reborn537 wrote:Somewhat OMGUS, Adel. I am comfortable with an HC lynch, though. Despite the fact that most people have counted me as one of the more confirmed members of the town since day 1 he's continued to cast doubt on me constantly, particularly about the CR thing, ignoring totally the fact that I handily lynched him yesterday. I just think he's annoyed at me because I got there before he could bus him.
Um, I haven't continued to cast doubt on you at all, unless you're considering a post pointing out something I didn't like "the whole game". In fact, I was the first person to point out that your premature claim was such a horrible play that it meant you were almost definitely town.
For the record, here's how I see the game:
Mafia = Adel, goborage, and CR.
SK = EA
Town = Reborn, Lowell, and myself.
Not one person has explained why we would have both Adel's claimed role and a gunsmith in the game when all of the confirmed powerroles we've seen have owned guns. We had two players claim non-vanilla roles that were in no way related to guns. CR was lying about his role. Adel is lying about her role. Adel ALREADY lied about her role. Adel admitted that it was in the scum's best interest to claim last, and then she manipulated her claim so effectively SHE claimed last. She has been subtly trying to get the town's eye off of her using tactics such as listing herself as "confirmed town" and trying to limit discussion to the players who claimed vanilla. When you combine an unlikely role with scummy actions, you get probable Mafia. At least, that's what I got, and the only rebuttal to this theory that's came from anybody other than Adel was EA presenting a strawman of my case. I am voting Adel.
I will not move my vote for the rest of the day.
Seriously, reread Adel.
I haven't even commented on Quagmire pushing for reborn's lynch on Day 1.
On to goborage. Remember how discussion on Day 1 centered around CR and chenhsi? goborage mentioned CR ONE time on Day 1, and that was to agree with a comment CR made about EA. On Day Two, right after Adel and I made a ton of posts going back and forth, what did gobo have to say about that exchange?
goborage wrote:Sorry about the lack of posting.
I have problems with some of the power role claims. Lowell, Guzame, and Farkshin are all lacking PM flavour. Just quote the PM and replace some words with synonyms or something.
Farkshin's claim seems to corroborate with reborn's (and Guzame's which unfortunately is lacking in flavour as well) but I'm questioning the utility of such a role. What is it's purpose?
I'm not crazy about CWR's claim either but an ambiguous text is at least interesting. Wouldn't we need a doc for a nurse to work?
Out of the vanillas, I'd say EA is the scummiest. His D1 play was almost entirely devoid of scum-hunting. D2 isn't much better. The whole asking Chenhsi a question and not receiving an answer strikes me as scummy. Just asking someone a question is not scum-hunting. It may look that way but if you aren't pressuring them to answer then it's pretty much useless and really just for show.
And please enlighten us with your thoughts on Chenhsi. If you really had a plan all along then town will be glad to hear it.
Huh. He doesn't mention the Adel-HC debate at all, despite the fact that it had been a prominant feature of the previous two pages. He throws in token suspicion of CR's claim, but he reserves his greatest suspicion for Lowell, Guzame, and Farkshin because
they didn't post flavor
. When he says "[he] has a problem with some of the power role claims", he apparently means "all of them except for Adel."
If you have arrived at the conclusion that Adel is Mafia, which I have, then goborage is almost certainly her partner.
As for EA being the Serial Killer: I'm not SK, and reborn's not SK. That leaves Lowell and EA as candidates. A Serial Killer needs to survive until endgame. Lowell's claim makes it likely that he gets offed before endgame, which is a situation that the SK would not want to place themselves it. This seems to indicate Lowell is not the SK. Also, I mentioned earlier how killing Guzame was a horrible move for the SK. Based on the experience records of Lowell and EA, I find it easier to see EA making such a mistake. Ergo, EA = SK.
