-wagon. interesting.

Town don't think this.

Servant Moon Cancer · Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:52 pm

Oh wait, I keep forgetting Berserker thinks Caster is scum. Never mind what I just wrote.

Servant Avenger · Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:53 pm

In post 1526, Servant Shielder wrote:i feel like i wasnt ever very good at town, so apologies since it seems that hasnt changed since playing mafia again. please do message me postgame and offer coaching. advice, feedback, and criticism will be well-received. well i think my reads are generally ok, but most people strongly scumread me when i play town.

Oh.
You're self aware.

Servant Shielder · Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:53 pm

day 0 i felt strongly that caster was scum. day 1 i felt kinda weakly that caster might be town. im not sure how i feel about placing a vote on caster atm. definitely not my first choice, id prefer to go for someone like rider.

Servant Berserker · Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:54 pm

Shielder was setup as a defacto vote for Day 1 through the entire master voting phase. That setup was done by scum. Archer participated in it.

WE ARE NEVER DOING SHIELDER TODAY NO MATTER HOW BAD THEY LOOK.

Shielder is not a vote we even begin to CONSIDER until after Day 2. After Day 3, even, depending on how many scum we murder.

Servant Berserker · Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:54 pm

In post 1534, Servant Avenger wrote:
In post 1526, Servant Shielder wrote:i feel like i wasnt ever very good at town, so apologies since it seems that hasnt changed since playing mafia again. please do message me postgame and offer coaching. advice, feedback, and criticism will be well-received. well i think my reads are generally ok, but most people strongly scumread me when i play town.
Oh.
You're self aware.

LIKE DUH

THEY HAVE 0 FILTER.

HOW OBVIOUS IS THIS?

Servant Shielder · Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:55 pm

In post 1532, Servant Foreigner wrote:
In post 1513, Servant Shielder wrote:some of you may have noticed that i was not on the archer wagon. i could have been on the archer wagon, but had i been those of you inclined to think im scum would have thought i was simply bussing.
I dont think there was much to be learned from me being on the wagon, so i sat it out (despite it being on someone i stated a scumread on pretty early)
. whats interesting is who else was off-wagon. i think the elim was kinda inevitable so scum could easily have bussed, yet most of my scumreads were off-wagon. interesting.
Town don't think this.

town dont think strategically? it didnt matter one iota whether or not i was on that wagon. i dont see why me explaining my reasoning should suddenly make it scummy either.

Servant Foreigner · Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:55 pm

Adding multiple levels of self awareness doesn't magically make it townie. Scum bait out experience levels all the time on anon accounts, and I feel the only argument in his favor is his scummy actions are a result of a lack of experience.

If it was a stupid thought process that bad players actually think, sure why not. But no one goes "haha time to not vote my scum read because it won't breed good information".

Servant Shielder · Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:55 pm

In post 1537, Servant Berserker wrote:
In post 1534, Servant Avenger wrote:
In post 1526, Servant Shielder wrote:i feel like i wasnt ever very good at town, so apologies since it seems that hasnt changed since playing mafia again. please do message me postgame and offer coaching. advice, feedback, and criticism will be well-received. well i think my reads are generally ok, but most people strongly scumread me when i play town.
Oh.
You're self aware.
LIKE DUH

THEY HAVE 0 FILTER.

HOW OBVIOUS IS THIS?

actually this is only true as town. i generally play better when im being widely scumread anyway

Servant Beast · Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:56 pm

In post 1535, Servant Shielder wrote:day 0 i felt strongly that caster was scum. day 1 i felt kinda weakly that caster might be town. im not sure how i feel about placing a vote on caster atm. definitely not my first choice, id prefer to go for someone like rider.

You make me want to pay you on the head and say "Oh honey..." In a reassuring motherly voice everytime you post.

Just join your counter wagon like a good puppy

Servant Rider · Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:56 pm

In post 1535, Servant Shielder wrote:day 0 i felt strongly that caster was scum. day 1 i felt kinda weakly that caster might be town. im not sure how i feel about placing a vote on caster atm. definitely not my first choice, id prefer to go for someone like rider.

