Mini Theme 2158: Cards of Destiny Mafia Game Over

[Flavor Leaf]

I didn’t want to say it yesterday, but in no world did I think VMP was actually going to be shot at.

There aren’t enough roles claimed yet, and if there’s a protective on town, then by no means was VMP going to be shot at.

You are omitting details almost purposefully, I feel.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like more what I am communicating is, I think it should always be Tris.
And most of the time also be Gamma.

What target makes Gamma both clear and Tris inno?
I think none idk.

I think Gamma self redirected to a town.
And I saw 2 people who didn't interact with each other.

If Gamma bounced with Amy my track would see Gamma and I would see 2 targets.

I literally claimed a modifier that DIDN’T ALLOW ME to act last night
Are you saying I’m lying? Because I said why lying made no sense, my role has similar function to Amphy’s, and odd-night means whenever I can’t act she can and vice versa.

@Gamma they’re actually doing the opposite. They think there’s no chance you are lying, and I don’t like that at all.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why does gamma have to have interacted with them at all?

Gamma is clear via the cop role?
Or am I wrong on that.

He easily could have bus driven themselves onto one of the others. I don’t know why you’re straight up believing Odd-Night.

[Hayasaka]

I literally claimed a modifier that DIDN’T ALLOW ME to act last night
Are you saying I’m lying? Because I said why lying made no sense, my role has similar function to Amphy’s, and odd-night means whenever I can’t act she can and vice versa.

I am saying whether or not you are lying Tris is scum so I don't care?
Why are you offended I am considering both worlds lol.

[Hayasaka]

He easily could have bus driven themselves onto one of the others. I don’t know why you’re straight up believing Odd-Night.

Because if he self redirected onto a player without a hood.
Then we know both neighbors were not a target of the bus driver.
Meaning my result can be taken at face value.


What part of this is me missing obvious mechanics?

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact that odd night got claimed after the even night flip and that Gamma was late to this party makes me feel Gamma is scum, possibly with Hayasaka.

Hayasaka came back after Gamma was getting hit by us.

[Hayasaka]

Like you keep saying I am missing obvious mechanics.
But you aren't spelling out to me the world in which my result happens with a scum gamma.

And I am spelling out to you how it doesn't happen.

[Flavor Leaf]

I literally claimed a modifier that DIDN’T ALLOW ME to act last night
Are you saying I’m lying? Because I said why lying made no sense, my role has similar function to Amphy’s, and odd-night means whenever I can’t act she can and vice versa.

I am saying whether or not you are lying Tris is scum so I don't care?
Why are you offended I am considering both worlds lol.

How? Even if Tris is scum, Ampharos being shot at isn’t out of the question.

I would say if you’re town, Tris is about 70% scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like you keep saying I am missing obvious mechanics.
But you aren't spelling out to me the world in which my result happens with a scum gamma.

And I am spelling out to you how it doesn't happen.

No you are not. You are actively ignoring the fact that Ampharos could have just been shot and killed.

[Hayasaka]

Like how is Tris being framed I guess?
The only arguments you are laying out is Gamma is scum lying.

But then my result isn't interfered with.

I am not saying Gamma is clear I am saying Tris is scum regardless of Gamma's alignment since his bus drive was tied up defending himself.

[Hayasaka]

No you are not. You are actively ignoring the fact that Ampharos could have just been shot and killed.

You're right scum don't kill cops, they kill neighbors....

[Flavor Leaf]

Ampharos, if town, was exactly who I expected to be night killed because they already were gonna have access into my medium.

[Flavor Leaf]

No you are not. You are actively ignoring the fact that Ampharos could have just been shot and killed.

You're right scum don't kill cops, they kill neighbors....

The cop is dead. Nancy is a TA who claimed their target in advance

[Gamma Emerald]

VMP you did target Gamma last night right?

Apparently they did but have come up with the BS idea that I “didn’t post in the scum PT” last night which is absolutely idiotic given what I enjoy about this game nowadays

[Flavor Leaf]

Like how is Tris being framed I guess?
The only arguments you are laying out is Gamma is scum lying.

But then my result isn't interfered with.

I am not saying Gamma is clear I am saying Tris is scum regardless of Gamma's alignment since his bus drive was tied up defending himself.

