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[Noraa]

VOTE: Morning Tweet
for having a hand in the elimination of vanilla townie Noraa in her first marathon game

[Noraa]

VOTE: Odd Day Jester

clown detected

activating anti-clown measures

Sirius where you at?

[Noraa]

Hello fellow scum! I am also scum. What will our scumplan be in this game?

your intro is LAMIST
VOTE: Redados
Mod your off the hook for now <.<
I'll get u in the next game im in with u :>>>>>>

[Noraa]

wait actually is that supposed to be TSTBS?
ur intro is either too bold to be scum or smart smart scum.

[Noraa]

but I think its smart smart scum >.<

[Noraa]

I dont have a "typical playstyle" yet. its more just a huge mess of fluff and random comments thrown in whenever I feel like it

[Noraa]

phew this game is gonna be rough. two pages in and my scum radar's already gone off multiple times. these entrances are really making me question everything...

[Noraa]

phew this game is gonna be rough. two pages in and my scum radar's already gone off multiple times. these entrances are really making me question everything...

Scumreading people for their entrance is a fools errand.

nah its not SRs at this point in time yet. Some of the entrances have made me felt like scum was trying real hard to look town by seeming like a bold townie. In general I think that's a pretty good way to approach a game as scum since first impressions always last even if only subconsciously. So what I would say about these are that they are suspicions that may influence my decisions later in the game but they are by no means reads yet

[Noraa]

Ik a handful of people here from my first game ever, doggos. Aaaand I also know UNO a tiny bit

[Noraa]

beep beep

hmmmmmm
I like my vote where it was :3
VOTE: Morning Tweet
^^

[Noraa]

nu fun it doesn't show up
back to redados then
VOTE: redados

[Noraa]

@Odd Day Jester
ur funny
I look forward to the daily dose of heavy sarcasm
Who's ticked the checkbox? good question. read my ISO to figure that out. as for the ones that my ISO dont cover, those r top secret :3 Such mysterious tea that u shall never know ... unless they turn into solid scumreads that is<.<

[Noraa]

my typical playstyle is scumreading Shelly

lmaoooo that's kinda mean(starting each game with a bias against her) but tbh it does seem she has a knack for landing scumroles

[Noraa]

my typical playstyle is scumreading Shelly

lmaoooo that's kinda mean(starting each game with a bias against her) but tbh it does seem she has a knack for landing scumroles

I've completed three games with Shelly. She has been scum twice and the other time I led her lim on day one for good measure

DAMNNNN girl's like a scumrole magnet
then again ... the probability of her landing yet another scum role would be kinda low at this point since she's already landed a shit ton

[Noraa]

I dont have a "typical playstyle" yet. its more just a huge mess of fluff and random comments thrown in whenever I feel like it

Noraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! HEY!

hewwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! ps. I was gonna /out this game cuz I got too many games going on rn. but then I was like hmmmm I do wanna play a game with Jackson so I'm here

Also fyi the moment I saw ur first post, I just thought of when I got my first role pm and my reply was "I'm confused"

noraa doesn't want those modbias points

@noraa vote for people in the plist please

My vote is on redados rn and tbh it doesn't really matter who my vote is on inn rvs. generally my votes jump around anyways and my rvs vote has never lasted...

[Noraa]

anway that post i quoted is noraa just trying to appear to advance the collective consiousness of reads without actually contriubting anything at all, i expect every person on this website to like have looked up that one fallacy they are using i think its gamberls fallacy? every role roll is individual and not connective to other role rolls


ompedit hello noraa! wow you sound like scum that is coming under pressure and appear REALLY self consious in that post
so right now i have a read on you that is substantiated and that 1NJ thinks is somewhat credible. that means we are outside of rvs and i could decide to attempt wagon you if i ever stop deathtunneling 1NJ

how does this make you feel? please explain your opinion

Lol I wasn't saying hi to u but hello there! ooo super self conscious. I'd like to hear an explanation on this before I give my permission for u to start a wagon lmaooo

[Noraa]

LMAOOOOOOOO nope u guessed wrong. its currently this one:
bc shelly used it a lot in the pt in doggos

[Noraa]

i dont need your permission to start a wagon VOTE: noraa

it was a joke lol

[Noraa]

These are my top favs:

(ranked favorite to least)
(I just realized I like more than )
charge me for these emojis jester im quite loaded with my hot ten dollar bill

[Noraa]

Spoiler: This Game

VOTE: Morning Tweet
for having a hand in the elimination of vanilla townie Noraa in her first marathon game

VOTE: Odd Day Jester

clown detected

activating anti-clown measures

Sirius where you at?

Hello fellow scum! I am also scum. What will our scumplan be in this game?

your intro is LAMIST
VOTE: Redados
Mod your off the hook for now <.<
I'll get u in the next game im in with u :>>>>>>

wait actually is that supposed to be TSTBS?
ur intro is either too bold to be scum or smart smart scum.

but I think its smart smart scum >.<

Spoiler: THat game

I thought Echovision voting multiple times was a lil sus bc it seems like he's desperately trying to eliminate shelly. The reply shelly gave was a lil provocative soo idk what to feel there. I feel like it's too hard to be sure on anything rn tho cuz most people haven't said much.

wait so lemme get this right day 1 there mostly likely wi be two dead in one day if both kills happen? If so nuuuu;( not cool not cool

@sirius9121 same here soooo VOTE: Nikahang

Should've saved it for later after all patience is a virtue lmaooo

LOL thats pretty random but I mean I like my laptop too unfortunately it will never be my favorite so long as my phone exists

A little sus I agree.

lol still trying to wrap my head around this game so I doubt anything I'm thinking rn would be of help.

.

I see a massive content difference just on the first few of their posts.

I kinda want to agree, but that was her first game on-site, and she's played a lot more since. It's not out of the question that she's learnt to be a little more open/confident as scum.

That is my only finished game still(besides two marathon which I dont really count) I agree with Jester in that my play as scum and town has become more confident. Idk really it's been an interesting experience having 4 games at once. I often get told my reads suck and that's a real confidence dropper but I do think I've learned to have more confident play. So what I have done so far is definitely not enough to clear me as town.

[Noraa]

BAHAHA its so ugly
I'll give you an extra 10 for this one
apologies for the absolute eye rape

[Noraa]

I dont have much motivation to reply to your post @shelly bc it's just completely wrong. My slight suspicions on Redados are completely justified bc his opening definitely could be slightly AI.
You're seriously gonna tell me to "share reads" like 2 pages into the game?
fence sitting? 2 pages into the game you expect me to have a solid read?
I literally just replied to redados' post and said you landed a lot of scumroles. Thats a fact not an opinion so I dont see what's wrong there.
Shelly if ur town, the things ur using to SR me are weak as hell and maybe you should try to actually scumhunt instead of pick at me for no good reason.
if ur scum, then ur just setting me up as limbait after what's his face started sussing me(sorry I seriously dont remember the name and am too lazy to go back and check)

[Noraa]

bugspray was the name

[Noraa]

Low hanging fruit ..... easy limbait?

[Noraa]

DAYVIG: JacksonVirgo

this is lockscum

jackson / noraa game solved

Wait a sec. What if.... Jackson and Noraa are both scum. Because Jackson is trying to prove them to be town here by going into other games and really trying. Hmmm...

sheep alert

[Noraa]

Low hanging fruit ..... easy limbait?

Yep, that's what it means. Another 2 dollars on your tab for that explanation.

ur mean :< I'm broke so be nice

megabyte is a mislim waiting to happen

in newbie 2019 my scum sweep, they were my easy mislim

Shelly standing up for mini so fast when mini hasn't even been SRed by many people yet is very concerning. Seems like I might've found us our two scums this round....

[Noraa]

MinisculeGigabyte, what do you think of Noraa's play so far?

Noraa is very active which is a good thing but I don’t think they have as much game advancing content as 72 does they are more just posting I haven’t really seen anything that says Noraa is any alignment tbh but with Jackson trying to defend them using other games is a red flag to me

ur mixing games which just makes me think you didnt even think this argument thru. You just wanted an anyone but you lim for day 1. This is precisely why I think Mini is sheeping shelly.

[Noraa]

megabyte is a mislim waiting to happen

in newbie 2019 my scum sweep, they were my easy mislim

Nah, this post is towny from shelly as well. Scum!shelly has far less reason to provide meta about Mini being an easy push/miselim, she doesn't need to say anything and can just let that happen. While town!shelly has reason to be cautious given past experience, and is letting everyone know of it.

unless its a shelly/mini scum team

[Noraa]

MinisculeGigabyte, what do you think of Noraa's play so far?

