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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:34 am

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tactically, i think town's best play here is probably to elim Flavor Leaf. He's basically a serial killer at this point. He has like an 80% chance of killing town tonight, and only a 10% chance of killing scum. we probably should have done it before he outted all the PRs though...
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:35 am

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In post 1546, Ydrasse wrote:@bm: we’re not flipping johnny because he’s informed + the information slapped + he was protected from the nk
the information slapped?

so you're saying he was the scum NK target last night? can anyone corroborate that?
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:36 am

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also where are the 5 guns?
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:39 am

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In post 1552, Battle Mage wrote:also where are the 5 guns?
Two mafia (not counting the mafia doctor) + Flavor (Odd Vig) + Mini (Even Cop) + bob (Gunsmith) = 5
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:44 am

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im checking out, my vote stays on the claimed miller
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:47 am

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In post 1551, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1546, Ydrasse wrote:@bm: we’re not flipping johnny because he’s informed + the information slapped + he was protected from the nk
the information slapped?

so you're saying he was the scum NK target last night? can anyone corroborate that?
oh, i just meant that like... it was good info in the context of the claims we had

and yeah, unless scum nked johnny was targeted
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 1527, osuka wrote:
In post 1491, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, Osuka’s probably the partner to whichever of Creature/Gamma is scum.

I naturally town read Battle and Pooky when I’m interacting with them, and Taylor has essentially lost if she is scum.
for someone whose reads are "extraordinarily good", this is remarkably wrong
I mean, all 6 of you guys are gonna say the exact same thing,
So get outta here, I don’t care at this point, we got a mech solve.
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:15 am

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In post 1520, bob3141 wrote:This is the thing we have learnt nothing new from this mass claim. We outed every town pr in exchange for knowing all the players we thought were town are town
False.

You and Mini became conf town. As did Ydrasse and Johnny.

Like come on. Think
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 1555, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 1551, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1546, Ydrasse wrote:@bm: we’re not flipping johnny because he’s informed + the information slapped + he was protected from the nk
the information slapped?

so you're saying he was the scum NK target last night? can anyone corroborate that?
oh, i just meant that like... it was good info in the context of the claims we had

and yeah, unless scum nked johnny was targeted
did he claim it before or after though?

i dunno, nothing you're saying has really changed my mind. let's just flip him.
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 1520, bob3141 wrote:This is the thing we have learnt nothing new from this mass claim. We outed every town pr in exchange for knowing all the players we thought were town are town
In post 1513, bob3141 wrote:
In post 1305, Flavor Leaf wrote:He’s a Gunsmith of sorts.

I dont think i could of been more obvious. Ive been calling myself Mr.smith and keep saying that you have gum. :-P and that BM has no gum.

Even told you, dont shoot the gunsmith wink wink
I knew you were, why are you acting like I didn’t figure it out?

I clearly stated you were a Gunsmith prior to the mass claim finishing.

Mass claim gave us an auto win.
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 1557, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1520, bob3141 wrote:This is the thing we have learnt nothing new from this mass claim. We outed every town pr in exchange for knowing all the players we thought were town are town
False.

You and Mini became conf town. As did Ydrasse and Johnny.

Like come on. Think
you think 4 people became conftown because they claimed PRs? lol id love to hear this one.
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:19 am

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In post 1560, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1557, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1520, bob3141 wrote:This is the thing we have learnt nothing new from this mass claim. We outed every town pr in exchange for knowing all the players we thought were town are town
False.

You and Mini became conf town. As did Ydrasse and Johnny.

Like come on. Think
you think 4 people became conftown because they claimed PRs? lol id love to hear this one.
They did.

Johnny’s 5 gun informed confirms Bob, Myself, and Mini as town.

And ydrasse being the only protective + protection on Johnny makes them conf town.

5 conf town.


@Bob - Can you check Taylor tonight?
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:21 am

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I still think Battle Mage is Mafia Doctor. I’ll likely shoot within them and Taylor if nothing’s figured out Night 3.


Okay, so we just need Mini to check in.


Creature actually is doing stuff, which gives him some town equity.

Battle Mage can be cleared of a Maf Doc flips.

Pooky, Osuka, Gamma is one of the 3 we should go.
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 1530, Battle Mage wrote:im conftown now? sweet, now i can live my dream of being NKed.
nope
In post 1531, Battle Mage wrote:also presumably this makes Taylor confscum, so why she not dead?
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In post 1532, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: johnnyfarrar
Hell naw.
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:24 am

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In post 1561, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1560, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1557, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1520, bob3141 wrote:This is the thing we have learnt nothing new from this mass claim. We outed every town pr in exchange for knowing all the players we thought were town are town
False.

You and Mini became conf town. As did Ydrasse and Johnny.

Like come on. Think
you think 4 people became conftown because they claimed PRs? lol id love to hear this one.
They did.

Johnny’s 5 gun informed confirms Bob, Myself, and Mini as town.

And ydrasse being the only protective + protection on Johnny makes them conf town.

5 conf town.


