Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

[Prism]

Can people elaborate on why they think Hectic will be a harder slot to resolve than beeboy? I'm really not opposed to fighting beeboy, but this assumption that Hectic will be an easier read later puzzles me.

Cat, why are me/Tanner up there?

[Prism]

If it's not clear, by the way, I'm planning to vote beeboy unless there's a change in the winds.

[Hectic]

Tbf I don't think beeboy is terribly difficult to read, he's capable of being very obvtown at times. I just want to FIGHT him because Ele did a good amount of scum-indicative stuff.

[Hectic]

Only seen 1 scumgame of his though.

[catboi]

Can people elaborate on why they think Hectic will be a harder slot to resolve than beeboy? I'm really not opposed to fighting beeboy, but this assumption that Hectic will be an easier read later puzzles me.

Cat, why are me/Tanner up there?

>_> Would you accept if I said "gut"? ...I assume not. But I see you both as consistently scumhunting and reading critically, really

looking

at what people say, you know? It's not a hard tell of a single post but just a general feeling spread across your entire posting.

[Tanner]

I think I'm just going to try and use the Not Chara flip to get me back into the swing of solving maybe, then I'll have something to focus on

i relate to this on a spiritual level

on the surface level i like the idea behind "everyone puts out readslists so we can hunt associates post-flip" but like... (1) that's effort and (2) when you phrase it like that, scum knows we're gonna be looking into it tomorrow and will probably make it so getting info from it is harder and stuff. if everyone starts doing it i'll join because peer pressure and i'm Not Not Chara (oshit a double negative) anyway so it doesn't matter, but. effort. :<

also i was gonna like... vote beeboy or something but i dunno the VC and we wouldn't want a lolhammer now would we

pedit: i was interested in that answer by catboi, and i'm kinda confused by it? because i feel like i haven't "really looked" at what whoever said for at least 3 days now?

[Tanner]

oh yeah, i just realized that if the wagon is on X-1 and Not Chara isn't on it and it's on a townie they will *probably* hammer it so treat X-2 as X-1 i guess

[catboi]

When I looked back at you last night you didn't appear to be coasting. Your critique of hectic around lavender was sensible. I had an issue with how he evaluated her but didn't take it as far as you did. One of those things where it muddles my feelings on him because I read his stuff and gut says town but then you guys come in and say stuff that makes sense as to why he's suspect. へ‿(ツ)‿ㄏ

[Morning Tweet]

I think I'm just going to try and use the Not Chara flip to get me back into the swing of solving maybe, then I'll have something to focus on

i relate to this on a spiritual level

on the surface level i like the idea behind "everyone puts out readslists so we can hunt associates post-flip" but like... (1) that's effort and (2) when you phrase it like that, scum knows we're gonna be looking into it tomorrow and will probably make it so getting info from it is harder and stuff.

I thought about this too actually. But like, it's giving reads. Scum already would have known and played as if we're going to look into the reads of dead scum -- there's nothing special about this proposal or this game

Except that it reminds people to hurry up and state their reads. Cause for one Not Chara, they may be out of time and we wanna milk it before we lose them

I guess they're going to be even more conscious of their reads than usual but tbh fine with me

[Morning Tweet]

UNVOTE:

no getting out of this one easy Not Chara (>ω<)

[catboi]

That doesn't work, fyi, you need to use the hurt tags and hurt the mod or no one

[Morning Tweet]

HURT: Isis

i knew that

[Lavender]

Ugh, dunno what to do right now. orz

[catboi]

Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑) trying to figure out who would actually make sense as being teamed with the elements slot and it's, like...lavender, taylor, redtea, or

I guess

Prism and that's it. Hrm.

[catboi]

Ugh, dunno what to do right now. orz

I know you're unsure about everyone in this game, but if you had to pick one person in this game you're most sure of, good or bad, who would you choose and why?

[Hectic]

Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑) trying to figure out who would actually make sense as being teamed with the elements slot and it's, like...lavender, taylor, redtea, or

I guess

Prism and that's it. Hrm.

I don't think scum can reasonably defend Ele here without looking very bad down the line for whenever that slot flips.

[Hectic]

(In the Ele scum world)

[Prism]

Cat read makes no sense past the "gut" point

Hectic wants to vote someone who can can obvown at any time because of Elements' friendly tone

I can't say that I like where this is heading

[Hectic]

He's capable of obvtowning when town, doesn't mean he can "obvtown any time". Also, Ele isn't just scum for "friendly tone".

[Prism]

It's a bit of a strawman but I think you understand why I reduced it to that and why I'm concerned

[Hectic]

Meh, beeboy hasn't done anything to change my mind on the slot and I think my reasons on Ele are solid.

[catboi]

Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑) trying to figure out who would actually make sense as being teamed with the elements slot and it's, like...lavender, taylor, redtea, or

I guess

Prism and that's it. Hrm.

I don't think scum can reasonably defend Ele here without looking very bad down the line for whenever that slot flips.

Well I'm more trying to look at the picture of how the day progressed and who seems unlikely to be paired with elements. If I could cross a couple more of those names out I'd say well he can't be paired with anyone, but as it is, not enough to do that.

Cat read makes no sense past the "gut" point

Maybe I should just...not fucking try to explain things anymore??

[catboi]

like I don't REALLY want to go back and cite specific posts and say what I liked to justify thinking you're town that just seems like a huge waste of time

[Chara]

Can people elaborate on why they think Hectic will be a harder slot to resolve than beeboy? I'm really not opposed to fighting beeboy, but this assumption that Hectic will be an easier read later puzzles me.

Cat, why are me/Tanner up there?

i have more of an idea of how to read Hectic than beeboy, who i have zero idea on.
i will also echo that Elements/beeboy's play does not give me townie feelings, so "readability" is not the reason for my vote.

and i hope you're alright, beeboy.

[Chara]

Cat read makes no sense past the "gut" point

Hectic wants to vote someone who can can obvown at any time because of Elements' friendly tone

I can't say that I like where this is heading

what do you mean by this post? it's not clicking for me, besides that you don't think kitty's read makes sense.