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[stan1ey]

even if we thought ur claim is true we should still lynch you shelly as it's only a vt claim and if you flip green we can just kill looter next, havent got a leg to stand on rlly either way

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stan, let them talk. It’s good for analyzis either way.

[shellyc]

Yeah my lim will be useful remember to get looter tomorrow

[shellyc]

I’ve solved this

Looter claims red on me to protect A50 from the lim and they are obv partners

[NorwegianboyEE]

But this is not ELO.
And if A50 is Looters partner then they’d be obvious partners tommorow...

[JacksonVirgo]

Did you know that shelly beat me by buddying me into submission in a newbie game recently?

And then she just did it again in front of me.
That’s cold.

Is that the game with minimegabyte? That's the only game with shelly I really knew since that's the game my gf got cucked by shelly about outside of my own game and knowing all their games which I looked at just before to read shelly.

The game bell refers to is 2023, not minimegabytes game

Yeah alright

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let’s say Looter is scum.
He mislims you, an claimed VT.
And probably dies from vig shot.
With a scum nightkill that makes it 7v2. And if he was protecting A50 that effectively makes another scum caught.
What does mafia gain from this? It’s an laughable theory. So pretty sure you’re just bullshitting.

[shellyc]

Not if the last scum is a deep wolf like Bell here.

Scum can easily be Wifoming

[Town looter]

Jackson has already worked it out, but now that I am on my PC, i'll post my pre-prepared wall anyway

Ok story time!!

I finally get to explain my Fwesnid bias, and provide my take on the setup (noting that given I don't really know that much about how setups are balanced, my insight will be limited).

So, I am town's Night 3 Gunsmith. And during the night I investigated Shellyc (at time of writing I still haven't got results but will post results very shortly).

My role, as far as I can see it, is 90% to do with me yielding a postivie from a Gunsmith, and 10% a genuine investigative role - my slot is effectively here to provide a false positive (again, at time of writing I don't know if i was visited by Fwesnid).

Now initially I assumed Fwesnid was scum aligned (and I kinda still do, but not as strongly as I did), because I figured I was a protown fall guy for our more powerful PRs (they kill me instead of killing someone more useful). But thinking about how strong our town PRs are, it's possible I am here to be elim-bait in the case Fwesnid investigates me, thus diluting Fwesnid's power and balancing his role up a bit. Given we have had two goons flip, this makes a bit more sense than the Scum!Fwesnid scenario (although I am not writing this off as having two, quite differently set up, gunsmiths seems odd).

I haven't crumbed this role at all cause I thought it pretty useless, but it was the reason I was SRing Fwesnid, and it's also partly why I believed Glitch's claim: I thought he was a Night X gunsmith or other type of gun holder. Hence post 2109. At the time I was thinking Scum had a gunsmith (Fwesnid) and Glitch, myself and others were delayed town PRs who were there as investigators with the fringe benefit of being fall guys for the Vig. However, Glitch's response didn't align with this, and from that point my TR on Glitch/SR on Fwesnid was weaker.

Anyhoo, thats my pre-recorded story. Results and anything else interesting based on day start incoming.

[Town looter]

Also vig shooting me tonight would be ultra stupid, you can just elim me tomorrow if shelly flips town. Spend your shot on someone else.

[Town looter]

oh wait, vig gets to see shelly flip. Never mind me, drunk logic.

shoot away on shelly flip my good man.

also VOTE: shelly

[Bell]

Hi I’m on phone and didn’t read half of this but LOOTER IS SCUM
VOTE: Looter

I’m VT and lynchbait

Two gunsmiths don’t make any sense

Probably false.
Elimination bait for a VT is a joke.

[Bell]

What’s the point of flipping you if shelly flips scum? @TL.

[Bell]

Not if the last scum is a deep wolf like Bell here.

Scum can easily be Wifoming

[Bell]

Is there anything else we need to do today?

[Bell]

Hold your votes until people check in.

Also agree with Stan, we’re being carried.

[Bell]

Carried as in the power roles are doing all the work. We’re just along for the ride.

[Glitch]

UNVOTE: A50

Omg
I am so freaking glad I finally got a claim out of Norway and Looter. I have been trying to get a claim out of them through mass claim because Norway refused to claim in our PT. I have been suspicious of him this entire time but have been trying to keep that under wraps from him until his claim because:

I am also a motion detector.

I am told each night if the player I recruited visited someone or was visited by someone. All 3 nights came back positive for visiting or being visited.

That's why I've had a solid TR on Titus all along. Because I detected motion on IKSF N1. The real kicker is that Norway, claimed VT, was positive for motion detecting N2 but no PR said they targeted Norway. So the question is...

Did any PR target Norway on N2?

If so PLEASE say something.

If not we have some hardcore WIFOM coming our way. Is Norway scum lying about his claim? Or is Norway town who was visited by a non killing scum PR that night?

N3 Town Looter was positive for motion which makes sense with his claim. Is shelly actually scum though, but then why did Norway immediately jump ship on the A50 wagon he's been pushing so hard and move to his scum buddy rather than take a little time? Is it because he has in the most recent 10-12 pages lost some town points with others so he wants to be first on a scum lynch? TL has no reason to lie because if he is shelly flips town and then it's his head next. But what the hell is going on with Norway??

That's why I recruited Looter instead of my too TR to the neighborhood. I don't think our hood will be quite as useful because I've suspected scum in it all along since the IKSF flip.

[Town looter]

@ Bell: Yup.

In other news, I feel like I have found out what my goal is in playing this game. To try and play like I do as scum - it's not an easy task given i play with a straight bat so to speak (cricket metaphor for the americans).

pedit: ok im too drunk to figure out Glitch's latest claim, will revisit tomorrow

[Town looter]

but i would say if a protown PR visited Norway then be careful about claiming.

[Bell]

This game seems extremely town sided.
Happily, that’s not my
Problem *smug*

[Bell]

I think Shellyc is definitely scum.
You can see it in the way she did a 360 degree turn on me once outted as having a gun.

Dunno on norwe, not 100% on a50 due to shell bus.
I respect the motion detection. I was kinda getting sad you weren’t inviting me to the clubhouse.

[Bell]

I meant 180. *cough*

[shellyc]

I’m not turning on you I’m suggesting the posibility omg

I have no need to shade you the UTR as scum I can no you

[shellyc]

I meant NK.