Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[Thestatusquo]

My working theory right now is that N_M knows who blitzo is an alt of, and that is who they are referring to as Rossi. My first guess was Carne Rosso but that doesn't make a lot of sense although rosso was on the site pretty recently.

[Noraa]

I consider strange things sheeping. I've heard my definition is weird before but it is what it is and I'm not gonna try too hard to change my definition.

You probably should because your current definition makes it hard to argue what is or isn't sheeping. Like, I think the reason you kept calling what I was doing sheeping despite me countering it was you had a definition I wasn't aware of, so I didn't have the ability to effective talk against what you were saying.

I mean I'm trying to change a lot of things about my play. Thats not one of the priorities rn

[Noraa]

Blitz is an alt?

[Thestatusquo]

I am pretty sure, yes.

They joined in 2014 and didn't post anywhere until literally this game.

[Noraa]

Oh

[Blitzo]

I am pretty sure, yes.

They joined in 2014 and didn't post anywhere until literally this game.

Yes, I am an alt.

My working theory right now is that N_M knows who blitzo is an alt of, and that is who they are referring to as Rossi. My first guess was Carne Rosso but that doesn't make a lot of sense although rosso was on the site pretty recently.

That is incorrect.

[Blitzo]

Incorrect as in I am not that person.
Anyways.

[Blitzo]

Why would NM be townreading me if I'm the person that he tried (and failed miserably) to vote?

[Thestatusquo]

Do you have any better guesses as to what rossi means? He's said it twice so its not a mistake. It's either you or its just complete nonsense. 50-50 shot really.

[Blitzo]

Do you have any better guesses as to what rossi means? He's said it twice so its not a mistake. It's either you or its just complete nonsense. 50-50 shot really.

lol I love how we're talking about NM like he's too useless to form a coherent thought.
I'm not rossi, so that read is virtually worthless until NM actually graces us with an explanation which I doubt we're ever going to get.

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler: Pooky stuff

Ok so just from a game state perspective I think it is probably better to flip town MC than town Pooky. Obviously it’s better to flip scum Pooky than town MC, but that is why I haven’t hard pushed Pooky, I’m not confident enough right now to do that. So this actually isn’t really an attempt to get anyone to vote there unless you independently value anything in here. I’ve also approached this from the perspective that Pooky is scum, so this is all biased in that direction. That is not an accurate assessment of my read on Pooky, I think he somewhere between probably to maybe scum.

Pooky respond to this if you want but I’m not going to fight with you again, it is fun but exhausting. I accept I’m the lim today. This is more for when I flip than anything else.

The early posts are all just poking around and aren’t really that interesting. I do want to point out that if Pooky ever flips scum I think that leads to town points for Blitzo due to 223. That doesn’t read like distancing to me.

399 sticks out to me still compared to how defensive Pooky gets when I start to pressure him, but I’ll come back to that.

Through 448 I still feel like Pooky has mostly just tried to poke at people. I read my own iso and to me it feels like I am trying to work with people but I just don’t get that sense from Pooky. Even the people he is defending I don’t think he actually is claiming their town or trying to work with them in the same way. Like in 214 Pooky claims that Kasu is probably town and Shea’s progressions are good. Other than basically OOG talk in 267 and 273 there is no interaction with either of them until 333 where he asks Kasu a question. In 456 Shea prompts Pooky to work with him and Pooky, to his credit, obliges.

514 is interesting and has been mentioned already. Compared to what Pooky was saying in 399 it is a weird way to leave the RVS vote. It feels like he was caught for not voting and waited a bit before fixing it. He already had the Blitzo read way back in 224 so why not just vote in 399 instead of making a big deal of it? Just feels overly defensive whereas town I would have just said “ok that’s true I’ll vote now.” Pooky defends his actions in 538 for those interested.

601 <3 I still love you Pooky even after all we’ve been through

619 Pooky does act against my point above here. I do think that UG makes a great point in 653 and I don’t feel as if 659 is a real defense for it.

Pooky seems really defensive in 734. The phrase “so when I flip town…” really irks me because to me it assumes that OutWorld is scum. I think I’m repeating myself now though.

