Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[duppin]

apologise had a busy day yesterday so didnt have time for ms

anyway im actually starting to feel better about Gamma, i also quite like the direction he is pushing.
i cant comment too much on this due to site rules, but i really dislike noraas weird defense of lurking and i think it is more
i am also not a fan of her defense of pooky, it feels rather awkward to me. She is saying the votes on pooky are bad because it's bad to vote on pooky for playing weird? I'm honestly not sure i really understand her defense, to me it comes across as buddying which makes me lean slightly more town on pooky at the moment.

VOTE: Noraa

[MURDERCAT]

I think we should be looking closely at that vote ^

[duppin]

Shea I'd like to talk about the townreads on you, but first of all what do you make of them?

curious as to why you take this angle rather than asking those who TR him for reasons? the decision seems very intentional.

Gamma's tr was the most sketchy one for me and i did ask him about the vote, but when it started feeling like shea was pretty much being universally townread i honestly just dont think im going to gain much by asking everyone about it as i know there are town pushing the read out as well then, in which case i dont think the tr on shea is the best way to solve their slots.
I personally did not have the tr on shea at all at this point so me asking him was also to get a better read on him. i think it is a very slight town tell but probably not that alignment indicative for him to consider it possible buddying, but the fact that he has actually pushed this (eg pushing you for your tr) is something i think is very townie actually

[MURDERCAT]

ghosted nice

I love this game sometimes :3

lots of fun

try to talk with someone and they just spew nonsense at you

Honestly Pooky I don't see your reaction coming from town at what, E-3? Everyone who voted you (including Shea) has had a consistent complaint about your lack of game solving. Why don't you give us something to work with? Why is the burden on us to prove you are scum at the present moment when we are not even close to a hammer?

[duppin]

VOTE: Pooky

Haven't really liked anything from you all game. My top TRs don't like you and a lot of my SRs do.

i dont believe you ever commented on this, but what did you make of pooky's initial meta read on you?

[MURDERCAT]

apologise had a busy day yesterday so didnt have time for ms

anyway im actually starting to feel better about Gamma, i also quite like the direction he is pushing.
i cant comment too much on this due to site rules, but i really dislike noraas weird defense of lurking and i think it is more
i am also not a fan of her defense of pooky, it feels rather awkward to me. She is saying the votes on pooky are bad because it's bad to vote on pooky for playing weird? I'm honestly not sure i really understand her defense, to me it comes across as buddying which makes me lean slightly more town on pooky at the moment.

VOTE: Noraa

Duppin, were you caught up as of this post? It seems like there are about 300 posts you didn't respond to before it, but then you went back to quoting some older posts so just curious

[duppin]

apologise had a busy day yesterday so didnt have time for ms

anyway im actually starting to feel better about Gamma, i also quite like the direction he is pushing.
i cant comment too much on this due to site rules, but i really dislike noraas weird defense of lurking and i think it is more
i am also not a fan of her defense of pooky, it feels rather awkward to me. She is saying the votes on pooky are bad because it's bad to vote on pooky for playing weird? I'm honestly not sure i really understand her defense, to me it comes across as buddying which makes me lean slightly more town on pooky at the moment.

VOTE: Noraa

Duppin, were you caught up as of this post? It seems like there are about 300 posts you didn't respond to before it, but then you went back to quoting some older posts so just curious

oh I was caught up. me going to back to quoting older posts has nothing to do with not being caught up

[MURDERCAT]

I figured as much, just making sure

[Thestatusquo]

I'm also not liking pookys reaction on the last few pages.

Speaking of which I really don't like the distinction that pooky anf then later on panzer are making between dislike and SR. I feel like I use those two phrases pretty interchangeable at times and I dont get why this distinction is being made except in a disingenuous sort of way.

[Gamma Emerald]

I tend to use dislike outside of calling someone scummy myself, and a good example would actually be those pings I felt from Noraa before the point I voted her. While I disliked certain things she posted, they didn't really feel scummy beyond anything I could reasonably explain by her being new

[Thestatusquo]

I just went back to reread that and you know what forget that whole line of discussion. Panzer is weighing in on how he himself was using the word which is not what my coffee starved brain thought was going on.