Noraa is very active which is a good thing but I don’t think they have as much game advancing content as 72 does they are more just posting I haven’t really seen anything that says Noraa is any alignment tbh but with Jackson trying to defend them using other games is a red flag to me

ur mixing games which just makes me think you didnt even think this argument thru. You just wanted an anyone but you lim for day 1. This is precisely why I think Mini is sheeping shelly.

I read got asked this question then went to the other game and I don’t even know what happened there honestly

backpedalling here. Idk ur either just a townie tripping up or ur a scum tripping up. I can't tell which for now so I don't want a Mini day 1 lim. I can see why you would be considered easy limbait but cannot tell if ur newbscum or newbtown so I will hold off on evaluating u for now.

[Noraa]

shading someone for mixing up games isn't great logic noraa

I kinda like jackson for not just wagoning on the noraa FoS and taking a second thought and going back to 2027

its not shading for mixing up games. It's sussing Mini for putting so little thought into her post that it managed to sound exactly like ur post and mixed up games. This is literally why I think she's sheeping but no one's confirming this thought so now I just think im going insane >:(

[Noraa]

shading someone for mixing up games isn't great logic noraa

I kinda like jackson for not just wagoning on the noraa FoS and taking a second thought and going back to 2027

its not shading for mixing up games. It's sussing Mini for putting so little thought into her post that it managed to sound exactly like ur post and mixed up games. This is literally why I think she's sheeping but no one's confirming this thought so now I just think im going insane >:(

[Noraa]

shading someone for mixing up games isn't great logic noraa

I kinda like jackson for not just wagoning on the noraa FoS and taking a second thought and going back to 2027

its not shading for mixing up games. It's sussing Mini for putting so little thought into her post that it managed to sound exactly like ur post and mixed up games. This is literally why I think she's sheeping but no one's confirming this thought so now I just think im going insane >:(

[Noraa]

Well shit my wifi sucks

[Noraa]

I didn't believe you the first time you said it, and I even had my doubts on the second, but the THIRD time really got the message across. I understand, Noraa.

[Noraa]

MiniMegabyte is likely town because I found something she tends to do a lot in her scumgame, and hasn't done much of here yet. I'll keep what it is hidden until I've seen a little more from here. Also, I've decided I like the paranoia on Noraa/Jacko here, especially considering she knows him in real life so is more likely to be focused/interested in solving him:

DAYVIG: JacksonVirgo

this is lockscum

jackson / noraa game solved

Wait a sec. What if.... Jackson and Noraa are both scum. Because Jackson is trying to prove them to be town here by going into other games and really trying. Hmmm...

MinisculeGigabyte, what do you think of Noraa's play so far?

Noraa is very active which is a good thing but I don’t think they have as much game advancing content as 72 does they are more just posting I haven’t really seen anything that says Noraa is any alignment tbh but with Jackson trying to defend them using other games is a red flag to me

is there some sort of typo or misunderstanding here? Cuz I sure as hell dont live in Australia....

[Noraa]

sketchy!Noraa doesn't necessarily mean scum!Noraa. It means Noraa!Noraa.

truths.

[Noraa]

Noraa is still scum

town!Noraa is a lot more... honest. and idk natural?

idk where in the world u get this conclusion but ur gonna have to explain it bc I have zero finished town games

[Noraa]

Noraa is still scum

town!Noraa is a lot more... honest. and idk natural?

oh boy this is great evidence here. top quality material.
no this is the most trash reasoning I've seen in a while now not to mention u have nothing backing it up bc I dont have any finished town games

[Noraa]

I will not explain it

this reads really bad.

[Noraa]

Noraa and shellyc:

I wasn't gonna say anything at first but I think it's painfully obvious to everyone at this point. It's pretty blatant that you're both masons doing some early distancing, and I recommend you knock it off and start scumhunting please. Thanks.

-_______________-*

[Noraa]

HOLY FUCK what happened while I was away for a hot ten minutes or something?

[Noraa]

looking for hoes

Redados this is not ok. Every game I play with you, you come tell me ur gonna SR me bc of my playstyle. if uk that it's 100% biased and not reliable, then y tf r u bringing it up? I don't think this is AI since it has happened more than once but dude can you cut it out? You told us a few posts ago that you played three games with shelly and two she was scum and the other you got a day one lim on town!shelly. Do you not see a problem here? You need to look at each game separately while referencing what you need to reference, not carry a bias/grudge from game to game and literally start each game off by telling everyone u SR me or shelly bc of our playstyle. It's not cool, its not helpful, and I don't think the people you do it to appreciate it. Can you stop?

[Noraa]

Ah wait I meant to quote something else

[Noraa]

Fuck that post looks stupid with that quote

[Noraa]

looking for hoes

Redados this is not ok. Every game I play with you, you come tell me ur gonna SR me bc of my playstyle. if uk that it's 100% biased and not reliable, then y tf r u bringing it up? I don't think this is AI since it has happened more than once but dude can you cut it out? You told us a few posts ago that you played three games with shelly and two she was scum and the other you got a day one lim on town!shelly. Do you not see a problem here? You need to look at each game separately while referencing what you need to reference, not carry a bias/grudge from game to game and literally start each game off by telling everyone u SR me or shelly bc of our playstyle. It's not cool, its not helpful, and I don't think the people you do it to appreciate it. Can you stop?

what did i do...

look at what u have done

[Noraa]

Let me take two on that post
its not a lovely sight with the wrong quote >:(

[Noraa]

I'm also feeling scummy on Noraa and Shelly but can acknowledge to myself that it probably has less to do with alignment and more to do with playstyle.

Redados this is not ok. Every game I play with you, you come tell me ur gonna SR me bc of my playstyle. if uk that it's 100% biased and not reliable, then y tf r u bringing it up? I don't think this is AI since it has happened more than once but dude can you cut it out? You told us a few posts ago that you played three games with shelly and two she was scum and the other you got a day one lim on town!shelly. Do you not see a problem here? You need to look at each game separately while referencing what you need to reference, not carry a bias/grudge from game to game and literally start each game off by telling everyone u SR me or shelly bc of our playstyle. It's not cool, its not helpful, and I don't think the people you do it to appreciate it. Can you stop?

[Noraa]

Phew ok that's the right one. Now let me catch up on the tea. I'll drop some comments tmrw hopefully

[Noraa]

this should be a mafiascum copy pasta

nuuu its copyrighted. so u gotta pay me millions to use it

[Noraa]

this should be a mafiascum copy pasta

nuuu its copyrighted. so u gotta pay me millions to use it

sue me daddy

I will do it. fight me. square up! <.<

[Noraa]

PAGE TOPPPP

[Noraa]

yay I snagged one

[Noraa]

noraa give me your stances and stop producing BS

no thanks. I have like ten pages to catch up and im not reading them now cuz my brains already fried asf

[Noraa]

I do think that everyone here needs to calm their butts and take a chill pill tho

[Noraa]

oh boy the next time somebody scumreads me its gonna be a blast

Saudade this is not ok. Every game I play with you, you come tell me ur gonna SR me bc of my playstyle. if uk that it's 100% biased and not reliable, then y tf r u bringing it up? I don't think this is AI since it has happened more than once but dude can you cut it out? You told us a few posts ago that you played three games with shelly and two she was scum and the other you got a day one lim on town!shelly. Do you not see a problem here? You need to look at each game separately while referencing what you need to reference, not carry a bias/grudge from game to game and literally start each game off by telling everyone u SR me or shelly bc of our playstyle. It's not cool, its not helpful, and I don't think the people you do it to appreciate it. Can you stop?

>:( dont do this to me

[Noraa]

YALL SUCK
specifically Jackson and Saudade
u two both owe me lots of money >:(
and I want interest too <.<

[Noraa]

I'm not really sure how to respond to Noraa here. I definitely didn't mean to make you upset, I'm sorry

ig it never bothers u until it happens to u. never bothered me much when u did it to shelly. she handled it like a champ. however im a whiny potato so that sucks for u.

[Noraa]

Jester both Jackson and Saudade owe me millions of dollars. Go ask them for the money. They'll pay for me

[Noraa]

@Noraa ask for royalties, too

?

[Noraa]

Ok but it actually ticks me off so Jackson and Saudade lets not turn it into a joke. I can make another paragraph that you guys can use as a joke.

