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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:00 pm

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In post 604, iamausername wrote:
In post 579, TheGoldenParadox wrote: those three reads are entirely self-consistent.
In post 528, TheGoldenParadox wrote:rn i think noraa is just newbie town, but being confident in bm!scum within the first day
doesn't really scream town
; noraa will stay at a light townread.
In post 532, TheGoldenParadox wrote:also nora's reads on menal and me
scream newbtown
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are you sure about that
apologize - my mistake, i should have looked at that more closely. my read is basically "noraa is new, and their game is far closer to newbtown than newbscum. that being said, they are also doing things that i would generally consider scummy and antitown."
In post 614, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 591, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 582, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 579, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 574, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 571, iamausername wrote:my fun fact is that i think both Ico and Noraa are town, and they're both voting TheGoldenParadox for what i think are bad reasons, but i think they've managed to hit scum anyway
In post 528, TheGoldenParadox wrote: scumreading Iconeum because i don't really see their logic on voting me as being town-motivated - my vote will stay where it is for now, but that will change if ico gets noticably scummier.
In post 535, TheGoldenParadox wrote:you're looking really defensive to me right now, so while i'm staying with my light townlean, i'm not confident in it either.
neither of these quotes feel like TGP is talking his reads as about actual opinions that he has, they feel like they are conscious choices that he is making, and the way he is threatening to upgrade them to scumreads to try to get the people voting him to back off is scummy as hell.

also, the progression from
In post 528, TheGoldenParadox wrote:rn i think noraa is just newbie town, but being confident in bm!scum within the first day doesn't really scream town; noraa will stay at a light townread.
to
In post 532, TheGoldenParadox wrote:also nora's reads on menal and me scream newbtown.
to
In post 535, TheGoldenParadox wrote:do i think your scumreads on menal and me are legitimate instead of simply trying to generate empty content? no, not really.
in the space of like half an hour makes absolutely no sense

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox
was he just catching up on the game? if so, kinda figures his reads would evolve quickly.
i was to some extent, but those three reads are entirely self-consistent. i think noraa is newbtown, i'm not confident about that read so it's more of a lean, but their actual reads are not reads that i believe are helpful or incredibly legitimate. town, especially newbtown, can generate empty content as well as opposed to actual reads, and town can create fluff. i know i did that when i was newbtown.
In post 575, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 573, iamausername wrote:
In post 571, iamausername wrote: neither of these quotes feel like TGP is talking his reads as about actual opinions that he has
...i don't know how the word 'about' managed to move a whole three places to the right in this sentence. "talking about his reads as", that should say.
you were re-reading the post later then eh? why?
In post 576, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: iamausername
i really don't like this vote, but
i haven't played with BM and don't know if this is normal for them
- if someone has, that would be cool to know. for now, that vote feels really... random to me in a game that is by now definitely out of RVS,
especially for you, BM
.
I don't like some things about you.

1. I don't like how you over-egg things with emotive language like "really" all the time, to try and bolster your weak positions. In reality it just makes it look like you are tailspinning out of control.
2. I don't like how you have singled me (and only me?) out twice, with very little justification, for 2 unrelated, random and not particularly credible things. The second is worse, and feels a little like scum just trying to buy consistency points by targetting the same player, but being fundamentally too lazy to come up with anything robust.
3. I don't like that in red above, you initially acknowledged you hadn't played with me, and had no idea what my normal play is. Then in blue above, you pretend you do know how I play to strengthen your argument.

I'm amused that you didn't just lap up my defence of you, as it's consistent with my hypothesis - you are trying to keep targetting me to avoid attention - it wouldn't do to simply agree with me, even if you actually did, you had to spin in a way which made it sound like I was wrong (which in isolation, actually makes you look worse anyway).

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Golden Paradox

I got one, ma.
lit, glad you think so. to clarify - "especially for you, BM" was because you specifically were in a fight with nora and had produced quite a bit of content. and no,
i won't lap up your buddying attempts
. sorry bout it.
It's too colloquial in my book. Just empty shade, with nothing backing it up. As is the red above. I definitely haven't buddied with you (you'd know it if I did, eh Bob? ;) ). You're just limply clutching at straws to try and appear like you are scumhunting.

