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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:06 am

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Alonzo (0) :

Tayl0r Swift (6) : Battle Mage ; TheGoldenParadox ; Alonzo ; Datisi ; bob3141 ; teacher
Execution !


TheGoldenParadox (0) :

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Noraa (0) :

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Not Voting (5) : Tayl0r Swift ; Iconeum ; iamausername ; Noraa ; Menalque

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to yeet someone, the day will end in (expired on 2020-10-12 12:27:01)

Random fact : this day was finished 33 times faster than day 1

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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 2148, Datisi wrote:huh.
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:08 am

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didn't expect it to be *this* fast :lol:
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:09 am

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A guilty is a guilty. Have to say the Bunno kill makes sense with Taylor!scum too.
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:12 am

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In post 2128, Battle Mage wrote:this, pre-claim, doesn't make me feel any worse about a teacher-taylor pairing btw
How bout now :lol:
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:13 am

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As you drag up Tayl0r Swift to the stand, she says "are you kidding me people"

Tayl0r Swift has been executed, she was...


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A Vanilla Townie !


it is now night 2, if you have night actions, please submit them, night 2 will end in (expired on 2020-10-06 16:13:49)
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:14 am

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Night 2 has ended

Battle Mage was found dead, he was...


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Town Combined Mailman Vanilla CopWelcome ! You are a
Town Combined Mailman Vanilla Cop


You may each night, target a player, you will both
- make the moderator send them a private message of your choice, this message will be specified as coming from another player
-check if the player you target is a Vanilla role or not

Your Goal is to eliminate every threat to the town, you may find the game thread here


It is now day 3
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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:15 am

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votecount 3.0


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Not Voting (9) : Alonzo ; TheGoldenParadox ; Iconeum ; iamausername ; teacher ; bob3141 ; Noraa ; Datisi ; Menalque

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to yeet someone, the day will end in (expired on 2020-10-14 16:15:21)

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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:16 am

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This post was written Friday night. I didn't check the thread until after shelly was hammered and didn't read up until my full reread on the game that night.

Rereading the entire thread here are my thoughts:

Datisi putting pressure on me over me saying he needed to justify his vote if it wasn't a rvs vote is strange. It's very strange bc in general votes need to be justified and putting pressure on a newb and making them feel like they weren't supposed to ask is just not rubbing the right way. Questioning my use of the terms antitown and scummy was definitely strange as well. Datisi's whole "let Bm look like the one tunneling while adding some pressure on Noraa "was a really really strange approach that doesn't strike me as towny ngl.


Bm being condescending and provocative doesn't seem to be AI. I meta dived or technically I literally read like the tiniest bit of his first game on site back in 2007 and people called him condescending and provocative. I think this may just be personality/playstyle so as much as I'm still a bit salty, I will try to be open minded about this when rereading.

Bob came in and joined in putting pressure on me. So alright I admit after the first few days of day one, I in a way, kinda stopped trying. I felt greatly discouraged and honestly just wanted to replace out. However rereading I personally do not think I was being antitown or scummy at the time as I had not given up on the game that early. So anyone that joined in putting pressure on me is definitely in my slight scum lean list.

Bm's whole thing about not liking to lie and not caring about anyone's opinion except his own is a strange post to make day 1. It's just very .... strange and I dont understand why scum or town would say something like this tbh.

So Bob continues to be active but not inputting much useful info. It seems he is siding with bm in the bmvnoraa thing but is mostly dealing in fluff anyways. he is not trying to get too involved and is trying to extend rvs in a way.

Mena popping in and saying BmvNoraa, something that happened in the first 5 pages, is TvS is VERY scummy. I absolutely hate that. It almost feels like scum TMIing and trying to set up two mislims bc they know both bm and I are town. If bm is Mena's scum partner, he wouldn't say that. this is why Mena and BM aren't scum together imo. Mena's flipflopping between me and bm is concerning as well.

Post #166 was when I started giving up. Everything before post 166 was when I believe I was giving this game my normal which is a ton a ton of attention and thought. After this I was considering just lurking or replacing out because I was pretty upset about how things were playing out and felt low-key bullied over nothing cuz as I said, I gave it my normal and the responses I got weren't nice especially from bm. Btw dont tell me wanting to lurk or replace out is scummy bc I seriously was upset about it. I have zero games, finished or ongoing where I actively lurk. My post counts are generally the highest and I'm spammy as hell normally. This game truly upset me and there's nothing more to that.

Taylor comes in and immediately takes my side which I can definitely see as trying to pocket. Taylor has been in games with me and I think anyone thats been in a game with me before can 100% tell that I was actually quite upset. And since I'm a pretty emotionally driven person, when I'm upset is the perfect time for scum to come pocket.

Back to Mena. Mena's Fos on BM just looks OMGUSy to me. The change to me isn't well justified either. I think the flip floppiness is actually a town tell as the entire thing was quite confusing if I do say so myself. towns reaction should be confusion imo. I was in it myself so I got a different view on things but I think a normal townies reaction should be to be confused. Mena is in my town book for townie confusion.

Post 199 feels town. Taylor was JKer in one of the games I finished with her. I'm getting the same vibes from there here so Taylor is in my early town book as well for meta reasons. Another thing is that Taylor seems quite a bit emotionally driven this game and that is 100% a town tell for her.

Piis entrance strikes me as town here. The post covers a little bit of everything, had some good reasons, didn't tunnel or focus on anything specifically yet, and had a nice summary. Pii in my early town book as well for this very towny sounding first post.

TGP's entrance is a terrible look. It reeks of scumminess. TGP thinks tunneling is scummy whereas I actually am fairly certain that tunneling is actually something town unintentionally does. TGP also calls me confident when all of my reads are very uncertain and very not confident. I feel like this is scum just twisting everything up to make some scumtells out of nothing.