[Noraa]

(insert name) is scum. To begin with your entire play is scummy. Your first posts? Bleh. They looked like you copy pasted some random townies posts from some other game. You even copied an extra name that DOESN'T happen to be your name. All these points made on you are very valid yet you have failed to reply to any of them which shows you have nothing to say to all these Fos' and SRs on you. Your play as town is less scummy and you actually try to push the game forward whereas right now your just a sneaky little scum trying to go with the flow. Please get better reads and learn to play a better scum game. Much appreciated ^^
(your name)

Your welcome and u guys better use it otherwise I just wasted 5 minutes thinking this up

[Noraa]

(insert name) is scum. To begin with your entire play is scummy. Your first posts? Bleh. They looked like you copy pasted some random townies posts from some other game. You even copied an extra name that DOESN'T happen to be your name. All these points made on you are very valid yet you have failed to reply to any of them which shows you have nothing to say to all these Fos' and SRs on you. Your play as town is less scummy and you actually try to push the game forward whereas right now your just a sneaky little scum trying to go with the flow. Please get better reads and learn to play a better scum game. Much appreciated ^^
(your name)

Your welcome and u guys better use it otherwise I just wasted 5 minutes thinking this up

Noraa this is not ok. Every game I play with you, you come tell me ur gonna SR me bc of my playstyle. if uk that it's 100% biased and not reliable, then y tf r u bringing it up? I don't think this is AI since it has happened more than once but dude can you cut it out? You told us a few posts ago that you played three games with shelly and two she was scum and the other you got a day one lim on town!shelly. Do you not see a problem here? You need to look at each game separately while referencing what you need to reference, not carry a bias/grudge from game to game and literally start each game off by telling everyone u SR me or shelly bc of our playstyle. It's not cool, its not helpful, and I don't think the people you do it to appreciate it. Can you stop?

this is why I like Jackson more >:(

[Noraa]

I feel bullied T^T
hmph >.<

[Noraa]

Noraa, believe in the me that believes in the you that believes in the me.

but I dont believe in u <.<

[Noraa]

Ok enough for today. I'm going to bed. Imma wake up to a lot of "copy pasta" ik it but whateves a girl's gotta sleep. night. I'll catch up tomorrow when im grumpy and annoying in the early early morning >:(

[Noraa]

The emojis make me think that you're underage and I should stop bullying teens on the internet

haha u thought right. its not bullying lmao but if it makes u feel bad. GOOD

[Noraa]

YALL SUCK
specifically Jackson and Saudade
u two both owe me lots of money >:(
and I want interest too <.<

Sorry :c

oh wait wait hold up had to reply to this post before I went to bed

Jackson just pretend it only says Saudade cuz that's who it was meant for lmao
ur name is obviously not there :3

[Noraa]

Oh also one other thing before I go to bed. I wanna put a word in my my ex scum partner. Shelly plays a good scum game imo and if she's doing anything really scummy here(I haven't caught up yet so im not quite too sure if this applies), I would assume she's just playing a weird asf town game. Idk but that's my view on that after being her scum partner once and shallow meta diving her a bit afterwards

[Noraa]

WAIT WAIT ONE LAST THINNG
I SWEAR TO GOD ITS THE LAST THING
and its one word:
Saudade = Sundade = Sundad = Sun dad
yeah dont ask me why anyways FR this time im off

[Noraa]

Noraa and Shelly, you two both have that fucking evening sun avi and it’s the most confusing thing EVER.

idc my avi was going to be the logo for my chatroom on another site until someone convinced me to delete it so I dont give a fuck and im not changing it. well...technically its changed since doggos bc now if u zoom in, u see a Sunny not a sun :3

My most accurate reads come from my big

D?

HA

I believe giving someone a pass for self voting is a big mistake as it essentially opens up for scum doing it for easy town credit in the long run.

I believe voting Jester for voting himself is a big mistake as it essentially opens up for scum to wagon an slot that if flips town they can justify themselves by saying they were voting for a policy elimination.

I dont think Jester self voting was AI. He might be scum but it def shouldn't be bc of his self votes that we choose to start a wagon there...

Guys I am in a dilemma. It's 11pm almost rn and I start work at 11am and finish at 7pm. My girlfriend is also working but they start earlier. I can either go with her to work (leaving at 4:30am) or do I stay asleep for a bit and bike to work at around 10am.

I say "my girlfriend" forgetting that she's playing this game and will definitely see this and now I am going to be in so much shit lmfaooooooooooooooo

save me...

poor Jackson lmao

Oh my god imagine a vigi!shelly in this position lmfaooooo town would just lose

I AM VIGILANTE, DIE MAFIA SCUM!

I dont buy a claim that was thrown in this damn early when no one fucking asked.

a newb!scum (at least from my brain cells) isn't the self aware type as they aren't even very aware about what to do to manipulate the town.

Newb!scum might not be aware how to manipulate town, but they are likely to be more aware of how the rest of the game is perceiving them and be making efforts to appear reasonable. Certainly that was my experience, and I don't think I am atypical.

Yeah that's what I see from my experience as well. But maybe shell has different experiences I am unsure.

@Shell, do you remember how Noraa was acting in the doggo game? iirc they were incredibly self-conscious

I was?

UNVOTE:

Unvoting in pure shame, you have no idea how shitty this feels

aw dont. I doubt shelly actually is anyways

[Noraa]

OK IM OFFICIALLY CAUGHT UP

[Noraa]

I'm a lil unsure where my reads are atm can someone give me a block of questions to start my brain up. its a lil early ... and im not a fan of coffee so im tired and grumpy and my brains ded ^^

[Noraa]

no one gonna give me questions? okee then
;(
I'll just sit quietly in my corner until my brain wakes up then<.<

[Noraa]

BLOCK OF QUESTIONS FOR NORAA:

Who is in your townBLOCK?
What is your favourite BLOCK on Planet Earth?
Do you think duppin's insistence on policing is towny, scummy, or blocky?

this-this doesn't count cuz idk what a townblock is

[Noraa]

that whole innocent child thing has to be the most awkward thing i have read in a while

meh sucks to be u. ur gonna put up with it for at least a whole day 1

[Noraa]

this-this doesn't count cuz idk what a townblock is

People you think are town.

I've never played with anyone here besides the few in doggos
currently only have reads on the people in doggos
shelly plays strange. I dont understand her line of thinking ... ever. She'll be on my null for a long time bc I have a very hard time figuring her out.
Redados is giving me VERY different vibes here as compared to doggos where he was town. And these vibes r low-key scummy as well so he has an SR from me.
Mundivore has said like two things so im not sure what to think there. As town he was much more active...

[Noraa]

Everyone else I have reads on but im waiting to find out if these are play style or actually AI

[Noraa]

^scums never like to start or hammer wagons

[Noraa]

pointing it out is kinda anti town I agree since if it was a reaction test, then norwee would be town scumhunting and u saying that would ruin everything. However I dont think Saudade has done anything scummy as of right now and would love to hear a case on him.

[Noraa]

difference: there's more people
ur welcome

[Noraa]

pointing it out is kinda anti town I agree since if it was a reaction test, then norwee would be town scumhunting and u saying that would ruin everything. However I dont think Saudade has done anything scummy as of right now and would love to hear a case on him.

so I lightly Fos Redados here

[quoteVOTE: ="In post 765, Redados"]I've only played in nine person games. Anyone have a short list of tips/differences on bigger games vs those initial newbie games?[/quote]

He doesn't reply instead starts pulling out his newbie card asking for tips which is exactly what I did in doggos

difference: there's more people
ur welcome

I jokingly reply

VOTE: Noraa

and I get a vote with no reasoning backing it up

Scum!Redados ur not doing too hot rn
VOTE: Redados

[Noraa]

not funny and not helpful!

ooo is this post here that u posted helpful or funny?

[Noraa]

Dont u think that's terrible evidence to be backing up a vote? I'm starting to agree that ur not trying to scumhunt and the only people who dont need to scumhunt are the scums themselves

[Noraa]

I think I'm just being sensitive and emotional but initially reading post #766 is the angriest I've felt since joining this site.

this is a crappy excuse. I merely replied to ur question with a jokey and not too helpful answer. As compared to ur, "NORAA IS ALWAYS SCUM BC OF HER PLAYSTYLE AND MY BIAS AGAINST IT" in every single game that I've been in with u after doggos, I think I have done absolutely nothing

[Noraa]

That's NOT what I said. I said that I was scumreading you, but I acknowledged that I may be just scumreading you because of your playstyle. That's the opposite of what you're saying. It's giving you the benefit of the doubt based on how you play.

sure doesn't come off like that to me

[Noraa]

it's been a while since two people have voted me in a game, what a wonderful feeling

Why you feeling that way boi.