@Bob - Can you check Taylor tonight?
unless johnny is lying? which throws everybody else back into doubt.

ydrasse thing is not a certainty. but i'd prefer to flip johnny on your logic to confirm 3 others.

i find it hard to believe the setup would be so weak that it can be broken like this on day 2, despite scum getting a mis-elim on day 1.
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:25 am

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Pooky, osuka and Gamma refusing to thunderdome each other may point towards the last two scum being two of them.
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:26 am

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@Mini - Can you target Gamma for us?

@Taylor - Can you target 1 of the 3 we don’t fade today and separate from who Mini checks? (We talked earlier, I feel it’s acceptable not to list em again here) also, it’s fine if you target the same person as Bob.


VOTE: Osuka

Creature helps, Gamma’s on the mafia version of a groomsman, and I like Pooky around, and Osuka annoyed me.
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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:28 am

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In post 1564, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1561, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1560, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1557, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1520, bob3141 wrote:This is the thing we have learnt nothing new from this mass claim. We outed every town pr in exchange for knowing all the players we thought were town are town
False.

You and Mini became conf town. As did Ydrasse and Johnny.

Like come on. Think
you think 4 people became conftown because they claimed PRs? lol id love to hear this one.
They did.

Johnny’s 5 gun informed confirms Bob, Myself, and Mini as town.

And ydrasse being the only protective + protection on Johnny makes them conf town.

5 conf town.


@Bob - Can you check Taylor tonight?
unless johnny is lying? which throws everybody else back into doubt.

ydrasse thing is not a certainty. but i'd prefer to flip johnny on your logic to confirm 3 others.

i find it hard to believe the setup would be so weak that it can be broken like this on day 2, despite scum getting a mis-elim on day 1.
It was the block kill and scum death, and mass claim that went smoothly.

Johnny got protected by Ydrasse, and there’s no other way the no kill could have happened, and frankly Dongen/Johnny slot made sense to kill because like I said earlier, Ydrasse looks like they were being setup to be faded today.

I agree with you Creature.

I also think Battle Mage has Scum Doc potential, I called him out as Scum Doc possibly earlier too. But he seems way too out of it here tbh.
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:29 am

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In post 1562, Flavor Leaf wrote:I still think Battle Mage is Mafia Doctor. I’ll likely shoot within them and Taylor if nothing’s figured out Night 3.


Okay, so we just need Mini to check in.


Creature actually is doing stuff, which gives him some town equity.

Battle Mage can be cleared of a Maf Doc flips.

Pooky, Osuka, Gamma is one of the 3 we should go.
2 pages ago you reckoned that i had come across as town in every interaction you had with me. Which begs the unanswerable question, why did you ever think I was scum? much less so now, when statistically the odds of me being scum are pretty slim in a world where Bob is town.

i'm fine with you killing me tonight though. you're a loose cannon, and at least it stops you killing a PR. plus it means i can escape this nightmare. i'm just at a total loss to defend your 'reads' or your 'strategy'. even if you're right, and somehow managed to mechanically break the game, that's definitely not a reflection of your brilliance - it's a stroke of total luck.
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:30 am

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In post 1565, Creature wrote:Pooky, osuka and Gamma refusing to thunderdome each other may point towards the last two scum being two of them.
If you’re scum
, you’ve come a damn long way in the past few years.

I striked when I realized the sentence made more sense without the first part.
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:30 am

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In post 1556, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1527, osuka wrote:
In post 1491, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, Osuka’s probably the partner to whichever of Creature/Gamma is scum.

I naturally town read Battle and Pooky when I’m interacting with them, and Taylor has essentially lost if she is scum.
for someone whose reads are "extraordinarily good", this is remarkably wrong
I mean, all 6 of you guys are gonna say the exact same thing,
So get outta here, I don’t care at this point, we got a mech solve.
you did say earlier on you had epic reads or some shit - apparently not :lol:
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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:31 am

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In post 1568, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1562, Flavor Leaf wrote:I still think Battle Mage is Mafia Doctor. I’ll likely shoot within them and Taylor if nothing’s figured out Night 3.


Okay, so we just need Mini to check in.


Creature actually is doing stuff, which gives him some town equity.

Battle Mage can be cleared of a Maf Doc flips.

Pooky, Osuka, Gamma is one of the 3 we should go.
2 pages ago you reckoned that i had come across as town in every interaction you had with me. Which begs the unanswerable question, why did you ever think I was scum? much less so now, when statistically the odds of me being scum are pretty slim in a world where Bob is town.

i'm fine with you killing me tonight though. you're a loose cannon, and at least it stops you killing a PR. plus it means i can escape this nightmare. i'm just at a total loss to defend your 'reads' or your 'strategy'. even if you're right, and somehow managed to mechanically break the game, that's definitely not a reflection of your brilliance - it's a stroke of total luck.

I can’t kill tonight. I’m odd night.
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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:31 am

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In post 1563, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1530, Battle Mage wrote:im conftown now? sweet, now i can live my dream of being NKed.
nope
In post 1531, Battle Mage wrote:also presumably this makes Taylor confscum, so why she not dead?
nope
In post 1532, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: johnnyfarrar
Hell naw.
VOTE: BM
you are claiming scum here? excellent
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Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:32 am

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VOTE: gamma

so we can flip something
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:32 am

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I like you around too when you post stuff that makes sense :3
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