Reading your previous games was not hugely conclusive about your alignment. You tend to get eliminated Day 1 all the freakin' time, so not much data to work with. You seem to be slightly higher on effort as scum, which goes in your favour here. However you are also decidedly more aggressive as town - and here you've been pretty gentle which is more like your scumgame.
i do tend to get lynched d1 - glad you noticed! you are completely correct about your meta, and it's going to be completely unhelpful to you because the last real games i played were something like two years ago. best practice would probably be to meta me like a newbie w/ no games played, because information about my playstyle and personality from that long ago isn't going to help you here.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:04 pm

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TGP youre a effing noob, please stop posting, we are waiting for a very important post from Bob.


How was that?
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:07 pm

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Love it! tone down the rudeness, outright hostility, and bullshit, and we'll get along just great.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:08 pm

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Vote Bob and il do all of the above =)
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:10 pm

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In post 646, Alonzo wrote:Noraa do you know how to iso individual players? Your generalised reads read like you don't.

Mage- Behave!

Username- my name's not on the list because maybe knew he'd be in a world of shit if it was? But id be in your list dependant on the size of the world of shit mage would be in?

I don't understand the question.
I do actually. But I haven't done it this game yet which I should change that soon. I normally wait a bit until I start ISOing but ur right I should start
In post 651, Alonzo wrote:TGP youre a effing noob, please stop posting, we are waiting for a very important post from Bob.


How was that?
be nice to noobs >:((((((
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:13 pm

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I'm good to everyone who's good to me, I'm blind like that.
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:19 pm

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there's lots of good eye doctors around :3
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:22 pm

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Some are more attentive than others

Amirite ? @bob
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:22 pm

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speaking of which where tf did that dude disappear off to?
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:22 pm

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Talking of scummy, how does that manquiro scummer sleep without drugs?
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:23 pm

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*menalque
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:24 pm

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I know BS when I see it
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:25 pm

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And why isn't Taylor swift up here doing a little dance?

More false advertising.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:25 pm

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you think mena and bob are scum together?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:25 pm

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Taylor dances for no one
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:27 pm

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In post 663, Noraa wrote:you think mena and bob are scum together?
I think both are good fits for mages partner.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:28 pm

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In post 664, Noraa wrote:Taylor dances for no one

3 tril in the bank says otherwise.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:29 pm

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In post 665, Alonzo wrote:
In post 663, Noraa wrote:you think mena and bob are scum together?
I think both are good fits for mages partner.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:30 pm

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Or Nora's.

I'm not picking sides. I'm like the distraught child in the middle.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:30 pm

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Hm good point. I could see a bm/mena and a bm/bob scumteam.
however I think bm is basically a confscum(at least in my head) which is why imma tunnel some more and hopefully get a good case on him bc I want a bm lim today
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:31 pm

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In post 668, Alonzo wrote:Or Nora's.

I'm not picking sides. I'm like the distraught child in the middle.
fair enough ngl I could see why Im seeming scummy here.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:34 pm

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noraa why the hell are you defending a confscum read there is no way you (or any of us for that matter) are good enough to confirm that someone is scum in the first two irl days
if bm was such strongly scum, we would all see the thing that you did. bm has not been voted by that many people, so either a newbie is correct on a "confirmed scum" read that not that many other people in the game see, or you're wrong. tell me which one you think is more likely.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:39 pm

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I think he's confscum. I know no one agrees. So what? I think what I think and my job is to try to prove myself correct or change my read if I later start thinking its not him. Do u have a problem with that?
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:42 pm

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In post 672, Noraa wrote:I think he's confscum. I know no one agrees. So what? I think what I think and my job is to try to prove myself correct or change my read if I later start thinking its not him. Do u have a problem with that?
Oi.

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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:44 pm

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In post 673, Alonzo wrote:
In post 672, Noraa wrote:I think he's confscum. I know no one agrees. So what? I think what I think and my job is to try to prove myself correct or change my read if I later start thinking its not him. Do u have a problem with that?
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