Do you have a fetish for being voted and scumread.

You see I was also a bit confused and unsure of what to think about that post but im 100% certain the conclusion I drew out of it was not that he had a fetish lmao

[Noraa]

Saudade is difficult to read imo and I've never played a game with him before so that's def making it harder. I've flip flopped a lot on my read for him so I just won't give a solid one cuz it gonna change in a hot two seconds anyways

[Noraa]

So ik this was a joke and all but I do feel like spamming and clogging up the thread is definitely something scum would want to do. I have no doubt that town might do it for fun and not care much about what happens since town know they are town, have nothing to hide, and normally seem more scummy bc of all that but that def make me SR him a bit. But then he says a lot of things that just strike me as fairly town so im lost in a forest of thoughts and someone can help me get out or I'll just stay here lol

[Noraa]

Ok Shelly.

did you just call me shelly?

[Noraa]

And I think you all know what I think about clowns.

What if i told you the character in my avi is called Clownpiece.

VOTE: NorweiganboyEE

that whole innocent child thing has to be the most awkward thing i have read in a while

Holy moly, agreed. Although I can kinda feel JV's response to it, b/c they were the mod of Doggos. That game shows for sure that crazy aggressive Day 1 play is well within shelly's playbook lmao.

***

Anyway, this is a super high volume thread. I play this game for a hobby, not a living, though, so I can't promise I'll output to all y'all's standards. I'm doing my best to stay caught up, though.

In all seriousness, my urge to lim shelly is still there, but I worry it comes close to lim on policy more than anything else. Her play is so ridiculously aggressive that it feels like it could easily mislead the town. Not to mention, her SR'ing of anyone who looks at her funny is distracting, even though my gut tells me she's town this game.

wasn't the innocent child thing directed at me? -________-

[Noraa]

Redados why did you vote Noraa?

was very frustrated at her and felt like my vote was the most powerful way I could show my anger

now that I have calmed down, I will leave my vote where it is.

This is terrible reasoning
I'm calling it
We have a scum!Redados

[Noraa]

suggestion:
Go on quick runs in the morning to clear ur mind and start the day of fresh and feeling good.
find like a one mile loop or something near ur house
that normally does it for me

feel free to ignore tho cuz it doesn't work for everyone

[Noraa]

which posts was it. I needa go reread cuz I dont remember any weird interactions with anyone in this game so far

[Noraa]

Wait then if it was a shelly/Jackson thing how's it got anything to do with me?

[Noraa]

This question's answer is no. If u read thru his iso u can see he doesn't actually have any reasons for SRing me

[Noraa]

lmaoooooooo top quality reasons right there
so tell me where tf did I use a newbie card in this game? Where's the AtE? Where's the confusion that I single handedly stirred up?
the answer I already know
its one word: nowhere

[Noraa]

This question's answer is no. If u read thru his iso u can see he doesn't actually have any reasons for SRing me

Well he has claimed to be scumreading you, then said it might just be playstyle. But it's not clear what the problem that he has with your playstyle is and now he's voting you for explicitly NAI reasons, so I'm wondering what's going on there.

nothings going on. It's just redados not willing to realize and accept that each game is different and my playstyle has nothing to do with alignment. He did this in another game as well but im not allowed to say any more there since its ongoing. The gist of it is that if he doesn't like ur play style, he's just gonna sus u in every single game for it.

[Noraa]

He literally said earlier that he didn't like Shellys play style bc she was scum in two games with him so he got a day 1 lim on her in the other one to be safe or something except she was a damn townie that game

[Noraa]

Apologies mod

[Noraa]

^scums never like to start or hammer wagons

This isn't accurate sorry, I see plenty of scum that start and hammer wagons

8( okee then

[Noraa]

lmaoooooooo top quality reasons right there
so tell me where tf did I use a newbie card in this game? Where's the AtE? Where's the confusion that I single handedly stirred up?
the answer I already know
its one word: nowhere

I'm not saying that you've pulled a newb card, I'm saying that you're playing like a new player. You propagated the thread spamming. You continue to misconstrue my (positive) meta read on you after I've explained it multiple times. You have AtE both with my scum reading you and with the copypasta.

Aha so I told everyone specifically that they needed to copy and paste it to annoy me otherwise I would smack them? "positive" No you know very well that all you do is say Noraa is scum bc u dont like my playstyle. In other words you have no reason to SR me bc there is no AtE

[Noraa]

I understand but its a shit reason and its the reason ur using to SR me rn

[Noraa]

@UNO your question has been answered

[Noraa]

this-this doesn't count cuz idk what a townblock is

People you think are town.

I've never played with anyone here besides the few in doggos
currently only have reads on the people in doggos
shelly plays strange. I dont understand her line of thinking ... ever. She'll be on my null for a long time bc I have a very hard time figuring her out.
Redados is giving me VERY different vibes here as compared to doggos where he was town. And these vibes r low-key scummy as well so he has an SR from me.
Mundivore has said like two things so im not sure what to think there. As town he was much more active...

in our newbie werent you going on about how meta is bad?

yeah its bad. However that early into the game, I wasn't sure how else to put reads together so meh had to use some.

Redados why did you vote Noraa?

was very frustrated at her and felt like my vote was the most powerful way I could show my anger

now that I have calmed down, I will leave my vote where it is.

if the vote was an anger vote, the normal reaction upon not being angry would be to unvote and apologize i feel like

I hadn't actually thought about that tbh. I was kinda just like yeah ofc he's just gonna leave an unreasonable vote on me. And the funny thing is no one seems to think there's a problem with him just SRing people for no absolute reason bc of his AtE shit.

Hey, UNOwen, I'd like to talk with you some. I see you just finished a game where Noraa was scum, what do you think of her here in contrast to that game?

I killed him day 1. I also replaced in day 1. I doubt he saw anything from me. Go ask Taylor. She was in there for a looooong time.

[Noraa]

Also welcome Taylor!!!! Glad to have another game with u

[Noraa]

Taylor Taylor I want a read too!! I feel left out ;(
I'm bored and most people's reads on me are boring. Make urs interesting pls <.<

[Noraa]

thats boring

[Noraa]

u can read me as an anonymous floating seaweed :3

[Noraa]

Mundivore is this a joke or something cuz we're out of rvs already -____-
but if its not what's a clownread?

[Noraa]

just quote that in every single one of ur posts from now on and u'll have that reminder there in every single post

[Noraa]

meh I didn't pay attention then. who tf suggested this idea?

[Noraa]

Also jester just asked uno to tell him about the differences of my play here and in newbie whatever tf the number was that just ended
uno gave a lame answer. u give it a shot cuz I'm also interested in hearing if there's much difference in my play from game to game
idk I personally think my play is the exact same each game but thats prolly not very true

[Noraa]

I'm not aggressive...
especially while shelly's here for comparison lmao
meh basically u dont have observations then imo
I'm always more relaxed in games I dont replace into ... I think?
not too sure yet but I think that's how I am
anyways I dont think I've done anything here that I wouldn't also do as scum yet so I feel like it'd be weird if anyone had a solid and good read on me rn.
Also this game's funny. Everyone blows up the thread on day 1 of day 1 and then after that there's just complete silence

[Noraa]

so helpful I don't even know what it means

[Noraa]

I am capable of being a train wreck and an innocent lil potato as scum. My only two finished games that are both scum games give off very very different vibes.
If I am capable of being a train wreck and an innocent lil potato as scum, I sure as hell am capable of being both as town

"I wonder if scum!her would be raving about Redados more roundabout now."
my brains fried. please explain what this is supposed to mean

[Noraa]

OHO how wrong you are.
But anyways I can't talk about ongoing games so we'll leave it at that. All of my other 4 games or something should end before this one does so there will be lots more meta on me real soon.

Idk my play isn't consistent as either imo(especially since I carry so many games, I have to switch from mindset to mindset due to alignment) however I generally am not confident enough to tunnel very hard as town. I'll tunnel but I won't make a huge tsunami like I did with gimli in newbie whatever the number was.

[Noraa]

NUUUUUU JACKSON

[Noraa]

Huh the theory is interesting but yeah we shouldn't discuss replacement stuff.
hmmm nu pokies im ticklish
ur gonna have to try harder :3

[Noraa]

lmao where is saudade
dude deserves a spot there

[Noraa]

I didn't mean it offensively just to clarify
I was just saying that dude has a a bomb personality is all

[Noraa]

Funblock so far is Odd Day Jester/Norwee/Mundivore

I'm okay with this bloc for now. Noraa's a promising prospect I'm looking at as well.

