Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[Starbuck]

I think I mixed that up. I replaced in before him. My point is that he attempts the solve there. He's not doing that here.

[Starbuck]

If you're a dick, just own it (like chk)

Rude.

I wasn't trying to be. It seemed like a badge you were proud of.

[chkflip]

I was being facetious, you're fine.

[chkflip]

I was being facetious, you're fine.

[Starbuck]

I was hoping 2308 would give some insight. Alas, no.


On the other hand and bright side, I'm glad to see the reads list coming from NPOM. This is what I've been waiting for, dude.

[Iecerint]

NPOM, so far, is this based on a re-read, ad hoc isos, your memory of the game to date, or something else?

[Iecerint]

Walter, what do you make of people suspecting you?

I have noticed that you almost totally ignore it.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I iso'd each player and also my preconceived recollections of the player.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If you're going to poke holes in my reads you should just do it and not beat around the bush.

[NoPowerOverMe]

@DGB: We're probably two of the older players in the game. Sorry you're scum.

[Iecerint]

If you're going to poke holes in my reads you should just do it and not beat around the bush.

I actually like your reads a lot; they seem to come from a town mindset. I don't really

agree

with all of the reads, which is separate from that (sometimes unavoidably, as town!NPOM has the whole "secret flavor" piece that may be relevant to alignment ala BEF, but it doesn't seem to be 100% related to that ala Rudeboy). Your post also let me notice how many people TD has voted. I still think he's town, but it was a little startling to see.

Then, I had a paranoid reaction to how much I had liked them, because I thought it was weird that I would suddenly have a positive reaction to something you had done. So, I decided to ask you more about it.

[Looker]

Looker is the better wagon than lavender.

VOTE: Looker

If you're that set on me being scum, wouldn't my ISO come first...? Also, in your Part 1, what read list of mine did Galron criticize?

If you're a dick, just own it (like chk)

Rude.

Like I said - irrelevant personality preferences from an arrogant victim who insulted me first.

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• It's difficult to determine alignments when arguments are personality-based. Other than me lynching scum, most of this has been static. These are typically enjoyable.
  
• Just because I disagree with Starbuck doesn't mean I'm being a dick.
  • I eliminated scum.
  • I responded very maturely to her insults.
  • I haven't taken her emotional bait.
  • I can still clearly see and highlight that she's voting me for no reason (beyond the superficial guise of me being "dickish" [as if penises are bad or something])
  • Calling me awful is sad AtE
• Starbuck linked a game where I was scum and said I'm acting differently this game. l o l

2 more

[davesaz]

2 more

What's this mean?

[Starbuck]

LoL, I'm not even voting you for being dickish. I have reasons for my vote that you clearly ignored.

Carry on, though.

[chkflip]

Since the last one said 3 more, I imagine he has more to say.

I'm waiting.

[chkflip]

I love that "I voted for scum" is still a thing people use, though.

[Gamma Emerald]

Five days. I looked into it five days into the phase when it became obvious y'all are super content with terrible lhf wagons. What's the farce is when people said there was info there and then proceeded to not fucking use it.

You do understand what filibuster actually means, right? Because IKS was filibustering. I'm posting actual reads, engaging as many people as I can, and making sure we don't throw the phase on bad play by shredding, here it comes again, lhf.

This is Lavender's town game. Sorry you're unfamiliar and I'm well aware that the slot is difficult to deal with and not exactly helpful. They will not be making it to endgame but another zero-info flip doesn't help us rn.

This is Walter's town game. Sorry you're unfamiliar and, while not as much teeth pulling is required, it's pretty sunshine clear that he also steadily falls under the lhf category. Sorry not sorry.

I have reason to believe someone here said a thing about NPOM and am not willing to shred there just yet either.

tbf if today hadn't started out as it did I might have looked at it
Also, you say "IKS was filibustering" but back when that was actively happening you were standing with him. Don't try to revise your actions to put yourself on the right side of history.
I don't care what Lavender's towngame is as I'm not acquainted enough with it to know it. What I do know is she's only doing the bare minimum to not have everyone want her head, then dipping without any attempts to continue the thought processes she has expressed beforehand. That's commonly recognized as Creature's scumgame, but it's also just a scumgame generally. Walter I haven't pushed myself so I can't speak on it. The only person who "said a thing" on NPOM in the way you're indicating is rudeboy, and he's walked that back by now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lavender is engaged.

No. I generally find your content towny, but this just isn’t true.

It was more a comment of recent activity. I was surprised enough to make a note of it.

It's paper-thin though. I will bet you dollars-to-donuts Lavender won't continue any of the engagement shown there, and just post whatever is called of her the next time she is summoned into the thread.

[Gamma Emerald]

why wouldnt scum just choose to push NPOM instead? why even get rid of IKS?

NPOM was a stronger PR than IKS?

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum dbg for sure if they think looker is town and lav is scum

"You're evil if you disagree" is the core of mafia.

is it bad I want to keep him around just to watch you insult him?

Awful
Looker, what did you make of my reply, then?

That you don't know? I don't think Starbuck or chkflip will find that answer acceptable.

Spoiler:

• Racially, this should be reversed.
  
