Newbie 2033: Borkdörkjello - Game Over

Alonzo · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:33 pm

I think it is.

JDye · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:36 pm

Which way?

I do think the petapan elim is the best option moving forward but I don't like how Ranny has handled this whole situation as it's now unnecessarily confusing and they've made some slightly contradictory statements and been a little bit hypocritical. It makes me think back to what you said earlier Alonzo. Do you still think this could be a SvS situation?

JDye · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:37 pm

I just don't see any reason for them to do so, so I find it hard to believe personally.

Alonzo · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:41 pm

I think ranny read post 50 thoroughly

Alonzo · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:51 pm

However... I was uncomfortable reading those posts too.
I'm chalking alot up to inexperience.

Alonzo · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:53 pm

All you can really do in these games is ask people to listen and take advice, I'm sure there will be things ranny might do differently in future.

JDye · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:56 pm

In post 766, Alonzo wrote:So what's going on here then JD? Who's petapans partner u think?

I think it's you or notScience. AG was lock!town for me after their hardclaim sheep post. Even more so now that they've replaced out. CW is pretty much the same... town that got tilted at people voting them for bullshit reasons. I mentioned this already so maybe you wanted me to choose between you and notScience?

JDye · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:57 pm

In that case, I'm not sure. I haven't really looked at you two super hard yet since getting scum today is more important. Not sure I'd want to give my thoughts here today tbh. Think it's be jumping the gun and a lot of conjecture on top of what is already just a loose theory.

Alonzo · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:05 pm

Definitely be a good day tomorrow, I don't feel so confident that I haven't been finessed by CW, so I'm definitely gonna tip him upside down and shake him at some point, and be good to hear Not AGs thoughts on who the last scum is, definitely game on!!

Adorable · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:50 pm

I've only read day 2 so far and I find this strange Ranny didn't immediately reveal his result about petapan visiting DkKoba and instead he only said he is the other pr with a result as his first post. Normally when I'm a tracker who tracks a player visiting a dead player, the first thing I do is immediately reveal my result. petapan's arguments are really good saying how it looks like Ranny is keeping his options open on nearly every player and this is really common for scum to do. Ranny's #218 that petapan quoted looked like Ranny was throwing shade on Sesq which was sus.

I have not read day 1 yet and did Ranny suspect petapan's slot on day 1? If petapan is scum, I find this weird he would counterclaim Ranny without even knowing if Ranny visited him or his scum buddy. If petapan is scum, then that would mean his scum buddy was not getting suspected on day 1.

Rannygazoo · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:10 pm

Adorable, are you petapan’s scum partner? No lying.

Rannygazoo · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:18 pm

@JDye I don’t know why you think mod bothering is LAMIST. It doesn’t look good for anyone.

I’ll explain and I can’t wait to see how you or petapan misinterpret this: I thought that petapan said he didn’t get a result pm, which contradicts what Bork told me privately. When you asked me what my question would prove, I looked back over is ISO and it looks like I was wrong. He just says he “got no result” without saying the nature of how the “no result” was delivered. Sly dog.

Rannygazoo · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:19 pm

In post 781, JDye wrote:
In post 766, Alonzo wrote:So what's going on here then JD? Who's petapans partner u think?
I think it's you or notScience. AG was lock!town for me after their hardclaim sheep post. Even more so now that they've replaced out. CW is pretty much the same... town that got tilted at people voting them for bullshit reasons. I mentioned this already so maybe you wanted me to choose between you and notScience?

How tf is replacing out alignment indicative?

notscience · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:23 pm

Wasn’t AG GD side banned recently? How do we know it’s not a site flake?

Mmmm

Rannygazoo · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:26 pm

In post 784, Adorable wrote:If petapan is scum, I find this weird he would counterclaim Ranny without even knowing if Ranny visited him or his scum buddy.

That took me by surprise too. That’s when I realized that there was only one visitor among the mafia pair. If you read my ISO, you can literally see me working this out in real time.

People accuse me of contractions, but if its not clear to everyone by now, I don’t have some grand strategy. I post what I think, and I improve my deductions and reads as I go.

Rannygazoo · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:27 pm

Please keep in mind that “I would do it differently” doesn’t mean “you did it wrong”, and I’ll keep that in mind too.

Rannygazoo · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:29 pm

In post 788, notscience wrote:Wasn’t AG GD side banned recently? How do we know it’s not a site flake?

Mmmm

This seems like the wrong puzzle to be solving. She’s gone either way.

Rannygazoo · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:30 pm

Hey @notscience what’s your read on AG and Adorable so far?

notscience · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:33 pm

DK flipped town and I still stand by my earlier stance re the two of them

Haven’t looked too in depth given recent developments tho

notscience · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:34 pm

I’m not really trying to solve why AG is gone

I’m trying to solve why it’s being used to townread them

notscience · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:40 pm

I think it’s weird that Jdye had the same team solve regardless of who’s scum but I think I do as well so I don’t think I can talk

Rannygazoo · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:40 pm

You might be right. I asked because petapan and JDye have independently stated that AG is lock VT. I feel like that’s a judgement that can only come from the benefit of scum’s vantage point. They know who is town and who isn’t, so their task going into night one was to sort VTs and PRs.

I don’t really agree that AG’s willingness to hardclaim VT is towny, and I really don’t agree that replacing out is towny.

notscience · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:42 pm

I used to be able to read replace outs but some are just pure null

The one I’ve tried to read since I’ve been back I was way off

Rannygazoo · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:44 pm

Since we’re talking about it, I think AG left because she was upset about being banned. I mean, you basically said that.

I don’t want to push the rules about discussing ongoing games, but I’m in a... yeah, I’ll stop right there.

Adorable · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:50 pm

In post 789, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 784, Adorable wrote:If petapan is scum, I find this weird he would counterclaim Ranny without even knowing if Ranny visited him or his scum buddy.
That took me by surprise too. That’s when I realized that there was only one visitor among the mafia pair. If you read my ISO, you can literally see me working this out in real time.

People accuse me of contractions, but if its not clear to everyone by now, I don’t have some grand strategy. I post what I think, and I improve my deductions and reads as I go.

I'm reading through day 1 currently on page 9 and you said you liked Dong's analysis and said Dong has a town slot and I'm checking to see on day 1 if you ever changed your read on Dong and put them on a scum read during the end.