Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 2.041
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	None	EL-7	3	2	4	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-7	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Chara	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Chara
Bingle	PenguinPower, SirCakez, Fun and Games, Nosferatu	EL-3	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking	None	EL-7	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	Bingle	EL-6	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	Albert B. Rampage, Noraa, CreativeMod1, JohnnyFarrar, Gamma Emerald	EL-2	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Noraa	I Keep Siteflaking	EL-6	3	3	3	Noraa
JohnnyFarrar	None	EL-7	3	3	3	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	Chara
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-14 12:10:00)
Notes: Currently searching for a replacement for Chara. pagetops: Lilith 29 | penguin 15 | ABR 4 | johnnyf 3 | cm1 2 | gamma 2 | gb 1 | fun & games 2 | nosferatu 2 | bingle 1 | iks 1 | cakez 1 | noraa 1

[Fun and Games]

Fun and games you attack ABR for jumping on a vanity wagon while u urself are on Johnny who has like 2 votes or something. that's a bit hypocritical don't u think?

This is so true it hurts.

btw you never responded to my response on this.

Do you admit you and noraa were wrong here?

[I Keep Siteflaking]

I voted Bingle, because he is currently in 1v1 with FaG.
I have never played with scum Skitter, but I have played games with town Skitter. In both of these games she
a) townreaded and defended me ✓
b) kept asking questions I wanted/ would ask ✓
Both happens in this game. If Skitter can't fake these details into her scum game, she is very likely town.
I have FaG in townleans. At least.

[Gamma Emerald]

PEdit: first off that's not really in a senctence or close to it, and I think that's not damning for Bingle, plus Noraa raised good points against you so I'm not inclined to take your word

a) explain why this isn't damning for bingle
b) what points from noraa are good

the part about sheeping consensus on reads you'd expressed the opposite of consensus in the past, I don't really know how accurate that is for real but with how spineless you've felt in your mech-talk I think there's something there
As for the things against Bingle I don't think the expectation of more townreads is fair, I've felt on and off throughout today so I could see another townie not feeling strongly about a big group of townreads. The only thing I would really buy with that is if he's objecting to one of the essentially cleared slots. I also don't think the things about his penguin push really add up to scumminess, they just seem like poor reasoning

[Fun and Games]

ABR do you actually have reasons for wanting me elim'd ? I'd like to go over them with you, you can start with your best reason.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Not deep into the "I'd rather vote a lurker" line of thinking cake is displaying. Their response to my pushing f&g earlier in the day was also similarly devoid of heart

[Fun and Games]

I voted Bingle, because he is currently in 1v1 with FaG.
I have never played with scum Skitter, but I have played games with town Skitter. In both of these games she
a) townreaded and defended me ✓
b) kept asking questions I wanted/ would ask ✓
Both happens in this game. If Skitter can't fake these details into her scum game, she is very likely town.
I have FaG in townleans. At least.

alt?

~ skitter
(to be clear i haven't been doing most of the posting recently)

[Fun and Games]

(i'm asking if you're an alt, not to reveal the alt)

[Fun and Games]

it's a scummy pattern:

-> he can't explain why the person he's voting is scummy
-> once pressed he appeals to a past game as an example of how penguin did the same 'scummy' things he's doing this game
-> ignores me pointing out the reasoning he's giving literally didn't happen in the past game
-> ignores my townread on him
-> isn't townreading me but is appealing to me to switch to sircakez in badfaith arguments

what aprt of that isn't scummy to you ^

gamma i want you to explain how this isn't scummy to you, and why it just boils down to poor reasoning ^

~ skitter

[Albert B. Rampage]

Put yourself in my chair. You were part of the people today who didn't want to lead bandwagons or mix things up, contributing to the staleness you criticized. For the past 2 weeks, all you did was pile onto people who were being voted already and had high odds of being lynched. And now you come out of the shadows to defend F&G who you never townread, and act more aggressively than your ordinary meta to get your way, and this is without even following who's voting who. Then you get a pass from F&G after all this. I'm trying to weigh the contradictions. Walk me through what you're trying to achieve here.

[Fun and Games]

Cakez borrowed a move from my playbook of trying to present the options for today's lynch.

i also feel the need to point out you were trying to do exactly this below:

DEADLINE IS IN 8 HOURS PEOPLE, WAKE UP AND VOTE

VOTE: Penguin

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

also just wanna make sure i get this out:

town: penguin, iks, sircakez
lesser town: gamma, nos, cmod
null: chara/pine
scum-ish: abr, johnny
scum: bingle

noraa: probalby bad town but they're playstyle is remarkably annoying

i'm not sure gamma actually knows what he thinks or can articulate his scum!us or not-scum!bingle position

~ skitter

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've never ever seen cakez say "hey you can't vote for w, your options are x, y, and z". Even if he has done this before, the timing is off when w is definitely on the table at the time he said it wasn't. It's what I refer to as a decision point. Manipulating a decision point when the winds are blowing in different directions are what scum do to help town lynch themselves.

[Albert B. Rampage]

town: penguin, iks, sircakez

of course that would be your townreads. of course.

[Fun and Games]

given that they've been my townreads since well before this wagon happened, your point?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't buy it.

[I Keep Siteflaking]

(i'm asking if you're an alt, not to reveal the alt)

there is no way an account called "i keep siteflaking" is an alt

[Fun and Games]

Wait why is everyone afraid of us?

I'll do one too!

Town: penguin, gamma, cmod
Slightly lesser town: iks, nos, bingle, sircakez
Idk: ydrasse, pine
Scummy: abr, johnny

~ skitter

from a full week ago, ty ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR do you actually have reasons for wanting me elim'd ? I'd like to go over them with you, you can start with your best reason.

Bingle could have hammered Pine at any time. He could have helped you lynch me at any time. Instead he was on vanity wagons when town SHOULD be on vanity wagons, in the middle of the day. He's town and your push on him reeks F&G.

[Fun and Games]

that doesn't actually answer the question ...

[Albert B. Rampage]

your reads are shite mate

[Albert B. Rampage]

looks like your play is more about consolidating your power base and pocketing town. unfortunately for you, my forte is pushing through difficult lynches on strong scum.

[Fun and Games]

As much fun as it is to indulge you in your fantasy world. do you actually have any reasoning or are you just going to continue hard-trolling?

[Albert B. Rampage]

oh, deflection, is it? I didn't see that coming.

[Fun and Games]

it's like:

ABR: Your are susp because your reads are very COVENIENT - they are all NOT VOTING YOU
FG: No those are the same reads I've had since before the wagon.
ABR: I DONT BUY YOUR BULLSHIT SCUMBAG
FG: Here's a timestamped post.
ABR: Unfortunately for you I don't care about facts! DIEEEE!!