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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:41 am

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I feel like I would usually only read my own ISO during a game if I was worried about how my play appears to others. I think that's a pretty minor concern for townies.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:43 am

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In post 125, Satisfaction wrote:I feel like I would usually only read my own ISO during a game if I was worried about how my play appears to others. I think that's a pretty minor concern for townies.
meh I read my ISO in every game nowadays to see how my game's progressed
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:02 am

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In post 123, Noraa wrote:Well I mean no matter what role I get, I'm still me so no shit ur gonna see similarities
lol yeah
In post 124, Noraa wrote:But tbh I've read my iso here and I think my play style has changed over the past week quite a bit. I'm in 4 games rn and trust me my play has changed quite a bit
yeah I guess we're six pages in so I can't make a snap judgement or anything but in your scumgame you were super active and friendly. if I have time I'll go read your other games. maybe you are just inherently active and friendly so it's NAI.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:03 am

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alrighty do that:D
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:16 am

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UNVOTE: Noraa

reads, ordered from towniest to scumiest within lists--

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ArthurConyl

This is page six of the game so I don't have strong reads right now I'm feeling pretty towny on Satisfaction. It sucks to have so many null reads because that's not super helpful. But I want my thoughts out there regardless.

I was about to vote Arthur, but that would put him at E-1. I didn't realize that he had quite that many votes, so I assume that others might not realize as well, so this seems like a situation where it would be easy for someone to accidentally hammer. I'll leave it at
FoS: ArthurConyl
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Spoiler:
Also Arthur please don't self vote!
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:17 am

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^this is my first time using a spoiler tag, that was pretty exciting :D I don't know why, I thought it would be more complicated for some reason
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:19 am

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Dont self vote if ur town. if ur scum do us a favor and self vote pls
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:28 am

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In post 131, Noraa wrote:Dont self vote if ur town. if ur scum do us a favor and self vote pls
Yeah and the context for that is here of course:
In post 86, ArthurConyl wrote:Hehe, we don't talk about that game.
Spoiler:
I self-hammered. :neutral:
What I kind of got out of it was that people, even me, tend to overread small things. We ended up lynching townies because of it. Probably the biggest lesson from those games was to look at the bigger picture when reading someone and also don't act
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 131, Noraa wrote:Dont self vote if ur town. if ur scum do us a favor and self vote pls
Scum self-votes and self-hammers hurt the town if they end the day early and deny us extra information/interactions to learn from.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:32 am

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doesn't matter. if they r scum, they should self vote too. tbh normally even if we discuss the full time we don't get a scum day 1. id rather have a shorter day 1 and one less scum than a longer 1 with a mislim
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:34 am

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In post 134, Noraa wrote:doesn't matter. if they r scum, they should self vote too. tbh normally even if we discuss the full time we don't get a scum day 1. id rather have a shorter day 1 and one less scum than a longer 1 with a mislim
Yes, I would rather lim scum than not lim scum lol I was just explaining why scum self-voting can also be anti-town behavior
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:36 am

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scum is antitown -_________-
doesn't matter what they r doing, their damn existence is antitown
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:38 am

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In post 136, Noraa wrote:scum is antitown -_________-
doesn't matter what they r doing, their damn existence is antitown
I feel like I'm getting into semantics here but scum can definitely act pro-town or anti-town... in the same way that town can act in a pro-town way or an anti-town way.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:40 am

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hm ig so but in the end our roles tell us our job and it doesn't particularly matter whether or not the scum is being protown. all that matters is that we must kill them to win
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:42 am

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Okay! We can agree on that last part at least.

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I feel like it's hard to read Egix when he doesn't post very often. I know that this NAI because this is pretty typical behavior from Egix. Egix, can you explain your playstyle a little bit? You and I haven't played together before.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:43 am

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Not to worry! Our mod's pretty active so she'll prod him if he needs to be prodded
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:48 pm

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In post 129, Redados wrote:UNVOTE: Noraa

reads, ordered from towniest to scumiest within lists--

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Null:
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Noraa
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Scum:
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This is page six of the game so I don't have strong reads right now I'm feeling pretty towny on Satisfaction. It sucks to have so many null reads because that's not super helpful. But I want my thoughts out there regardless.

I was about to vote Arthur, but that would put him at E-1. I didn't realize that he had quite that many votes, so I assume that others might not realize as well, so this seems like a situation where it would be easy for someone to accidentally hammer. I'll leave it at
FoS: ArthurConyl
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Spoiler:
Also Arthur please don't self vote!
Please explain your reasoning for Arthur as scum.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 140, Noraa wrote:Not to worry! Our mod's pretty active so she'll prod him if he needs to be prodded
I'm not worried about him getting prodded. I'm worried about him posting light occasional posts with minimal content.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:34 pm

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that's fine he'll get prodded and we'll get a more active replacement :D
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:45 pm

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In post 141, Mundivore wrote:Please explain your reasoning for Arthur as scum.
Sure.

Poking at a behavior in RVS, as Arthur did in posts 35 and 37 is healthy because it moves the game forward. This is pro-town behavior.

In post 40, Arthur backs down completely as soon as his line of thinking is questioned. To me, this reads like noob!scum backing away at the slightest hint of pressure. It's not super AI but worth a look in combination with the rest of Arthur's behavior.

Posts 73 and 78 are totally OMGUS.

(Post 86 was disappointing because I felt like he learned the wrong lesson there.)

I also wasn't a huge fan of #93. NK15 literally quoted Arthur's post as reasoning for their vote and then Arthur jumps on this. This is weird jumpy behavior.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:10 pm

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In post 143, Noraa wrote:that's fine he'll get prodded and we'll get a more active replacement :D
I'm not worried about him getting prodded or being inactive to the point of replacement. I'm worried about him posting light occasional posts with minimal content. I don't think he'll be prodded or replaced.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:11 pm

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dang that'll suck. If he posts fluff, fluff, and only fluff, it'll be very unhelpful
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:11 pm

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In general I want to see more from Egix, Not Known, and Bluebell.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:12 pm

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In post 147, Redados wrote:In general I want to see more from Egix, Not Known, and Bluebell.
agreed also stop sheeping mundivore. He was pr last round doesn't mean anything this round -________-
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:36 pm

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In post 148, Noraa wrote:
In post 147, Redados wrote:In general I want to see more from Egix, Not Known, and Bluebell.
agreed also stop sheeping mundivore. He was pr last round doesn't mean anything this round -________-
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