Shelly I honestly felt was pretty scummy this round but I will not state anything on her since we already got a flip and she was town.

Alonzo is one of the people that caught my attention even in my ~salty~ phase and still is in my town book. The reasoning is that most his perspectives I think are much more likely to come from town than scum. The mena SR coming in wasn't scummy bc scums easiest thing to do is choose one out of {Bm, Noraa} and yeet them to hell. Alonzo's unvote soon after makes me really like thinking of that slot as town bc I also started off SRing mena but then TRing.

Teacher's entrance is a load of fluff which is an interesting take considering we moved out of rvs pretty fast and he was a bit late entering. The more you see of teacher, the more towny he seems. He moves into good questions really fast and almost all of his questions prompt or try to prompt good discussion that move the game forward. Town book. Strong TR.

Ico's entrance was ... interesting and gave me a null read on them but then their switch from mena to me and then off of me was very scummy. I felt like Ico came in and tried to pocket me(defends me all over the place despite saying they didn't want to take a defensive stance on me) but then realized I was great limbait and decided to start setting me up to be the day 1 lim. Ico pushes that NoraavBM is TvT but then flips and calls me scum. Idk I dont like the flip flopping.

Datisi focuses on me too much. His ISO reflects it and I find it scummy. It looks like very low-key tunneling that hidden really well.

iamausername is a null read. Idk not much to say there. Their reads r interesting takes and I generally agree with them but I'm not feeling immense towniness here so I think they belong in null.

Bob lurks a lil. cherry picks interesting things to reply to.

Datisi tunnels quite a bit imo. I think he'll go to my town lean for that.

TGP's switch from Noraa to BM is terrible. I hatehatehatehate. Switch to shelly over one post is scummy as well. Sheeps some newbtown reads on me. Strong SR now. Backtracks and says the TR on me is weak and I basically shouldn't question it otherwise it'll disappear. The post was a bit of a "threat" TGP is also very fence sitty as shown in post 650.

Bob clings to BMvNoraa. Reasserts my slight scum lean. He never tries to solve anything else.

see posts like 630 are why I dislike BM.

I admit I got a bit tired rereading so I ended up skimming a lot of the in between pages. 84 pages is a lot and it took me ~3 hours to read it all even when more than half was skimmed.

Scum:

Ico, Bob, Datisi, BM, TGP (in no particular order)

Null:

Iamausername

Town:
Mena, Taylor, Pii/Bunno, Alonzo, Teacher (in no particular order)


Most scum: TGP(even tho their posts got better later)

Most town: Alonzo/Teacher

Added on Sunday:
Holy fuck that flash wagon on Taylor... y'all literally hammered before I took one look at the thread. I logged onto ms and saw mod's pm that day 2 had started, checked the thread and it was locked. I thought mod hadn't opened thread yet until I saw the thread was night phase and Taylor was limmed in a literal 3 pages or something. Bm is confscum so that's our lim today but even tho its decided, we have to talk things thru bc we already mislimmed twice and wasted away day 2's time. We can't let scum!BM self hammer and waste our discussion time.
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:18 am

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And now that the night kill was bm, I'll have to reassess some things
*sigh*
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:19 am

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But also I dont understand why scum would ever nk BM considering town would've pushed really hard for a lim on him today...
yeah im a bit weirded out about this and cant seem to think of an explanation that makes sense here.
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:21 am

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Idk someone help?
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:29 am

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AHA I posted before i even got a pm from mod lel.

It went to the top of my "view ur posts"

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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:48 am

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VOTE: teacher

here's where I'm at right now.
a NK on BM makes absolutely no sense. he was a guaranteed mislim d3. so the only a NK on him would have been reasonable is if BM's reads were so accurate that him espousing them and providing greater clarity on them d3 was not worth the mislim. bm clearly espoused his read on teacher, but had enough fluff and jumps onto noraa and such that teacher might have avoided suspicion by killing bm as opposed to letting him speak today. that hammer SCREAMED opportunistic scum looking to end the day by stifling discussion.

scum is {teacher, noraa, ??} i'm confident in teacher!scum, and you should be too.
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:50 am

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So you’re pushing me as NKing BM, while saying scum never nk BM????
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:58 am

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sorry, let me clarify that: a NK on BM makes no sense unless scum contains teacher (where it makes some sense) or contains both teacher and noraa (where it makes a lot of sense).
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:02 am

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So why did Taylor flash up scum to BM?
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:06 am

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bm was gambiting. look at
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:12 am

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In post 2167, TheGoldenParadox wrote:bm has a tiny penis. look at
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:12 am

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I think scum has some sort of wonky manipulative role or something
otherwise BMvTaylor makes zero sense
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:14 am

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And i asked him if he wasnt simply gambiting :-( There goes my top town read.
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:14 am

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So... Shelley's gone, Taylor's gone, BMs gone, along with the fear of any powerwolfing from bunno.

This is a good foundation for town all things considered
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:14 am

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Also I will literally die before believing scum would kill BM. I literally wasn't present for any of day 2 but after rereading knowing that Taylor was town, I was 100% down for a BM lim today. I think everyone else thought the same as well.

I am so confident in this bc I was thinking I was gonna rock BM's shit day 3 and get a lim on scum!BM. The town flip was so unexpected I didnt even know if I read the mod post right. Thats the level of certainty and thats why I think scum are either extremely stupid or a vig killed bm
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:16 am

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Oh, do tell...
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:22 am

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I don't think it was ever as clear as scum! TS = town BM, but that vig theory makes a bit of sense
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