Pedit: Clear lack of what?

yes yes add me
I'm loaded since Jackson and Saudade still owe me money. I'll buy my way into this clownblock

[Noraa]

I dont see what's wrong with Fosing and not following up with a vote. It just means he/she wasn't that sure about their read right?

[Noraa]

Jackson replaced out so that he didn't have to pay up
so now I only got a Saudade piggy bank
go ask him for the money :3

[Noraa]

I have had plenty of informative posts. Let a girl have fun once in a while. Fluffing is better than lurking so shush

[Noraa]

fluffing is better than running around and starting a shit ton of little hurricanes
anyways jester what is ur read on the game rn?
I am struggling to find scum ngl and want to hear some opinions to *hopefully* guide me in the right direction

[Noraa]

Every time you fluffpost, Noraa, an angel loses its wings and falls down to Earth to become a giraffe. Are you really okay with that?

hmm sure thats fine ^^
either way I'm a demon from hell

[Noraa]

fluffing is better than running around and starting a shit ton of little hurricanes
anyways jester what is ur read on the game rn?
I am struggling to find scum ngl and want to hear some opinions to *hopefully* guide me in the right direction

Okay, I'll give you my quick rundown based on the top off my head:

1. Noraa - Gut says town.

2. Mundivore - I like his clown gimmick, which ironically makes him pretty clowny himself. Hasn't done a whole lot content-wise, but wanting to policy elim shelly while admitting his gut says she's town is slight +town for him, given his following reasons in 899 are okay.

3. bugspray - Probably town. Entered strongly, but want to see more.

4. JacksonVirgo - Liked him while he was here. Interactions with shelly especially.

5. duppin - Townish for admittance of voting me despite not scumreading, and then progression of moving vote elsewhere after looking through my ISO.

6. MiniMegabyte - Townish from META (everyone's favourite)

7. Tayl0r Swift replaces Grendel - Towny, I liked his thoughts for the most part.

8. Odd Day Jester - Obvscum. Kill it with fire.

9. shellyc - Gut screams scum. Meta implies scum.

10. Saudade - Lacks fire. Could be due to real life. Unsure.

11. Redados - Towny for that emotional reaction to the Noraa.

12. UNOwen - Inconclusive.

13. NorwegianboyEE - Inconclusive, but fun.

gut is a terrible way to get reads from my experience(lol a hot 2 games) But yeah my gut's wrong 1000000% of the time that I'm town. This is scientifically proven yes by Noraa the genius scientist. Mundivore seems to talk more as town but I haven't meta dived him so I'm not 100% sure that is correct. Bugspray was the one yelling at me for voting the mod >:( Noraa's gut sure doesn't like him for questioning that. I saw someone else do it in some random finished game and I was like OH EM GEE that looks funsies ... and so yeah him SRing me for it made me a wee bit upsetti spaghetti. Jacksons my favorite. Period. Duppin SRed for the same thing as Bugspray I'm pretty sure and so I was upsetti spaghetti again. Mini is loved by everyone I agree. She def strikes me as a lil scummy bc of all the sheeping shit but I do understand its hard to put reads together as newbtown since I also struggle with that. Grendel/Taylor idk. Slot hasn't talked much and I'm still upsetti with Taylor for asking scum Noraa to self hammer in newbie whatever the number was U r hard to read but ur posts seem more likely to come from town than scum. Ur play style def throws me off a bit. Shelly is shelly and always is aggressive. Nothing crazy from her yet. I didn't like her accusations against me however nothing she has done is AI so far imo. Saudade is a null rn since he's done a few things that I've found slightly scummy however its not anything crazy. Redados has very biased judgement. It's not cool and I think its fairly likely that he actually is scum this round because of his LAMIST entrance and that fake AtE. UNO has said like two things. NEE hasn't said anything AI either imo.

[Noraa]

*not completely sure if I remembered bugspray and duppins stuff correctly. Both dont talk much so its possible I mixed them up or remembered wrong

[Noraa]

Did I sheep ur reads? Or do u need glasses?

[Noraa]

wow my whole read had two similarities to urs!
SHOCKING

[Noraa]

I will not explain it

my words exactly

[Noraa]

I dont see anyone here with strong opinions besides you so talk for urself it doesn't apply to anyone else

[Noraa]

Sure since ur nicely asking, I'll answer to 5 questions max
go for it

[Noraa]

1) Why do you TR jackson?
2) What's your read on jester with an explanation?
3) If you had a complusory dayvig shot (makes someone die immediately) who would you use it on right now?

1. I don't have a read on Jackson but I think he's a bomb person and so he gets the benefit of doubt and goes into the townbook. Now that there's a replacement coming in, I'll be more fair ... hopefully. Ur gonna ask me what I thought about the whole shellyvjackson thing. I don't really have a strong opinion on it ngl. I'm fairly certain it wasn't SvS and is likely TvT. However if it was SvT, if I were to only look at that interaction, I would prolly say we have a scum!shelly. Your whole "reaction test" thing sounded like absolute bs but I really dont understand a lot of things u do so u get the benefit of the doubt and I'll just leave it at I think its TvT.

2. Jester has been the one trying the hardest to push the game forward so far. I agree others contributed and I also agree that jester fluffs a lot. But he is the one that has made the most effort and for that, he gets +100 town points. (although I dont appreciate him taking my money)

3. Let me think a bit more on this question. I'll get back to you on it before I go to bed tonight.

[Noraa]

I want to give him a chance to come back and improve though, he's mentioned he has some irl stuff going on which could be affecting his play. Sending you some waves of power, Saudade <3

send him some waves of hugs and junk food ^^

[Noraa]

1 is so fence sitty it might be TSTBS lol
2 is a decent read
3 I MEAN NOW. IF YOU DONT USE IT YOU DIE AND I KILL YOU

1. is not fence sitty. Its saying that if one of u and Jackson is scum, u r the scum. It's straightforward and states a pretty clear read on the Jacksonvshelly thing.
2. glad queen shelly finally approves of something
3. ok then I'd kill u cuz ur getting on my nerves and even if ur town, all ur doing rn is stir up a bunch of shit outta nothing

noraa do you have any offsite towngames

I haven't ever played any games of mafia before this website. I only have one account on this website. Do you think I have finished town games?

[Noraa]

noraa's used the word “idk” a horrific amount of times, anyone else getting scumpings

the word scumpings shows up in more than half ur posts and scumping by itself means nothing

[Noraa]

the word scumpings shows up in more than half ur posts and scumping by itself means nothing

it's better to be paranoid than lack of scumreads

no no it's not.
I'll get scum reads once I gather enough info and shit. u get scum pings over essentially nothing.

[Noraa]

NUUUUU >:(
I classify as a floating seaweed scuse u
It's a new gender U-U

[Noraa]

stop it. youre both the prettiest pony.

"girls you're both pretty" is a scum thought

trying to pocket us both? No way!

BAHAHAHAHAHA This what u get Taylor for calling me a pony >:(

[Noraa]

I WANNA MAKE THAT MY SIGNATURE LMAOOOO

I honestly kinda am tempted as well

[Noraa]

Dream as if you'll live as Noraa, live as if you'll die as shelly

Let me make an edit tho

Dream as if you'll live like Noraa, live as if you'll die like shelly

I think like is better than as here

no Taylor thats not what I meant -___-

[Noraa]

Dream as if you'll live as Noraa, live as if you'll die as shelly

Let me make an edit tho

Dream as if you'll live like Noraa, live as if you'll die like shelly

I think like is better than as here

no Taylor thats not what I meant -___-

I just realized something! Theres two ways to interpret this quote.
It can either be you think I live like there's a tomorrow but shelly lives like its the last day of her life
OR
It can be you should dream that you'll live my life(on ms) and live like you'll die like shelly dies(on ms)

They r similar but different. Dang this quote is pretty abstract

[Noraa]

My current signature was about 15 solid minutes of quote hunting on the internet lmao I'm glad it's being put to use now.

[Noraa]

First Noraa and the COPYPASTAS

now Noraa and the SIGNATURES

I didn't tell Saudade or Jester to do it <.<
not my fault

[Noraa]

u missed "himself"

[Noraa]

hm I am going to be honest Noraa, if you are town you are mislynch bait.

