The Trials - ENDGAME

[shellyc]

also this is my 3rd game with shelly but that's the only person I know I think

VOTE: Plusjoy

there we go

[shellyc]

Did you make this account just for this game? Does the c stand for Consigliere? That's just the type of bold move I'd expect scum to make.

yesterday someone told me that the c stood for Cult Leader...

time to make an alt I guess

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nah I didn't say I could be a CL, I was pointing out that the c caused much confusion and I should get an alt
continuing with this logic it could start with anything beginning with c.

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I didn't deliberately want to avoid it.

I did not design this account specifically for this game - look at my signature for all my finished games

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mostly joking. more likely its shelly carrot-top or something like that.

lmaoooo

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tbh pob asking specifically about BM is kinda weird

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I can definitely see taylor / nos there trying to quickhammer

i don't like 45 at all

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Why are you pointing me to your signature? Is there a town or scum game you want me to examine there to compare to this game?

To prove that I have played games on this account, and therefore have not created this specifically for this game

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I'm with pob on this one. Quickhammer? What?

they quickly voted in succession, seemingly forcing the vote to go closer to E-1 and a townie might accidentally hammer the vote.

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initial impressions

leia seems pretty town for questioning my username, making pushes and generally trying to get a foothold in the game.
taylor scumpings but this is a gut read
gypyx has been decently logical and trying to solve which is NAI at this stage
BM sending self to trial is bleh I think it leans scum since town wouldn't want to go on trial tbh

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shelly, why are you at the bottom of this votecount?

because im last on the plist...

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I like Leia's posting mindset - the right amount of town paranoia

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Gypyx's responses give me the vibe of scum being cornered tbh

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does this come off as genuine paranoia to you, shelly?

it does.

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wow the fluffposting

scum should def go on trial, exactly like how we want to lim scum

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elaboration of 126 - i didn't especially like the tone of the responses to leia's questions which were mostly fluff.

plus talk to me

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Actually, imo it's a bit of a towntell. Assuming maf has day chat, wouldn't the mafia buddies freak out in the PT and make him take it back? But he didn't really. Granted maf could just not care or be inacive as they don't think it'll go anywhere, so it's a pretty weak towntell. But i think its a towntell nonetheless

this is wifomy

this is a bit like "scum will never vote scumbuddies"

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I semi-forgot about this game.

I need to stop forgetting about stuff, can someone give me a tl;dr with the 6 new pages

also replacements don't just happen for inactivity, force-replacement is a way to solve a compromised slot but you're not supposed to discuss replacements anyways

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@Mod V/LA until Sunday EST

so yeah hoping there won't be too much to catch up on

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initial impressions

plusjoy is probably scum here like tbh this is a serious read, for 1) reasons I cant talk about and 2) town!plus does solve despite the solves might not being correct, plus is very agreeable here or am I just paranoid about you

don't like taylor's posting feels very forced

pob long is nullish scum to me, weird flexes and their posting confuses me

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plusjoy you posted after me. who sheeped who?

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VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

I hate the opening. Shading me opportunistically is super scummy. I don’t care if you call this OMGUS because I think shading me isn’t pro town at all at this point

I don’t think my listing of reads is fake and pointless. They are initial impressions and I’m still gutreading people atm

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I semi-forgot about this game.

I need to stop forgetting about stuff, can someone give me a tl;dr with the 6 new pages

also replacements don't just happen for inactivity, force-replacement is a way to solve a compromised slot but you're not supposed to discuss replacements anyways

initial impressions

plusjoy is probably scum here like tbh this is a serious read, for 1) reasons I cant talk about and 2) town!plus does solve despite the solves might not being correct, plus is very agreeable here or am I just paranoid about you

don't like taylor's posting feels very forced

pob long is nullish scum to me, weird flexes and their posting confuses me

Do you have a town read?

Townleaning fidget and Titus. Titus reaction test is pretty indica to ice of a solving mindset and fidgets posting gives me a good vibe (this is more gut)

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By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.

There was no "scumslip" at all. I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely. Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.

I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.

Vecna is well Vecna.

VOTE: Fidget

Why does your VCA always implicate me? It's astounding to me that you've suspected me in every game we've ever played together, except for the one I was scum in.

Fidget and Titus crossvote feels town vs town since I feel like fidget react is town

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Fidget where did you learn that I crushed town in Newbie 2019?

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shit bros my mafia processing power is having trouble booting im in too many games
i do think pete is sus though UNVOTE:
VOTE: pete

this is close to a prodge

there's a noticable difference between town!plus and this read-sheeping which doesn't indicate a town mindset at all

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"Girls you're both pretty" or "it's town vs. town" is more likely to come from scum than from town.

I'm not afraid to TR people. You shouldn't scumread me for doing that.

