Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Secret Tunnel]

Bell I was saying earlier was just

Your statements of

I’m suspicious for acting the way I did around Alisae wagon
I’m experienced enough to know how scum act around town wagons

Or whatever paraphrased

Are contradictory and you cannot logically maintain both statements at the same time

-innocentvillager

[Secret Tunnel]

oh, thought it was something you wrote overnight. to be clear, you only just started panicking and thinking that you might be killed since day start? (even though mariaboy has been removed from the game, at least as far as voting/posting is concerned?)

Specifically because Maria was removed I think they’re suiciding with the trigger ready potentially?

-innocentvillager

[Secret Tunnel]

But we were worried about this overnight took

-innocentvillager

[Bell]

Would you or NS fake a PR as scum or have you faked a PR as scum before just to get out of efforting?

[Secret Tunnel]

I’ve never done that, idk why you’re asking us this though

-innocentvillager

[zMuffinMan]

you guys don't think mariaboy were just outright lying or scum?

i sincerely doubt that's the 'trigger'

likely they're either scum whose role allowed them to leave the game for a day or they're town who got removed involuntarily

but i can't think of a good reason to justify the latter unless it can be repeated

though i guess we'll find out soon if it was or wasn't the 'trigger'

[Secret Tunnel]

@muffin I was skimming around DL when it happened. My basic ideas of what would shake out-

1) They are town and going to blow up more town
2) They are town and scum RB them to try and force us in a 1v1 with them
3) They are scum and trying to 1v1 us themselves

I obv think 2 is a stretch. 1 is maybe because soft spot for AtE. 3 is just weird too though.

pedit-
If yall would stop posting so I can explain my POV

[Bell]

I don't know.

[zMuffinMan]

is there a reason remilia is on a separate tier to your other strong town reads?

[Secret Tunnel]

NS’s TR is mostly meta based there so I didn’t really try to read Rem

-innocentvillager

[Secret Tunnel]

(meta and figuring the odds of bork snowing me+morph were v low)

[Secret Tunnel]

you guys don't think mariaboy were just outright lying or scum?

i sincerely doubt that's the 'trigger'

likely they're either scum whose role allowed them to leave the game for a day or they're town who got removed involuntarily

but i can't think of a good reason to justify the latter unless it can be repeated

though i guess we'll find out soon if it was or wasn't the 'trigger'

I’m not great with closed mech so I defer to NS on that and he seemed pretty confident, when Maria left I guess I was like ehh might as well, thought it was consistent with the he suicide bombing us narrative

-innocentvillager

[zMuffinMan]

so what's noddy's guess for the scum team?

[zMuffinMan]

hes being pretty quiet for someone who thinks he's gonna die soon lol

[Secret Tunnel]

Do you want my tinfoil team because thats about where im at rn

pedit-

I have other stuff to do and I quite frankly know my reads dont hold much weight this game and given how this game is going thus far I am doubting them further

[Bell]

To be clear.

1. NS thought you were going to die, but you didn't/weren't sure.
2. Instead of NS writing up the note, you did. 10 minutes ago. Because you trusted NS that you were probably going to die. Because you don't know who the scum are you didn't think it would be important to share your thoughts?
3. Your reads are an amalgamation of NS's reads and your own. Where you trust NS to have accurate reads or at least don't want to give him a hard time about them/question his logic?

[PlusJOYED]

you guys don't think mariaboy were just outright lying or scum?

i sincerely doubt that's the 'trigger'

likely they're either scum whose role allowed them to leave the game for a day or they're town who got removed involuntarily

but i can't think of a good reason to justify the latter unless it can be repeated

though i guess we'll find out soon if it was or wasn't the 'trigger'

i think if that was the trigger they would of mentioned it, that'd be a pretty important detail to leave out and if they didn't know that's how their role worked that's a textbook bastard mechanic and would be against site rules

[Bell]

Do you want my tinfoil team because thats about where im at rn

pedit-

I have other stuff to do and I quite frankly know my reads dont hold much weight this game and given how this game is going thus far I am doubting them further

Don't give us the tinfoil, just give us your honest thoughts on who's scum.

[Secret Tunnel]

I'm always honest lol

april/bulge/joyed was my tinfoil team

Re: today- it feels very much like aprils about to come in and say it has to be morph and just keep yelling about how morph is scum and we are scum and joyed is town and blahblahblah

To put it more simply I could see april doing that kill as a way to get an easy misclown off and I feel like this is a puppetmaster type game and that makes me most sus of april/morph/muffin but I dont think its morph and I think muffin looks more town than april

[Bell]

In IV/NS world Bee/Maria are holding their trigger on their finger.
Where's that confidence coming from?

[zMuffinMan]

why's april scum?

and what made you guys think mariar was gonna bomb you?

[zMuffinMan]

theoretically if they were gonna use the bomb and that was the trigger, they're not exactly in a rush to use it, probably? literally dont have to post all day so it's not like they need to do it immediately lol

[Bell]

If they're scum there are less variables involved in guessing that Maid cafe's actions are going as intended. Though I don't understand clearly why they don't think they could be lying. Though I do know that they were town reading them.

[Secret Tunnel]

The "We already discussed who to target" and then they start talking about various other reads and then slip us in at the last second as lock scum. Beeboy modded that scum game of mine we talked about earlier and I feel like a quick look through my ISO should look pretty different especially given how I spelled out my gameplan in the scum PT but maybe they werent paying attention

re:April its a gamestate read that I just explained. I think if theres someone rattling and shaking everyones heads up this game its them

pedit-
maria literally said she was doing it at daystart

[Secret Tunnel]

To be clear.

1. NS thought you were going to die, but you didn't/weren't sure.
2. Instead of NS writing up the note, you did. 10 minutes ago. Because you trusted NS that you were probably going to die. Because you don't know who the scum are you didn't think it would be important to share your thoughts?
3. Your reads are an amalgamation of NS's reads and your own. Where you trust NS to have accurate reads or at least don't want to give him a hard time about them/question his logic?

Almost exactly correct.

I think it’s been obvious that I’ve been mostly taking a backseat this game to let NS drive especially since he knows the plist better.

-innocentvillager