60% of your posts are fluff and the rest of your play is just reactionary which I'd normally consider to be a scumtell. You're not really doing anything proactive whatsoever, the readlist you just gave before gives the impression you're not really trying to figure out peoples alignment (like mixing me and bugspray up at this point is really weird to me). It doesnt really feel like youre putting in an effort to solve peoples alignment, however I am not convinced you are scum at all as this could indeed just come from a new player as well but yea if you are town then I sincerely hope you can be a bit more proactive

Apologies. I tend to have that problem but yeah I'm trying to be more helpful and I tend to be called anti-town regardless of my alignment so ur definitely right that I'm mostly just fluff.

@UNOwen I'm going to need to hear some more from you. Some reads or thoughts on the game please

Ask specific questions and you shall receive specific answers.

In general though I think Redados is most suspicious and am surprised there's not more interest in the wagon against him. Shellyc's earlier behaviour with Jackson was also suspicious but it remains to be seen if she has a more compelling explanation for that read. Outside of that I get the impression that despite the high quantity of posts this game is spinning wheels. Jester's read list that was unable to identify scum felt like a fair and honest assessment. Perhaps once saudade is no longer vla, the replacements are made, and the catch-up players have caught up there will be more notable developments. For now I am satisfied with what I am pursuing.

This is one of the posts the I agree with the most in this entire game. I have made a case on Redados for his weak attempt to push a Noraa wagon however it pretty much went ignored. I'm down for a Redados wagon today. He's basically lurking 24/7 and the few times he came in, he just spewed some nonsense or dropped a vote on me with basically no reason. Taylor pointed out earlier that if it was just out of anger that he voted me, he would've dropped the vote later however he never did drop that vote which makes me curious and a bit concerned as to wtf he is doing and thinking.

Ok I'm going to stop procrastinating and high effort this

Jackson is Scum.

Early townread on Noraa whose play isn't really "relaxed" as far as I see it. 141 states they are LHF which is a pretty anti-town stance as noraa's play is just being a fluffposty fence-sitter
225 sheeps town leader jester on their Grendel vote without much explanation / effort done to solve grendel actually, rendering this opportunistic scum wagoning
240 agrees with jester TR on duppin once again, very agreeable play
261 super artificial defense towards my bait? "lmfao" doesn't seem like something town accused of scumslipping would do + they TR me for the bullshit test for ??? reason

Note that jackson keeps saying the word "what" super artificially, the voices are telling me something is wrong with that and idk why would town respond with a million "what"s towards my scumread on them
287 is indecisive on my alignment despite the abundance of info gained from interaction with me
303 proceeds to vote me despite 287, which isn't a very logical trajectory because there was nothing much in between the two posts
one-liners after that mostly commenting on how great meta is which isn't helping us solve the game at all

390 randomly TRs redados for the reason that they're going against the consensus on one read which isnt AI at all
one-liners after that commentating on the hate on readlists which again, isn't a solving mindset and instead serves the purpose of spam
561 when it's an obv town TMI slip on me you continue to deny it
653 suddenly unvotes me for ????? reason without much explanation. the thing jackson is doing is shifting on me alignment without a clear trajectory which doesn't read town re-evaluating since the read shifts so much
661 revotes me again + policy-ing is generally anti-town from what I have seen
677 keeps saying everything is nai, then acording to your logic what's AI lmaooo
then comments randomly on how whether newbscum are self aware which isn't a solving mindset again
then they spend a whole page overreacting super artificially to my inno child thingy, i cant see town going "oh tf i tunnelled the IC", scum would be afraid of that tbh
717 why is claiming IC townie? i dont get this progression at all
826 once again sheeping leadwagon + opportunistic hopping without adding much to the read or solving their alignment

Shelly you told us you had decided to drop your case on Jackson. Why are you bringing it up now that the Saudade wagon is piling up? that combined with the fact that you have only been nice to Saudade this entire round makes me question a shelly/saudade scum team

[Noraa]

^the post's above are trying to tell us that we shouldn't consider u to be the scum on saudade's wagon. However out of all of the people on the wagon, you have the worst reason by far. You're just there to "get the game going" but that is absolutely what scum would say if they didn't want to think up a good reason and not sound like they r sheeping

[Noraa]

My read rn:
Mundivore-town
bugspray-3rd scum?
JacksonVirgo-town
duppin-town
MiniMegabyte-town
Tayl0r Swift/Grendel-town
Odd Day Jester-town
shellyc-scum
Saudade-town
Redados-scum
UNOwen-town
NorwegianboyEE-3rd scum?

My current scum team I think is:
Shelly
Redados
Norwee/bugspray

I'm not at all confident in this scumteam tbh. In fact I'm 100% sure its definitely not completely correct like it might have 1 or 2 of the scum team but I highly highly doubt this is the actual solve of this game. However I'm putting this read out there to start some questions/conversations about me introducing what I think currently, is the scum team. Bring in the questions and I'll try my best to answer and adjust my reads if what is said is reasonable.

[Noraa]

I mean, I just turned Saudade's wagon into a much more viable wagon. By my own reasoning, a Saudade town flip (at

any

point in the game, even if we leave this wagon for a better one) should make me appear more scummy, and a Saudade scum flip should make me appear more town.

I'm aware of the fact that my vote looks more scummy than not. As I said, playing towards the middle is a fine strategy. The point is, I'm making a play that has consequences. Votes, and the ways people react to votes, and the ways people react

with

votes, are the only thing that have consequences and therefore any concrete long-term meaning in this game. If you're serious about your doubt of me, vote for me. Things need to

happen.

Otherwise, town will keep floundering until we run out of time and we're forced to elim the person with the most votes on them just so that we don't give scum an extra kill.

I think your vote is scummy correct but what you did certainly does move the game forward by putting pressure on one player. I'll for now, be thinking of it as town!mundivore trying to move the game forward since I currently have suspicions on other players and I want to Poe u for now.

[Noraa]

page topppppppp yay

[Noraa]

duppin you asked for more content. I produced more content. u satisfied with this amount or no?

[Noraa]

a vote count would be great.

that said afaik the jester wagon is not really viable, and now that ive slept i do think redados probably has more scum equity than jester, so

VOTE: redados

still willing to go saudade, but not until saudade is in the thread and posting.

I may have started the redados wagon but I dont like ur really fast transition here after being criticized for ur other wagon. I almost feel like its a scum!Taylor jumping on this wagon that will slowly start pushing it and later if redados was town, u would blame it on me for starting the wagon. And if redados is ur scum partner, u would get lots of town credit for bussing him. I'm not liking the vibes I'm getting here. I agree I wasn't particularly paying too much attention in the newbie that just ended however ur tone here is definitely different. I'll keep you at a TR for now but ur definitely looking fishy as of rn and you will definitely be replacing redados in my SRs if he flips green not red. If he flips red, it would be a lil strange for scums to bus one of their partners day 1 but it would also get u a shit shit shit ton of town cred which if ur an independent kind of scum, that's what u would do. I have fishy vibes on Taylor rn. Can anyone agree with me here? If I get some sort of confirmation that I am indeed not insane, I may be considering replacing bugspray/Norwee with her as the third scum

[Noraa]

Bc my current guess for the scum team is
Redados
Shelly
Norwee/bugspray

From most confident to least confident and I'm kinda wanting to replace the last slot that I have close to zero confidence on with Taylor

[Noraa]

U have never had a case on Redados

[Noraa]

There was nothing specifically saying why. It sounded to me like, "oh no one likes my reasons for being on saudade so I'll just switch to the Redados wagon now"

[Noraa]

I have fishy vibes on Taylor rn. Can anyone agree with me here?

Well yeah, i agree with u.
Don't know how u feel about 3rd scum candidate agreeing with you on that tho.

Third scum slot is the weakest slot rn that is based on basically 99% gut which is pretty unreliable. I'll keep this post in mind and it'll be part of the reason I switch u out for Taylor if I end up doing that.

There was nothing specifically saying why. It sounded to me like, "oh no one likes my reasons for being on saudade so I'll just switch to the Redados wagon now"

That's fairly reasonable though? If one of your scumreads doesn't have traction it makes sense to re-assess and move on to the other. I actually agree that Taylor has a different vibe this game, but I wonder if that's not just because she has replaced in this time and so isn't settled. I'm not viewing her as suspicious currently so that definitely suggests some difference!

When u move on, u have to still have some sort of reason. She didn't offer any reasons. It just looked like scum backpedalling.

Redados why did you vote Noraa?

was very frustrated at her and felt like my vote was the most powerful way I could show my anger

now that I have calmed down, I will leave my vote where it is.

if the vote was an anger vote, the normal reaction upon not being angry would be to unvote and apologize i feel like

ok im all caught up.

yes, im caught up from the very beginning.

of page 30.

so far redados is scummy
not sure why shelly is pushing me, it seems no one else agrees? shelly has had some interesting takes.
im watching noraa.
does norwee roll only scum in normals?