Servant Shielder · Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:56 pm

In post 1539, Servant Foreigner wrote:Adding multiple levels of self awareness doesn't magically make it townie. Scum bait out experience levels all the time on anon accounts, and I feel the only argument in his favor is his scummy actions are a result of a lack of experience.

If it was a stupid thought process that bad players actually think, sure why not. But no one goes "haha time to not vote my scum read because it won't breed good information".

well you'd be right if the archer elim wasnt inevitable. if we were in the scumhunting phase then my vote should be on scummy people. but archer was getting elimed there 100%. so it doesnt really matter whether i vote there or not.

Servant Berserker · Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:57 pm

In post 1539, Servant Foreigner wrote:Adding multiple levels of self awareness doesn't magically make it townie. Scum bait out experience levels all the time on anon accounts, and I feel the only argument in his favor is his scummy actions are a result of a lack of experience.

If it was a stupid thought process that bad players actually think, sure why not. But no one goes "haha time to not vote my scum read because it won't breed good information".

You don't think the non-confident townie who is super worried about fucking up isn't constantly thinking about how to not look scummy, and then bringing it up asking if that was okay to do!?!

YOU THINK THAT PATTERN MATCHES WRONG? YOU THINK THAT'S SCUM, REALLY?

God.

Servant Foreigner · Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:57 pm

In post 1538, Servant Shielder wrote:town dont think strategically? it didnt matter one iota whether or not i was on that wagon. i dont see why me explaining my reasoning should suddenly make it scummy either.

What was the gain?

Information is a really vague term and feels more like a buzz word then anything else. What do you think of the people on the wagon and why does 1 more vote make a difference in order to help you sort.

Servant Berserker · Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:57 pm

In post 1541, Servant Beast wrote:
In post 1535, Servant Shielder wrote:day 0 i felt strongly that caster was scum. day 1 i felt kinda weakly that caster might be town. im not sure how i feel about placing a vote on caster atm. definitely not my first choice, id prefer to go for someone like rider.
You make me want to pay you on the head and say "Oh honey..." In a reassuring motherly voice everytime you post.

Just join your counter wagon like a good puppy

omg you UNDERSTAND

SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS

Servant Avenger · Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:58 pm

In post 1536, Servant Berserker wrote:Shielder was setup as a defacto vote for Day 1 through the entire master voting phase. That setup was done by scum. Archer participated in it.

WE ARE NEVER DOING SHIELDER TODAY NO MATTER HOW BAD THEY LOOK.

Shielder is not a vote we even begin to CONSIDER until after Day 2. After Day 3, even, depending on how many scum we murder.

Sure, there are other scum to find.
I don't think the scum team are team players tbh. Archer was pretty much left to rot.

Servant Berserker · Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:59 pm

In post 1547, Servant Avenger wrote:
In post 1536, Servant Berserker wrote:Shielder was setup as a defacto vote for Day 1 through the entire master voting phase. That setup was done by scum. Archer participated in it.

WE ARE NEVER DOING SHIELDER TODAY NO MATTER HOW BAD THEY LOOK.

Shielder is not a vote we even begin to CONSIDER until after Day 2. After Day 3, even, depending on how many scum we murder.
Sure, there are other scum to find.
I don't think the scum team are team players tbh. Archer was pretty much left to rot.

I think Caster-Archer interactions are exactly what I expect from this scum team. I've been thinking it since yesterday and I really think there's some distancing going on and I just

I wanna see Caster die, tbh

Servant Foreigner · Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:59 pm

In post 1544, Servant Berserker wrote:You don't think the non-confident townie who is super worried about fucking up isn't constantly thinking about how to not look scummy, and then bringing it up asking if that was okay to do!?!

YOU THINK THAT PATTERN MATCHES WRONG? YOU THINK THAT'S SCUM, REALLY?

God.

I mean it wasn't about looking scummy it was about gaining "information". And I am not sure what information they were trying to gain.

People bait out experience levels in anon games all the time.
Not sure why you think an experienced player couldn't fake something like that.

I don't think that's a thought process someone has, which isn't even related to the other issue of how scummy it is.