Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 1.3

MURDERCAT

(4): Panzerjager, Blitzo, Noraa, Gamma Emerald

Thestatusquo

(2): PookyTheMagicalBear, Kasumeat

Gamma Emerald

(2): OutWorldER, duppin

Kasumeat

(2): Thestatusquo, UneducatedGuesser

OutWorldER

(1): Not_Mafia

Noraa

(1): MURDERCAT

Not voting

(1): The Bulge

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to yeet someone.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-10-12 14:30:00)

[The Bulge]

thanks

VOTE: Kasumeat

[The Bulge]

also welcome back shea, good to see you!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well he does not consider it lucky - i think he is quite upset he hasn't gotten to be scum yet lol

talk to me about this?

What would you like to know?

[Blitzo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: kasu

I'm more comfortable with this wagon at this point, and I'm cool with voting with bulge right now.

[Blitzo]

Pooky are you feeling TSQ as scum at this stage or why is your vote there?

[Kasumeat]

you think shea is scum for real or just posturing?

I was leaning town on him but his explanation for his SR on me is just so scummy. It hinges entirely on my RVS vote being an attempt to "ramp up a wagon" with 0 people on it and then saying that my SR on Blitzo makes no sense because I'm saying his post is NIA when I'm saying it was either NIA or scummy, so it amounts to a slight SR. I've never played with Shea before but his "read" on me just seems extremely fake which is scummy in my books

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky are you feeling TSQ as scum at this stage or why is your vote there?

it's my RVS vote and because Shea is a good friend from a long time ago and he deserves my love

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you think shea is scum for real or just posturing?

I was leaning town on him but his explanation for his SR on me is just so scummy. It hinges entirely on my RVS vote being an attempt to "ramp up a wagon" with 0 people on it and then saying that my SR on Blitzo makes no sense because I'm saying his post is NIA when I'm saying it was either NIA or scummy, so it amounts to a slight SR. I've never played with Shea before but his "read" on me just seems extremely fake which is scummy in my books

Ok but why would scum make a fake read in early day 1? Do you think you are getting shitpushed here?

[Kasumeat]

lets break this down:

As for not participating in the discussion at the time, I work in restaurants which means I'm not on a computer and I only have a minute here or there to phonepost when I'm working in the afternoons/evenings EST.

My point had nothing to do with activity. It had to do with something being weird and you deciding that the best course of action wasn't to prod it like others were doing to try to decide if its alignment indicative but to vote it and then just sort of just leave it out there.

In 154 I'm saying that I'm torn between whether Blitzo's weirdness is NAI or scummy. So with one possibility making me null on him and the other making me SR him, in what fucking universe does that mean I should still be null on him? Because that's exactly what you're saying.

That's not what that post says at all though? You say "player is doing X thing which is only something I would expect from newbies so I don't understand why an experienced player would do it."

You do say that "his posting style is unnatural because hes scum" but that point just doesnt make any sense. Thats just not even remotely how being uncomfortable as scum manifests itself.

"You were trying to ramp up a wagon" is bullshit. Ramp up the wagon with literally nobody on it?

My point, which perhaps I did not explain well wasn't implying that you were trying to yeet a townie (as an aside please don't use the word you used here) but rather that you were reading momentum. There had already been two pointed questions directed to that player, so you jumping on and voting seems like its trying to put pressure on in a situation where it wasnt warrented and would be safe for you to be at the front of the wagon if a wagon did develop. I didn't like your timing and I didn't like your decision to just pile on a vote instead of just waiting for the player to answer the question 2 people had already asked.

Now my greatest reason for scum reading you is that reaction you just had to being voted is heinous.

I DID prod by asking Blitzo about his experience because him being inexperienced (maybe he made an account years ago and never played with it?) is the most sensible reason I can see for him to react the way he did. He explained that he has some experience so that is enough for me for a day D1 SR.

As for how people tending to play scum differently than I believe they do, sure, maybe I'm wrong about that. I'm sure you do know better than me. I have very little experience playing scum and never on this site. However, the best scumhunting I've done has been either straightforward stuff like catching slips, or more often, by catching experienced scum players trying to push the exact same "you're wrong about what makes people scummy/townie therefore you're scum" on me which is exactly what you're doing now.

[The Bulge]

you think shea is scum for real or just posturing?

I was leaning town on him but his explanation for his SR on me is just so scummy. It hinges entirely on my RVS vote being an attempt to "ramp up a wagon" with 0 people on it and then saying that my SR on Blitzo makes no sense because I'm saying his post is NIA when I'm saying it was either NIA or scummy, so it amounts to a slight SR. I've never played with Shea before but his "read" on me just seems extremely fake which is scummy in my books

Ok but why would scum make a fake read in early day 1? Do you think you are getting shitpushed here?

any push at any stage that scum makes is fake, no?

[The Bulge]

im seeing the "caught for the wrong reasons" thing someone mentioned before in 334

[The Bulge]

well he does not consider it lucky - i think he is quite upset he hasn't gotten to be scum yet lol

talk to me about this?

What would you like to know?

i guess just elaborate on how you came to know that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

any push at any stage that scum makes is fake, no?

this is true but there's little reason for scum to hard-shit-push early d1 without a motive

[The Bulge]

bussing aside obviously

[The Bulge]

do you think it's a shitpush?

[Kasumeat]

slight LHF vibes

What does this mean?

Gamma, what's your read on me and why?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think we'll know if Kasu gets drunk and starts rageposting

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I skimmed Kasu's games completed on this site and they almost inevitably involve very angry posting so I can't imagine he enjoys playing town very much

[The Bulge]

what is pooky's opinion of the kasu push

[Kasumeat]

You respect shea so you want him to trust you this game? I'm confused why.

this is a really good question that I want an answer to. Generally the reason I try to get players to trust me is I'm trying to lie to them.

This last page and a half of gamma reads really earnest to me.

hello everyone please put these two posts next to each other and try to explain how they're possibly coming from town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't like it. I can see why Shea didn't like Kasu's reaction but it's fairly standard for his meta as town to get engaged in stupid shit-fights.

[The Bulge]

kasumeat the archaeologist

[The Bulge]

I don't like it. I can see why Shea didn't like Kasu's reaction but it's fairly standard for his meta as town to get engaged in stupid shit-fights.

ok, what do you think of kasu's shitpush on shea?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think he actually believes he's pushing shea for valid reasons