Spoiler:

Gonna look through Saudade's ISO to find everything that is potentially scum behavior

What a lively bunch

So far you're all doing great

It's interesting that Saudade enters this game with the mentality of being the reasonable person overlooking everything. Don't know what to make of it here.

VOTE: minimegaexcept this one, such a weak entrance

saude top tier read time

tbh i don't think the entrance was very weak? explain

Well she felt the need to explain her rvs vote.. like an excuse
And the first post beforehand was a quote to something not game related either

Weak reasons to vote Mini. Especially the first point, given 63 was an answer to Gendel's RVS questions, and WAS game related.

Its not a super strong read since the user didnt post afterwards but it feels like she tried to get some posts in just to be done with it rather than contribute

This is also strange because Mini does post more after the two posts Saudade is talking about. From 149 to 205

Its not a super strong read since the user didnt post afterwards but it feels like she tried to get some posts in just to be done with it rather than contribute

mega did post afterwards

Oh i missee it, what page

Oh, okay, he apparently missed that. Missing all of those other Mini posts however shows he didn't read the thread very closely at all, and did not bother to ISO Mini, it indicates a lack of interest in solving.

I'm fine with this for a bit, I don't quite understand what are you all fighting so energetically about though

This post comes in while shelly is warring against Jacko/I. I really don't like this one, it's like trying to play the calm mediator, it just rubs me the wrong way but I can't exactly articulate why.

saude you think we are TvT then?

it's way too early for me to tell what alignment either of you are

Eh, not even any preliminary thoughts on the top two posters at the time?

see shelly was just a hungry girl that explains her overall angry attitude and inconsistent mood swings on everyone

it seems like she knows shes town therefore anyone scumreading her must be scum because shes such an obvious town player from her point of view

Then, these posts + 459 come out in defense of shelly. This is contradictory to his opinion in 310 where he says he's fine with a shelly wagon. I don't if this is protecting a scum buddy or a white knight, but it rubs me wrong way, because I don't like any of the reasons for the defense.

Hmmmmmmm i dont like grendel

I may be wrong but did he just shade every single active slot in one way or another

Why the "I may be wrong"? So non-committal.

it's been a while since two people have voted me in a game, what a wonderful feeling

Trying to show he doesn't care. Maybe he town!him actually doesn't? but it's plausible this is scum!him faking it

Overall I'd say this is a scumread after doing that.

what was the motivation for doing this jester? it seems like you were searching for an excuse to scumread someone rather than trying to sort someone.

redados and jester are topscum for me at this point.

VOTE: jester
but id also be happy to vote redados

ok here is my progression on redados which actually doesnt have as much as i thought it did.

Ah so you literally admit that u had nothing. This just makes u seem more scummy tho...

[Noraa]

where's the manipulation? you do look like a scum backpedalling rn. its an opinion of mine that is based off of facts

[Noraa]

I cannot for the life of me find the quote that I'm trying to find but basically it was a post that someone posted that said that they were fine with Grendel but not with Taylor.

What I wanted to say is that I 100% agree with that now. There were suspicions raised on Grendel a while ago and I basically just ignored them bc Grendel seemed fine to me. But now that Taylor replaced in, I'm starting to really get some scum vibes around there and am starting to suspect that Grendel was actually just a scum that knew how to stay hidden well. Little did he know, his replacer doesn't

[Noraa]

You really think I pay attention to anyone or anything in my scum games -_____-
if u thought yes then ur really wrong

[Noraa]

OK IM OFFICIALLY CAUGHT UP

caught up to here rn, taking notes in my personal pt so that i have actual damn reads

when your caught up, what are your thoughts on :

shellyvjackson
taylorvnoraa

[Noraa]

Ah have fun reading then ^^
out of the 40 pages, half are just complete fluff so it shouldn't be hard to skim

[Noraa]

OK IM OFFICIALLY CAUGHT UP

caught up to here rn, taking notes in my personal pt so that i have actual damn reads

when your caught up, what are your thoughts on :

shellyvjackson
taylorvnoraa

Im really interested why you cherry picked these interactions instead of others that I was finding more interesting during my catchup (still in progress, going very slow)
i think the brief NBEE and JV clash had information that will be very useful if one of them flips and that redados spurred many interesting interactions

I picked these two cuz I thought they were the biggest tornadoes around here. Tell me more about the NEEvJackson. Personally low-key think they r both town so I don't see anything there. Redados did a lot of strange things so a Redados flip is definitely helpful for sorting out all this stuff.

[Noraa]

Redados is my strongest SR so obviously I will want a redados lim over the rest

[Noraa]

Noraa is my strongest SR so obviously I will want a noraa lim over the rest

ooooo fun. lemme hear if ur case is any good

[Noraa]

Saudade already told us why his posts might be a bit strange lately so we shouldn't push there ... at least until day 2.
Redados on the other hand has zero excuse. He just is scummy.

[Noraa]

Tayl0r Swift is now a likely scumbuddy if saudade flips scum (supports the competing wagon). Tayl0r Swift is essentially confirmed town if Redados flips scum.

This seems a bit too lenient? Because bussing exists and if scum views Redados an an vanity wagon then they might vote there to switch back later. Or maybe it’s even TvT wagons.

I think Mundivore's making a somewhat good point. It might be a bit lenient but it definitely is +town points for him bc he def is thinking from a town perspective. Or he's a really good liar and since I've only played with town!Mundivore, I'm not sure.

[Noraa]

Hey y’all, I’m still here and planning to do a catch up tomorrow cause it looks like I’ve missed a lot. Don’t have time today. I will reread the whole game.

UNVOTE:

votes with no reason
unvotes with no reason

VOTE: Redados

Scum aint being so slick

[Noraa]

is anyone getting stronger and stronger scumpings on noraa

and can someone actually case saude for once instead of "oh hes been inactive" + "META"

You say this right after you jump on a wagon I started. If you're so certain I'm scum, why are you on a wagon I started instead of starting a wagon on me? Shelly ur just flipflopping like hell. You start planning a Jackson lim all the while sussing Grendel and me. That fails so you jump to Grendel while continuing to sus Jackson and me. That fails so you jump to Redados and continue to fucking sus me. since ur so sus of me, why don't you directly come at me? Why do you keep Fosing me while voting everyone else? Is it because you're setting me up as limbait? EXPLAIN

[Noraa]

I no like u hmph >:(

[Noraa]

Your readlist looks awfully like mine and if I were u I would be pointing my finger all over the place with accusations right about now

[Noraa]

No I TR grendel but SR Taylor and since Taylor is the one currently in the slot, then my TR on Grendel means nothing

[Noraa]

Also its "like" not "as"

[Noraa]

Grendel literally posted like a hot ten posts. And during those ten posts, I had a pretty null and sorta leaning town read on them. However Taylor did not at all match these reads.

[Noraa]

make a big ugly quote wall and tell me where tf grendel's posts indicated a town mindset

because I think taylor townier than grendel's play tbh, also considering taylor's super bad at obvtowning (no offence, and im also super bad at it)

hm ur pocketing. this reminds me of me pocketing plus in doggos but alright I will make the wall if I feel like it in a bit

[Noraa]

First game here in a while. Im interested to see how site meta has changed, what the players are like now, how I hold up as a player, etc

Please do me a favor and outline your typical playstyle with these questions:

Intuitive, or analytical?
Independent, or Collaborative?
Aggressive, or Passive?

I will respond to my own questions once I get some responses to the survey. As this is my first post I would also like to say good luck to you all! Hopefully this will be a good game!

This definitely reads as townie trying to get a grasp on everyone. This is kinda like when someone metadives everyone, u generally think if they r willing to put in that much time/effort, they are more likely town than scum.

where did all these pages come from haha?

Personally I'd like if the players pushing meta stuff the hardest can site some sources. Im not gonna fact check that stuff alone.

Correct me if im wrong (I skimmed) but: (Shelly, Jackson, Jester, Redodoas, Noraa) all have meta on eachother, and some of it is offsite?

Can you please hold my hand like im a small child and talk me through the reads you have on one another.

-/-/-/-/

Im not super inclined to support the Sundade TR that has been cropping up in peoples reads. Its really easy for scum to play the reasonable town thinker in a situation where most players are playing an overtly aggressive game.

