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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:29 am

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In post 1623, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 1619, duppin wrote:Haschel last day you called Noraa scum, your behaviour today seems to suggest you have changed your mind, so could you explain your read progression?
Yesterday it looked obvious that Noraa was partners with Brightskies. This was provably false so I reevaluated, and her play today has been town.
Would you mind elaborating on this?
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:30 am

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In post 1623, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 1619, duppin wrote:Haschel last day you called Noraa scum, your behaviour today seems to suggest you have changed your mind, so could you explain your read progression?
Yesterday it looked obvious that Noraa was partners with Brightskies. This was provably false so I reevaluated, and her play today has been town.
ok but why does this sound like u copy pasted vps words? O_o
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:31 am

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So duppin ur argument itself was wrong. I dont understand why im not allowed to bring attention to it when ur just using an unreasonable argument that applies to every single one of my games but its literally impossible for me to be scum in 8 games at the same time
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:33 am

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In post 1624, Noraa wrote:
In post 1613, duppin wrote:
In post 1609, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 1601, VP Baltar wrote:
Incidentally Duppin trying to shift things onto Noraa using a single game's meta is scummy as fuck. Not only is any cherrypicked meta argument worthless to other players, but using a small sample size is disingenuous.
that's very misleading. i can only use games she has finished for obvious reasons, the other scum game she has she replaced into a scumread slot around d2 or d3 (cant remember) which changes the dynamics a bit obviously, but she still did something similar towards her partner (her preds vote was on her partner, she unvoted for no real reason and then later had a null leaning town read on the slot for no real logical reason either).

she has also finished a towngame and you are free to read up on that as well to see what i pointed all

but the fact that you come out with this statement does actually make me feel it makes noraa slightly more town, not in the sense that associations mean anything as of right now but more so because i just feel like it could be an attempt at wanting put more shade on me in case we end up limming Gamma today and he flips scum
ur statement conflicts itself. U say im throwing shade on u for having a bad argument and that means I am more scummy(im assuming thats what u meant not more towny)
i think you are misunderstanding or perhaps it was poorly worded, because i was talking about haschel throwing more shade at me
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:34 am

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This is just a reminder to please not discuss ongoing games. If you are unsure whether or not a particular post breaks this rule, you can ask me privately whether or not it's okay.
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:35 am

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In post 1627, Noraa wrote:So duppin ur argument itself was wrong. I dont understand why im not allowed to bring attention to it when ur just using an unreasonable argument that applies to every single one of my games but its literally impossible for me to be scum in 8 games at the same time
noraa i dont feel you are really reading exactly what i have been saying or maybe i am just not explaining myself properly, but if you have an issue with my logic then try to point out exactly where you believe it is wrong. i feel like it is rather difficult to have a logical discussion with you because it feels to me like you dont really understand what i am saying most of the time and i appreciate the fact that this might be my own fault and that it could be me just not explaining myself good enough
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:39 am

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Hm I read it wrong then ig.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:41 am

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Also bc u did the quote weird so I thought vp had said it
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:41 am

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The Noraa/Brightskies interactions looked bad for a day and a half; I thought each was going out of their way to look like they were commenting on the other without saying anything of substance. I specifically called them out as a scumteam multiple times.

Then Skies died and they were telling the truth about their doctor claim after all. The whole point of this game is reevaluating after getting new information so I'm not sure where you are going with this.
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:45 am

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In post 1633, Haschel Cedricson wrote:The Noraa/Brightskies interactions looked bad for a day and a half; I thought each was going out of their way to look like they were commenting on the other without saying anything of substance. I specifically called them out as a scumteam multiple times.

Then Skies died and they were telling the truth about their doctor claim after all. The whole point of this game is reevaluating after getting new information so I'm not sure where you are going with this.
oh sorry, i wanted you to elaborate on your townread on her
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:35 am

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Gamma and Haschel voted the same on every wagon it seems.

D1:
D2:
D3:
D4:

Not sure that actually means anything (my own votes closely mirror them), but it seems worth noting.
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:56 am

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In post 1635, VP Baltar wrote:Gamma and Haschel voted the same on every wagon it seems.

D1:
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Not sure that actually means anything (my own votes closely mirror them), but it seems worth noting.
Ouch partner equity.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:04 am

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lol, I was so salty at the start of D2.
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:37 am

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In post 212, Noraa wrote:if you wanna waste a hot 5 hours, you can read my only finished scumgame, Doggos.
Duppin, how do you feel about Noraa offering me the meta of her own scum game D2, unprovoked?
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:50 am

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I personally think I look better in all my town games than my scum games but seeing that duppin used the exact same game against me, im not that greatly confident in this opinion anymore.
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:52 am

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In post 1638, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 212, Noraa wrote:if you wanna waste a hot 5 hours, you can read my only finished scumgame, Doggos.
Duppin, how do you feel about Noraa offering me the meta of her own scum game D2, unprovoked?
i mean generally id say its meaningless and for noraa i am 100% certain it is not alignment indicative
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:53 am

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In post 1640, duppin wrote:
In post 1638, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 212, Noraa wrote:if you wanna waste a hot 5 hours, you can read my only finished scumgame, Doggos.
Duppin, how do you feel about Noraa offering me the meta of her own scum game D2, unprovoked?
i mean generally id say its meaningless and for noraa i am 100% certain it is not alignment indicative
why is it not AI?
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:54 am

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In post 1641, Noraa wrote:
In post 1640, duppin wrote:
In post 1638, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 212, Noraa wrote:if you wanna waste a hot 5 hours, you can read my only finished scumgame, Doggos.
Duppin, how do you feel about Noraa offering me the meta of her own scum game D2, unprovoked?
i mean generally id say its meaningless and for noraa i am 100% certain it is not alignment indicative
why is it not AI?
noraa we cant talk about this
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:56 am

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Exactly then you can't use it against me
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:57 am

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Tho if you really wanted to bring that point across, I did bring up my first scum game in my second scum game and twisted my meta a bit cuz I was desperate
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:57 am

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im not using it against you, i just said i dont think its alignment indicative to refer to your own games. both town and scum do it
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:59 am

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It is absolutely town indicative for me to bring up a scum or town game of mine to prove im town when not under pressure
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:59 am

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bringing up a game in general isnt AI correct but it depends on when.
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:00 am

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but either way there's no point in self meta cuz self meta is garbage.
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:13 am

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In post 1645, duppin wrote:im not using it against you, i just said i dont think its alignment indicative to refer to your own games. both town and scum do it
I think my point is that you are making this gigantic deal out of her scum performance in that game, and it's not like she was trying to hide it. In fact, she encouraged me specifically to go look at it without me asking.

If she was cognizant I might look at that game, why would she play to the letter of that scum meta this game, as you're implying?
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