[MURDERCAT]

Shea how do feel about Panzer/Pooky being 2/3 scum?

[MURDERCAT]

Also, I know I still need to read up on Noraa (plan on doing that tonight), but based on wagon dynamics alone it feels like Noraa is the town counterwagon to Pooky scum (which is why I was suspicious of Duppin vote)

[MURDERCAT]

Still feel like the Panzer vote that is on me from page 1 and hasn't changed should be pinging more people

[Noraa]

I think we should be looking closely at that vote ^

its very out of the blue. I expressed concerns with duppins play being not his normal here and this random vote is just ... not rubbing me the right way. I think we might actually have a scum!duppin here.

Also, I know I still need to read up on Noraa (plan on doing that tonight), but based on wagon dynamics alone it feels like Noraa is the town counterwagon to Pooky scum (which is why I was suspicious of Duppin vote)

after the read up, I'm interested in hearing ur updated read. I am not the counterwagon but I can easily become one if people keep sheeping votes on me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, I know I still need to read up on Noraa (plan on doing that tonight), but based on wagon dynamics alone it feels like Noraa is the town counterwagon to Pooky scum (which is why I was suspicious of Duppin vote)

Except Noraa was first to be voted, and then the Pooky wagon happened. Also didn't you SR Noraa before you started the meta reads? Why are you defending her now?

[Gamma Emerald]

As for duppins vote I think I understand what's going on there and if I'm right it makes him more likely to be town

[MURDERCAT]

Except Noraa was first to be voted, and then the Pooky wagon happened.

I am aware of this, but the way Duppin voted makes me think that if scum team is Pooky/Panzer/Duppin (which is something I've considered even prior to the vote basically because I realized that I have no real memory of anything Duppin has done) it is the beginning of a counter wagon. I'm calling it out now so that if I'm right Pooky and Panzer have a hard time moving votes there.

And yes, I was pushing Noraa and I thought her post was bad so I'm not going to tunnel on this line, but I just think it is a reasonable possibility that should be explicitly discussed.

It sounds like you don't want to talk about Duppin's vote more and that is fine.

[Noraa]

Also, I know I still need to read up on Noraa (plan on doing that tonight), but based on wagon dynamics alone it feels like Noraa is the town counterwagon to Pooky scum (which is why I was suspicious of Duppin vote)

Except Noraa was first to be voted, and then the Pooky wagon happened. Also didn't you SR Noraa before you started the meta reads? Why are you defending her now?

Lel u had a TR on me that flipped to a SR really fast. I dont think u can attack Murder for the same thing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Except my reasoning for it is present.

@MCat and if you're wrong and I'm right, you're hurting town ability to catch scum. Why does the way duppin voted bother you?

[Noraa]

....eh

[MURDERCAT]

@MCat and if you're wrong and I'm right, you're hurting town ability to catch scum. Why does the way duppin voted bother you?

I guess that is always true, I have to trust my reads though or what else do I have?

It just pinged me because I felt like it came out of nowhere with no comments on the last 300 posts and I don't remember duppin saying anything about Noraa before

[Noraa]

@MCat and if you're wrong and I'm right, you're hurting town ability to catch scum. Why does the way duppin voted bother you?

I guess that is always true, I have to trust my reads though or what else do I have?

It just pinged me because I felt like it came out of nowhere with no comments on the last 300 posts and I don't remember duppin saying anything about Noraa before

duppin said he had a hard time reading me

[Thestatusquo]

Shea how do feel about Panzer/Pooky being 2/3 scum?

I don't tend to think about scum hunting like this on day one. I also don't think I see any particular reason that panzer is scum rather than just being obnoxious.

[Gamma Emerald]

@MCat and if you're wrong and I'm right, you're hurting town ability to catch scum. Why does the way duppin voted bother you?

I guess that is always true, I have to trust my reads though or what else do I have?

It just pinged me because I felt like it came out of nowhere with no comments on the last 300 posts and I don't remember duppin saying anything about Noraa before

I think I know why duppin only now chose to say something about Noraa. If I'm right that makes him more likely town, but I want him to say why first.
Tbh I'd also be down to compromise on someone else as long as it isn't Pooky. Just know duppin is currently lean town vs. null like he was in the read list.