Norigwee I think was reasonably town for pointing out the Jester/Red were reaction testing by posting silly things. I think mafia would prefer to do something safe like sit on a an existing wagon there.

Noraa's mod vote is a silly early game distraction i see mafia doing more so then town. At least thats how it is on my Home site. This isnt directly Noraa's fualt, but the copy pasta thing is annoying, and clogging up the thread.

idk the alignments of Jackson, and SHelly, but i do think that thier 1v1 hasnt been very helpful thus far. Shelly i can at least say isnt burying all her energy into the vs Jackson, and has some reads elsewhere.

Jester I wanna say is town for drawing lot of attention to himself, and for doing stuff outside of his meta reads.

Red himself isnt super AI. But i recall players discrediting his play at some point, so that points to him not being scum with that person, or people.

Mini i could probably vote as they seem to lacking presence, and not getting much attention. (Was anybody voting there?)

I guess I have nothing to say about the rest of the people.

This is a pretty good read ngl. They got all the important stuff and all.

either way it seems... just not how I'd imagine scum would play this situation out

Normally I'd be inclined to agree, because why does scum lie about that so unnecessarily? But this is actually just how scum!shelly plays, she constantly backpedals on things when called out on them, and "flails" for lack of a better term (and this is why you don't ignore meta).

Show me some examples please?

Actully, i think that Jackson's world view just makes more sense to me as town then mafia.

Since everybody is digging into Shelly's meta i feel obligated to read some of her past games, but i'll have to do it tomarrow.

VOTE: Shelly

this just makes me think ur SR on them is prolly cuz they voted u which is typical scum!shelly play right?

Hey guys, just giving you all a heads up that im subbing out.

Really sorry, coming back to this forum was probably a mistake. I thought I could keep up, but it doesn't appear that I can. Good luck to the rest of you.

ngl this reads pretty damn genuine to me

[Noraa]

As much as Grendel, I TRed, I seriously am not seeing a town!taylor and that is making it really hard for me.

[Noraa]

I TR the predecessor correct but my reads have changed since then. Is that a problem?

[Noraa]

Grendel literally posted like a hot ten posts. And during those ten posts, I had a pretty null and sorta leaning town read on them. However Taylor did not at all match these reads.

am i not a hot ten?

no ur not a hot 10. ur a hot 50 and a scummy hot 50 at that

[Noraa]

Bc Taylor is the current slot holder
ofc she gets priority

[Noraa]

Grendel literally posted like a hot ten posts. And during those ten posts, I had a pretty null and sorta leaning town read on them. However Taylor did not at all match these reads.

am i not a hot ten?

no ur not a hot 10. ur a hot 50 and a scummy hot 50 at that

im not sure what grading scale youre using here, so i dont know how to feel about that

the scale is based on how many posts you approximately have posted in this thread. I just say hot cuz I like saying hot. Ex: hot Cheetos are superior to Cheetos so a hot post is superior to a post so I say hot everywhere

[Noraa]

Bc Taylor is the current slot holder
ofc she gets priority

??????

they don't? grendel got the same rolecard as taylor, so idk what logic this is

Taylor is the current slot holder and she's posted far more than Grendel and her scum vibes are stronger than Grendels towny vibes. Ofc I will end up SRing the slot. I've SRed her for a while now. And now ur like oh nuuu it seems my little scum team doesn't work out.

[Noraa]

youre an ordinary noraa, maybe you could upgrade to a hot noraa?

I am always hot

[Noraa]

Taylor's replies to my SRs have been awfully calm tho which is kinda throwing me off a bit. I'm not quite too sure if I'm correct with my SR but I've never played a game with scum!Taylor so I'm worrying a lil that this may be AI

[Noraa]

Idk the prob is that I've played with town!Taylor but I wasn't paying any attention whatsoever so I might as well have never played that game. I gained nothing from it except a little bit more experience as scum

[Noraa]

I didn't get anything from that game as I said bc I was looking at the game from a completely different perspective. Either way I do think ur scummy and the post above just sounds really flimsy, weak, and scummy. It's definitely not true to say that you aren't SRed by anyone but me but anyways my read on u flip-flops a bit and I'll have to think about whether I want to settle on a town!Taylor or a scum!Taylor

[Noraa]

that'll vastly change my reads since a lot of people have interacted with u at this point

[Noraa]

I dont see why you should be disappointed. I played one game as scum with u which basically means I didn't get any meta on u. literally nada. also *sigh* that does sound like AtE -______-
anyways I won't hold it against u cuz u specifically said [no AtE here] but if I wrongly push town!Taylor, apologies in advance bc I'm fairly certain I will be pushing ur wagon due to the pretty strong scum vibes I get from u. however this game, I am paying attention so if I realize its just ur playstyle that's scummy, u will get the benefit of the doubt next round I play with u.

[Noraa]

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PAGE TOPPPP

[Noraa]

VOTE: shellyc

I have an operating theory that opportunistic wagoning is one of shelly's scumtells. The source of this theory is that when other people do it, she calls them scummy.

The fact that she applied her vote to the Redados wagon to make it 'actually useful' without much additional reasoning and didn't do the same on the saudade wagon smells off to me.

did she call it scummy when she was town or scum? If scum, this logic doesn't apply cuz scum make up all their reasoning since they know who the scums are

[Noraa]

Uhhh self awareness = scum because of the simple reason that scum's job is to avoid being limmed and being self aware furthers that

town's job is to scumhunt. scum's job is to look like town. do i need to explain further than that?

town has the job of avoiding being mislimmed. being self-aware furthers that. you can be self-aware and scumhunt. this is an awful argument.

well see I think this argument is bad for a different reason. Both alignments are self aware to some extent so at this point, its not really AI, its more how much they do it. But I think generally scums will prolly be more self aware. However it's different for every person so its not great reasoning to use to back up a SR

[Noraa]

So basically you just say I'm scum for being unhelpful, immature, sheepy, "flailing", TRing uno, and fluffing.

Ok hold up lets go thru and address these accusations.
Unhelpful. Is dropping an anger vote on me and then refusing to take it back and then disappearing from the thread helpful?
Immature. Dude I think we both know whose older here. Pointing at me and saying I'm scummy for being immature is stupid. The mods dont choose the scums based on immaturity
Sheepy. If I'm scum for sheeping, where's mini?
Flailing. No you accuse me of being scum in those posts for my damn playstyle and u do this to shelly so much that I had to point it out and tell u to stop otherwise u will just continue to do this. Ur being a bad sport by randomly accusing me of being scum just bc I was scum in doggos. What happened there has nothing to do with here or at least not the way ur saying it is. U wanna use meta? fine. But u wanna say "oh her play style scummy = she is scum every round" NO
TRing uno. Since when was I not allowed to TR whoever I want to TR? Now I have to get permission to TR otherwise I get accused of being scum? what kind of bs is this.
Fluffing. Do u see any games where I dont deal mostly in fluff?

This is a BS read. I think everyone on the Saudade and Taylor wagons need to reconsider. Redados is seriously just spewing a lot of absolute bs here. Half this read is just responding to other peoples posts and sheeping them. The other half is just random accusations thrown around here and there.

"use the enter key"
someone else already said it and u sure as hell saw it

"why are you town reading UNOwen????? That’s super duper sus!!!!!!"
Wow sooo helpful

"you are aggressive, Noraa"
what in the literal fuck

"You'll never be a clown like them"
seriously wtf

[Noraa]

EVERYONE I REPEAT EVERYONE must read thru that huge wall.
Tell me if I'm the only one thinking its absolute bs.

[Noraa]

Im actually going to be very pissed if anyone agrees with that wall and starts sussing people based on it. My reads are terrible I admit but I think even I put more effort in as scum, I repeat AS SCUM. This is a terrible terrible look for Redados here and I honestly will be very very shocked if he is town

[Noraa]

Uno is town for taking my read into account. Most people passed on it since it wasn't that strong but he actually tried to see if he could get more about it and that's literally the only reasons ur SRing him - bc he agrees with me that we have a scum!Redados. U suck at OMGUSing

[Noraa]

I've never tunneled hard in a towngame before but idc no more. I think ur scum. I'm ticked off at ur terrible scum play and have no idea how tf u thought it would work with so many SEs around and I'm pretty convinced ur scum.

VOTE: REDADOS

DIE SCUM

[Noraa]

phew anger is fun <.<

[Noraa]

No Noraa level weak and scummy is one thing. That shit read was a whole different level of weak and scummy

[Noraa]

uno get straight to the tea. Redados' most recent posts

[Noraa]

All of his SRs have zero good reasoning/logic/evidence backing them up