• If anything, this should be me watching "Mad chkflip" self-destruct.
  • I also feel his phony distress is manufactured.

Ah you're right NPOM, I read that incorrectly, well who's the scum on your wagon?

And uh, before chkflip explodes once more, just gonna VOTE: Looker ( ⚆ _ ⚆ )

Are they screaming at you in the scum PT? "I'm going to vote Looker sO ChKfLiP IsN't aNgRy" lmao Don't make it too easy

Galron
*Was one of the first to vote IKS. "Out of the gate scummy"
*Criticized Lookers read list early day 1.
*Said he wasn't on NPOM due to rude. Then voted NPOM.
TR: a2, Ice, piss, npom, chk
Votes: IKS, Walter, NPOM, Walter
My Read: Solid Town. Not making rash judgements.

I don't make D1 read lists - are you sure he criticized me and not someone else? Also, I'm excited for Part 2.

Spoiler:

I actually think looker is town. just a really bored town. I wish he'd take the game more cereal.

I don't understand how you can be "bored town" when you haven't even been here other than to sling insults.

Just the formatting alone in the post SB mentioned doesn't give me the "bored" vibe.

Formatting is fun.

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• chkflip doesn't like my responses, so he calls them handwaving. (If I spoke Spanish and he spoke English, would the fact that I'm not speaking English mean I'm not speaking?) Either way, I'm not handwaving.
  
• More fake outrage and profanity from chkflip. He feigns he knows how every townie plays; clearly he does not. Interestingly votes me because he feels others haven't answered my questions.
  
• It would also be easier to take chkflip seriously if he were actually on IKS's wagon. As it stands, I feel he's bringing up things now he didn't before (as in all of D1), as a distraction. I'm still capable of enjoying the game, though.
  
• I have no idea what Gamma's talking about. Him calling me a jackass is weird - I don't get it. Maybe it's a 'fight fire with fire' type deal, but I never insulted anyone to being with, so I really don't get his angle. Weak.
  
• More chkflip "irritation"
  • "Anger gets shit done" Not really believable
• "Tactless" jab from Gamma

3 more

I feel like the quips at the bottom of your posts only serve to be inflammatory
They're not adding anything, they're purely just reactive commentary, and it's not nice stuff

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so why wouldnt we elim NPOM?

[Gamma Emerald]

Read List part 2



Lavender
*Uses lots of emojis
*Says contributing is "hard".
TR: Galron, TD, Gamma, Walter SR: Looker
Vote: NPOM, Looker
My Read: Not the best grammar, but they seem to be cognitavally transparent. Mild Town.

Bambi Jay
*Asks A50 to tell him his role.
*Doesn't like lurkers
*Saves energy for day 2.
*Worried about naked voting.
*Posts infrequently.
TR: Starbuck
Vote: Leia, IKS, Galron, IKS, NPOM
My Read: Probably town by POE.

TiphaneDeath
*Against quick wagons
*Says a lot without actually taking firm positions.
*Dave vs. Chk is not svs
SR: NPOM, Leia, Dave, TR: Pooky, Gamma, Pooky
Vote: Titus, Bambi, NPOM, Bambi, NPOM, Pooky, Leia, NPOM, IKS, Chk, NPOM, chk
My read: Seems to be fence sitting except with regards to me. Would like more fluffless content. Null.

WaltertheDunce
*Accuses TD of not contributing but not a great contributer himself.
*Has role known by others(role flavor)
*Doesn't like ice's read list.
*Think most wagons have been "shit."
TR: Gamma, TD SR: Galron, Bambi
Vote: DGB, IKS, Galron, Bambi, IKS, chk, NPOM, IKS
My read: Pretty towny overall

BrightEyedFish
*Agrees with rude on NPOM flavor.
*Confirmed band invite.
TR: Rude, A50, NPOM, Gamma, Looker, pisskop, Starbuck SR: dave, Walter
Vote: TD, Starbuck, TD, IKS, Walter
My read: not a lot of posts but those posts he does make are heavy content. Like his reads. Strong town.

can you post all of these in spoiler= tags alongside a full readlist when you're done?

[Gamma Emerald]

so why wouldnt we elim NPOM?

what are even trying to argue here?

[chkflip]

You're exhausting in a "wtf are you even on about" kind of way. I enjoy your new found confidence, though.

tbf if today hadn't started out as it did I might have looked at it

Don't attempt to use something against me and then backtrack on it when I bring up a valid point. You're wasting both of our time.

Also, you say "IKS was filibustering" but back when that was actively happening you were standing with him. Don't try to revise your actions to put yourself on the right side of history.

That's... not what that means, dude.

You said I'm filibustering.

I said I'm not.

I don't care what Lavender's towngame is

You don't get to criticize someone's town game and, upon being corrected, say you don't give a fuck.

Walter I haven't pushed myself so I can't speak on it. The only person who "said a thing" on NPOM in the way you're indicating is rudeboy, and he's walked that back by now.

He hasn't, actually.

And once again stop bringing shit up if you're going to backtrack when called on it.

Stop wasting my time.

[TiphaineDeath]

Yeaaaah, Pooky/CHK makes a lot more sense than NPOM rn.