I don’t think your result is interfered with. Ampharos probably targeted Tris.

Why does that confirm Tris?

Scum could have just been shooting at Ampharos.

[Gamma Emerald]

I literally claimed a modifier that DIDN’T ALLOW ME to act last night
Are you saying I’m lying? Because I said why lying made no sense, my role has similar function to Amphy’s, and odd-night means whenever I can’t act she can and vice versa.

I am saying whether or not you are lying Tris is scum so I don't care?
Why are you offended I am considering both worlds lol.

tbh your post just confused me

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Why? I feel Ampharos was being town read heavily, i don’t understand why people think they weren’t going to get killed?

If Gamma is claiming Odd night.
Can someone explain to me the outcome he comes up both inno here and Tris is scum.

Please do not use the following statement "scum shot Amy" in that explanation.

Why can’t scum have shot Ampharos?

I don’t understand. They were likely the top town read and the person I was pushing.

I tr them but they were not even close to my top town reads: They were KD, BEF, Hya and jjh > Amy. I even asked Tris not to reveal anything I posted there to Amy because I was still slightly paranoid of her, especially after Tris told me that she claimed Lovers first and of course you were in my head with Gampharous, which confitms why I thought they didn’t make sense as buddies.

But we know what she flipped and scum!Tris would have to be insane to directly target her, so I really don’t understand how you’re arriving at that conclusion that it wasn’t literally her role and NA that got her killed. She made more than a few posts expressing her suspicions on Tris, so I think it fits.

The only thing I’m still confused on how does Hya know it’s impossible that Gamma didn’t BD her. I know you’ve already explained that @Hya but you you explain how that’s impossible? Thanks.

~M

[Hayasaka]

I mean whatever I guess?
I feel like you are being contrarian because you can given you have scum read Tris literally all game.

And I don't feel like arguing why scum would shoot the claimed power of the neighbor further because apparently scum in your game think they can beat roles with day play.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m arguing semantics here, I know, and by no means do I ever feel Tris should live past Day 4, but the fact Hayasaka is saying all this and completely ignoring facts is concerning.

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean whatever I guess?
I feel like you are being contrarian because you can given you have scum read Tris literally all game.

And I don't feel like arguing why scum would shoot the claimed power of the neighbor further because apparently scum in your game think they can beat roles with day play.

Ampharos was a claimed Even-Night PR and the most town read player in the game with a lot of town leader qualities.

In what world are they are wtf kill

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean whatever I guess?
I feel like you are being contrarian because you can given you have scum read Tris literally all game.

And I don't feel like arguing why scum would shoot the claimed power of the neighbor further because apparently scum in your game think they can beat roles with day play.

Ampharos was a claimed Even-Night PR and the most town read player in the game with a lot of town leader qualities.

In what world are they are wtf kill

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

VMP you did target Gamma last night right?

Yes, Maria confirmed it.

~M

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: 1 Hayasaka
VOTE: 2 Hayasaka

This is scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why? I feel Ampharos was being town read heavily, i don’t understand why people think they weren’t going to get killed?

If Gamma is claiming Odd night.
Can someone explain to me the outcome he comes up both inno here and Tris is scum.

Please do not use the following statement "scum shot Amy" in that explanation.

Why can’t scum have shot Ampharos?

I don’t understand. They were likely the top town read and the person I was pushing.

I tr them but they were not even close to my top town reads: They were KD, BEF, Hya and jjh > Amy. I even asked Tris not to reveal anything I posted there to Amy because I was still slightly paranoid of her, especially after Tris told me that she claimed Lovers first and of course you were in my head with Gampharous, which confitms why I thought they didn’t make sense as buddies.

But we know what she flipped and scum!Tris would have to be insane to directly target her, so I really don’t understand how you’re arriving at that conclusion that it wasn’t literally her role and NA that got her killed. She made more than a few posts expressing her suspicions on Tris, so I think it fits.

The only thing I’m still confused on how does Hya know it’s impossible that Gamma didn’t BD her. I know you’ve already explained that @Hya but you you explain how that’s impossible? Thanks.

~M

This is not what I’m questioning at all.

Ampharos targeted Tris, this is fine.

Hypothetical ScumKD killing Ampharos is a possibility (among others, KD just came to my head first)

[Flavor Leaf]

What am I missing here?