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ShellyC and Taylor being partners would explain why those two wagons have slow burns stalled out while others are more rapidly exploding.

blah titus i don't care a single bit about your VCA other that it's wrong

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If Pickaxe Pete flips scum, I'm still pretty interested in Tayl0r tomorrow, although in a funny way she's so erratic and inconsistent it feels too conspicuously bad to be scum. Also, completely happy getting the heat if he flips town. I don't really get a vibe that he is happy and enthusiastic to be here.

too scummy to be scum isn't valid logic and taylor looks bad

what if it's taylor / pickaxe / plusjoy here gg

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like the flip-flop go-with-the-flowy reads by taylor isn't indicative of a town mindset therefore I am heavily scumreading them aorn

joyed also doing the same contrary to their usual townplay of throwing out reads and whatnot

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Please Titus! I'll make you votecounts if you stop suspecting me!! I'm just so scared..

don't try and use AtE now have a nice day

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fidget is a gut TR (but might have me pocketed) and titus' VCA attempt is *wrong* but still an attempt so +townpoints

dripping goofball currently voteparking on me which is bleh but their entrance seemed pretty town

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I'm leaning town on this guy.

@BM can you explain further on this? I want to dive deeper

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i think youve seen me enough to know that thats exactly how town!me operates

nope that's not how town!you operates end of convo

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i do agree that i expect a bit more from both plus and nos, but dunno if i really know either of them well enough to say its a scumtell.

town!joyed produces reads (albeit not super accurate ones, no offence) but scum!joyed pokes around and tries to look cute.

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VOTE: PlusJoy
pressure vote, also my biggest SR atm

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who was i talking about? need some context here, then we can dive together

sorry, meant to quote above as well it refers to pob long

since I'm nullish on them I want to see why you're TR'ing

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i dont really know what point you're trying to make here? Spam filler, painted as something intellectual.

you think taylor is TSTBS which doesn't make sense imo

taylor's just plain scummy here (even though their townplay is pretty scummy? idk)

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If you wanted to post a readslist, I would be interested to read it. Incidentally, that goes for anyone. I might even do one of my own at some point.

sure I can dive everyone's ISO this afternoon probably

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initially i had you as light town for townreading me, which i assumed was a metaread. but that has since changed to a bit of a scumread - your posts are mostly fluff, light on analysis, and you've been hopping your vote around quite a lot while sheeping. i expect more and better content from you. and the townread on me could just as easily be an attempt to pocket.

the word "light" triggers me

this is fence-sitting

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aren't we all vanilla what do they get keeping one or the other?

and major doubt that we have two scum wagons d1 lmfao

plusjoy has played games with me before. (albeit me rolling scum and him rolling town)

I'm pocketable

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ah fk it, it's shellyc ain't it?

have read through all her past games (she was scum in all bar 1), and she had a prolific tell across most of the scumgames which she didn't use in the towngame. That's good enough for me. I guess a shelly scumflip makes Pete look bad anyway, but I'm good with the meta approach first.

did I keep using the word

Spoiler:

Appeal to Emotion

Meta is trash, nothing can change my mind

and nope! try again. you're wrong

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Also lots of emotion here - a bit much for my taste.

i overreact a lot.

try read my games

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shelly, that's -1, if you have a town PR, time to claim!

I WON'T FALL FOR IT LMFAO

I have a curse that I get to E-1 in all d1's I've completed

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and you also have a curse that you almost always roll scum?

yes

I do have one but it's broken now

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It's weird that shelly isn't engaging with me.

hi I'm free to talk to

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What makes this a pressure vote?

I'm trying to pressure them to create content and display their townself which I don't see

the next step if they don't is to push this wagon

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ISO looks bland and nullish maybe a scumlean tbh

not really showing much effort to solve

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weird wagon by taylor tbh, especially if nos flips green

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I feel like it's more opportunistic than actually trying to scumhunt

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Nos isn't town they are null leaning scum but that looks like distancing (if nos is red) or opportunistic wagoning (if nos is green)

either way the vote looks horrible

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Sheeping isn't productive / protown either saudade

pedit: how can I read someone whose posts have been bland? I'd say scumlean based on that. I don't mind not committing to an option.

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yes. PlusJoy is a stronger scumread to me atm with even less of a solving mindset / overall blendiness

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gypyx why'd you hop on when you said this

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it's clear that pickaxe is scum, joyed is bussing them with a vote that isn't furthering anything

the wagon falling apart and very quickly going back to me is clear that I am green and they are red. BM comes in saying "meta incriminates me" and bam, all the scum pile on me the lynchbait

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nvm I misread the VC thinking fidget was the last vote on me.

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*nosferatu

ok i will try sleeping since im sleep deprived and cannot think now

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ggwp scum!

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Also, that N2 trial was especially hard! Yikes! I mean, kudos for not getting any mafia in the guess list, but wow.

nahhh I nailed DGB and was thinking taylor for a bit

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titus trials were rather hard but ratio was townsided and imo scum did play a really good game

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titus trials were rather hard but ratio was townsided and imo scum did play a really good game

Ratio was not townsided in a vanilla game.

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didnt mean to post that but ehhhhh i think tbf guessing the scumkill with two low info days was pretty hard

interested in looking at what the scum trials would have been