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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:43 am

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In post 570, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 242, Saudade wrote:
In post 237, shellyc wrote:
In post 230, Saudade wrote:VOTE: minimegaexcept this one, such a weak entrance
saude top tier read time

tbh i don't think the entrance was very weak? explain
Well she felt the need to explain her rvs vote.. like an excuse
And the first post beforehand was a quote to something not game related either
Saudade explaining his reads. Lockscum.
I am seeing this as a joke but does this hold any actual weight?
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:44 am

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In post 650, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 570, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 242, Saudade wrote:
In post 237, shellyc wrote:
In post 230, Saudade wrote:VOTE: minimegaexcept this one, such a weak entrance
saude top tier read time

tbh i don't think the entrance was very weak? explain
Well she felt the need to explain her rvs vote.. like an excuse
And the first post beforehand was a quote to something not game related either
Saudade explaining his reads. Lockscum.
I am seeing this as a joke but does this hold any actual weight?
Like all good jokes there's always a grain of truth in it.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:45 am

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In post 594, duppin wrote:well thats a lot of spam, i guess the timezone difference could end up being an issue
i almost want to vote norwegianboyee for the annoying one line spam but given you are probably the only one in the same timezome as me ill ignore it for now

Anyway I don't really want to argue against the townreads on me because I think that is awkward, however what I will say is that I would probably not townread someone for doing it because I am of the opinion that as scum it is very easy to push policy lynches as it is easy to justify and a good way of participating in the game.
In other words if Jester is town then it would be very easy for scum to justify a vote on him because due to his play he is pretty much just a policy lynch at this point.
I actually agree with what Jester said regarding meta and I am sure he understands that that is why I am voting on him. Do I believe Jester is scum? I am of the opinion that it would be dumb and a bit shitty towards your teammates to vote on yourself as scum as it is an easy way to put yourself out as a policy lynch - but I absolutely refuse to townread for him. I am also of the opinion that town should absolutely never vote on themselves because the only one they know for certain is town is themselves. I believe giving someone a pass for self voting is a big mistake as it essentially opens up for scum doing it for easy town credit in the long run.
I also think it is an easy way for Jester to try to make it part of his meta and I think that is awful so no matter what his alignment is I will push for it out of principle. So yes if Jester continues voting on himself I will also vote on him
I hope you're not expecting me to read any of that
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:47 am

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UNVOTE: shelly
fwiw I think I fell into a tunnel like I tend to be doing lately.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:49 am

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Guys I am in a dilemma. It's 11pm almost rn and I start work at 11am and finish at 7pm. My girlfriend is also working but they start earlier. I can either go with her to work (leaving at 4:30am) or do I stay asleep for a bit and bike to work at around 10am.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:51 am

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In post 654, JacksonVirgo wrote:Guys I am in a dilemma. It's 11pm almost rn and I start work at 11am and finish at 7pm. My girlfriend is also working but they start earlier. I can either go with her to work (leaving at 4:30am) or do I stay asleep for a bit and bike to work at around 10am.
I say "my girlfriend" forgetting that she's playing this game and will definitely see this and now I am going to be in so much shit lmfaooooooooooooooo

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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:52 am

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Fwiw, I think Norwegian, Noraa, ODJ and Mini are town.
Could people explain to me why bugspray is so high in peoples reads?
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:54 am

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I'm off to sleep now, I might just sleep in.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:55 am

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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:55 am

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I am tired, leave me alone lol
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:59 am

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In post 645, shellyc wrote:hi UNO! I just read one of your games yesterday, pretty solid scumplay.

can you give me your thoughts so my mind has something to work with
My thoughts are rubbish and that I will probably end up having to take notes or something to keep track. But I'm not trusting you so far. I don't believe in your reason for suspecting Jackson and I don't get the impression you believe in it either.
In post 646, shellyc wrote: redados' never been scum probably, so if anything the self aware play is town indicative
Why would this be? Self aware suggests nerves which fits well with first time scum. I think the way he is scumreading two players who have caught flack but qualifying it by saying it is based on play style looks like he is trying to keep his options open.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:00 am

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Gut still pings me that shelly is scum, and even if they're not. They're acting anti-town as hell
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:01 am

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Chocolate?
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:01 am

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Strawberry?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:02 am

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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:02 am

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Ignore me I think I'm drunk from tiredness. Night all
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:02 am

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In post 660, UNOwen wrote:My thoughts are rubbish and that I will probably end up having to take notes or something to keep track. But I'm not trusting you so far. I don't believe in your reason for suspecting Jackson and I don't get the impression you believe in it either.
ok lets dive deeper

Firstly I believe in my reason for SR'ing jackson and ive made that pretty clear so you're shading me
Secondly this is a chainsaw, if scum!jackson then probably scum!UNO as well
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:03 am

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jackson just unvoted and then voted for ????? reason

your gut is wrong btw
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:04 am

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In post 660, UNOwen wrote:Why would this be? Self aware suggests nerves which fits well with first time scum. I think the way he is scumreading two players who have caught flack but qualifying it by saying it is based on play style looks like he is trying to keep his options open.
YES I BAITED IT! There we go.

Sheeping reads isn't a great look UNO.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:04 am

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In post 656, JacksonVirgo wrote:Could people explain to me why bugspray is so high in peoples reads?
cause bugs pressed onto noraa early?
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:06 am

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@shelly. People disagreeing with you or agreeing with scum is not AI by itself. In the perspective of scum!me, what about that makes UNOwen scum and not town that's just reading you as scum.

pedit: If it's wrong then it's wrong.


pedit2: Sheeping is not exactly the same as reciprocating reads, at least not in my vocabulary. Even if they're the same thing in other's reads as soon as anyone does a second vote on a player are you going to SR them? Lmfao

Also you're very insistant on doing reaciton tests that literally aren't doing anything except make you look like an idiot.

pedit3: That isn't town!ai what
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In post 667, shellyc wrote:jackson just unvoted and then voted for ????? reason

your gut is wrong btw
I literally said the reasons for both, thanks for shading
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:08 am

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In post 661, JacksonVirgo wrote:They're acting anti-town as hell
my play is incredibly protown

my noraa read got us out of RVS
my jackson bait + read sparked a whole discussion giving the plist a whole avenue to sort us
I got the grendel wagon moving
why tf would I spend my time baiting and giving reads as scum
why tf would I make the whole plist hate me

tell me how my play is scum indicative
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:09 am

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In post 666, shellyc wrote: Firstly I believe in my reason for SR'ing jackson and ive made that pretty clear so you're shading me
Secondly this is a chainsaw, if scum!jackson then probably scum!UNO as well
You have such high confidence in JV scum based on the reaction to your "bait" post? I can't see how you could be convinced on that.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:09 am

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In post 670, JacksonVirgo wrote:@shelly. People disagreeing with you or agreeing with scum is not AI by itself. In the perspective of scum!me, what about that makes UNOwen scum and not town that's just reading you as scum.

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pedit2: Sheeping is not exactly the same as reciprocating reads, at least not in my vocabulary. Even if they're the same thing in other's reads as soon as anyone does a second vote on a player are you going to SR them? Lmfao

Also you're very insistant on doing reaciton tests that literally aren't doing anything except make you look like an idiot.

pedit3: That isn't town!ai what
sheeping is done without thought
what UNO just did was almost verbatim of what the dippy guy did - a scumread on red with almost the same reason
they're not adding anything
they're straight out copying
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