757 also feels kind of aggressive to me? Like why is Pooky getting so defensive saying that OutWorld has no case blah blah blah. It just feels really dismissive and not how I would respond as town to someone who from my perspective might also be town.

810 is me trying to engage with Pooky and him dodging the question with a joke, but whatever that might be NAI.

I think I make a good point in 816 and I don’t think that 818 is a good defense.

I still think that 870 is a blatant misrep of everything that I had been saying, but other people agreed so I guess I just didn’t express myself well.

I feel like 886 is a good example of how fast Pooky shifted on me, which feels unnatural. Like, I am scum leaning Pooky and trying to talk to him, he apparently hadn’t been scum reading me before this and in 886 it reads like he is convinced I’m scum? I really don’t think it’s fair to say I twisted anything and I never once tried to get anyone to vote him up to this point.

The beginning of 909 is just ridiculous and Gamma calls it out in 910. It feels like every possible attack he can make he is whereas I was genuinely trying to work with him still. Pooky will take issue with this statement because I do say I’m not questioning him and he thinks I’m not interacting with him, but from my POV I wanted him to calm down so I could actually interact productively. And saying I’m evasive in 919 is just a falsehood, I respond to all of his posts.

Posts like 954 I also feel like are attacks based on my nothing, if you know my meta you know that’s not how I play.

The comment on my word choice in 963 is ridiculous.

1221 never went anywhere as Pooky continues to say I look bad, but maybe he didn’t reread.

1365 is just silly.

If 1369 were true I’d have tried to push Noraa with Shea. I feel like this is obvious and Pooky can’t in good faith believe that I would stick up for Noraa the way I have if she was town and I was scum and there was pressure on me.

Ok make of that what you will, I know we are still eliming me today.

[MURDERCAT]

lol I love how we're talking about NM like he's too useless to form a coherent thought.

I agree

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't see a Murder/Noraa solve even if I try to think of it outside of my own pov. Like even from a spectators pov, I feel like Noraa/Murder just doesn't make sense

Now I wanna hear about this

I still wanna hear your outsider's reasoning for why you and MCat can't be scum together

pooky covered it pretty damn well. but if u need me to basically say the exact same thing again, I can.

I had hoped there'd be more to it than that, but okay.

also,

sheeping

:kappa:

[Gamma Emerald]

My working theory right now is that N_M knows who blitzo is an alt of, and that is who they are referring to as Rossi. My first guess was Carne Rosso but that doesn't make a lot of sense although rosso was on the site pretty recently.

I thought NM tried to vote blitzo?

[Noraa]

I don't see a Murder/Noraa solve even if I try to think of it outside of my own pov. Like even from a spectators pov, I feel like Noraa/Murder just doesn't make sense

Now I wanna hear about this

I still wanna hear your outsider's reasoning for why you and MCat can't be scum together

pooky covered it pretty damn well. but if u need me to basically say the exact same thing again, I can.

I had hoped there'd be more to it than that, but okay.

also,

sheeping

:kappa:

I mean pooky did cover everything really really well. Not sure what else ur expecting.

[MURDERCAT]

Please read my post friends, I worked hard on it for you

[Noraa]

Please read my post friends, I worked hard on it for you

Murder it feels very ... fence sitty :/

[Noraa]

And I feel bad saying that cuz I can tell u spent time on it but like its not gonna change my mind about voting u. If ur motivation was to guilt trip me a bit, its working cuz I straight up feel bad. I'd feel bad if ur town doing this or scum for a matter of fact.

[MURDERCAT]

That's fine I just want reactions on record

[Noraa]

I saw that post and just felt like you backtracked on pooky

[Noraa]

I sincerely hope you flip red bc otherwise I will actually feel pretty garbo for SRing and tunneling this hard

[MURDERCAT]

Don't feel bad I should have just played better

[Noraa]

^this just makes me feel worse

[Thestatusquo]

I will read it tomorrow. I'm not capable of focusing rn

[MURDERCAT]

^this just makes me feel worse

I have to be honest I did that a little bit on purpose