mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Bell]

I think I want to do SB or ban hydra today.

Zero percent chance Nero takes this tack as scum imo.

[Bell]

Wait, actually nvm. SB pushed at him first. Never mind. Scum love to omgus that so back to just probably town.

[jjh927]

As scum you wouldn’t gambit like this would you?

Don't think so

Can't see scum!me pulling a gambit day 1 of a large theme. Too much risk.

[mastina]

What are those townier/less towny moments, I thought you said it was just all null?

For your hydra, 699 is the townier moment, tho there may be more in the more recent posting (too tired to sift through and judge more accurately).

The more scum moment is the lack of radiating town along with maybe who you're pressuring/defending/not pressuring/not defending. (Which, again, I need to look at in more detail, because I feel like I am on the right track to a solve, that I have honed in on the right area, it just needs to be refined and perfected, and you're one of the players that needs to be analyzed to see if you fit as more likely town or scum in a five-man scumteam unit.)

[Bell]

As scum you wouldn’t gambit like this would you?

Don't think so

Can't see scum!me pulling a gambit day 1 of a large theme. Too much risk.

Thanks town jjh.

[Nero Cain]

SB pushed at him first.

no he actully didn't

[Bell]

SB pushed at him first.

no he actully didn't

I stand corrected.

[mastina]

Tempted to say we should unironically quicklaunch Gamma. Him ignoring my vote or Nero's declaration that he's scum while catching up is also scum-indicative.
Also, don't get scared by how quickly the wagon is growing. Scum are gonna want the sweet sweet buscred for this.
~Buttercup

This is very reasonable.
-Blossom

Ah, right, this would be another of the more townie posts.
Regardless of Gamma's alignment, actually (Gamma flipping town doesn't make the post look less town to me, but--see rest of sentence), and probably something that indicates not-SvS with Gamma.

[mastina]

@Diamond, Talk to me about your BH and superbowl9 scumreads.

BH - The constant flippancy between the heads screams of an attempt to keep people from getting a coherent read, which is itself a read.
Superbowl - Oh gosh, where to start. The constant proclamations that they're town (no really, trust them on this). Town never have to say that they're town. It's implied in what they say and how they say it. A complete lack of any transparency about their thought process. The only thing remotely towny about them is their insistence on gutreads, but given that that's about all they've done, that's deserving of a policy elim just the same. (note that my desire to remove them is not policy. It is genuine scumread. I'm saying the only thing town-like of them deserves a policy)

This does make me feel better about DiamondSentinel, tho.

So like.

Where I'm at is basically.

Titus
Nero Cain
Vecna
Menalque
samantha97

TheGoldenParadox
jjh927

superbowl9
Pickaxe Pete
Almost50

DiamondSentinel
Ban Hydras
April Ludgate

Christøpher

EchoVision
DrDolittle
(Morning Mage, NorwegianboyEE*, Tayl0r Swift*)

PlusJOYED

Gamma Emerald
Bell

Locktown, locktown-candidates, strong-town, tentative-town, dead-null, final two scum candidates, scumread, strong scumreads.

*Notably, neither of these two on their own would be pinging me and in a void I'd think both to be town, but given the interactions I remember with them and those around/below them in the readslist, with who they are pressuring/defending/not pressuring/not defending, to my memory that makes them scum candidates because it feels like possible-scumbuddy stuff.

[Nero Cain]

Also if SB was town he should have been more like me an alarmed @ the speed of the Gamma wagon. He's pooh poohing my getting off Gamma b/c he wants to speed things up and go to night phase.

[Bell]

VOTE: mastina

BOP

[mastina]

If you don't have a solve by the time I've reached page 40 then you go down in my estimate from 'probably a good' to 'all smoke & ego - not worth listening to'. This is going to be interesting to see.

I know I’m late but how does (superbowl, plus, gamma, Taylor) sound as a starting point

I'm pretty sure superbowl is town here--I disagree with a lot of superbowl's reads and takes, but I genuinely just ~feel~ like they come from town.

Now, for the other three there--definitely got my backing there as I am seeing similar and looking in the same place.
(So basically, if you subbed superbowl out and placed Bell in, you'd be pretty much almost exactly where I am at.)

[Bell]

More votes on Mastina for the crime of probably strategically voting rather than responding dynamically to play.

Then again title etc.

[mastina]

Good call. We should probably discuss nightkills in there, Blossom.
~Buttercup

(For the record, this is more of the :townvibes: I was wanting to see, so, yes, I am indeed feeling much better about Ban Hydras right now--probably need to move them up into 'town' from their position in 'tentative town'. Not to the 'strong town' category, but I think they deserve at least more than a 'tentative'.)

[mastina]

Gamma Emerald

(8):

Almost50

,

Ban Hydras

,

Nero Cain

,

Pickaxe Pete

,

Menalque, Titus, superbowl9

,

NorwegianboyEE

Ban Hydras

(3):

PlusJOYED

,

DiamondSentinel

,

Christøpher

Where green = locktown, blue = strong town, cyan = town, white = tentative town, gray = dead null, yellow = possible scum, orange = scum, red = strong scum.

Take a guess as to which wagon I think is on scum and driven by town, and which wagon I think is on town and driven by scum.

[Bell]

I should probably clarify.

I came into this game like a shithead but have since played nothing like that but no budge means that mastina’s read itself is artificial.

[mastina]

I see this is the coolkid wagon.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
I don't highly scumread Gamma, but they haven't really towntold.

VOTE: Norwee
Opportunistic wagon hop on a likely town + disclaimer = scumtell. Discuss

I have an alternative take.
You're dead on the money on the opportunistic hop-on with the disclaimer being a scum indicator.

My thought is that it is an awkward attempt at forcing a bus on a scumbuddy tho.

[mastina]

im null on norwee atm. My attention has been kinda focused elsewhere; I'm not even gonna try to pay attention to every single slot. that's the problem with a huge plist.
I prefer a power puff elim over battle mage elim. I actually want a hydra elim today though.

(This does add fuel to my fire in thinking that Plus-Gamma-Bell-Norwegian-MorningMage has a reasonably high chance of containing at least 3, probably at least four, scum. Maybe not all five are scum, heck maybe two are town, but I do think that those five names contain a minimum of 3 scum, probably more, right now.)

[Bell]

im null on norwee atm. My attention has been kinda focused elsewhere; I'm not even gonna try to pay attention to every single slot. that's the problem with a huge plist.
I prefer a power puff elim over battle mage elim. I actually want a hydra elim today though.

(This does add fuel to my fire in thinking that Plus-Gamma-Bell-Norwegian-MorningMage has a reasonably high chance of containing at least 3, probably at least four, scum. Maybe not all five are scum, heck maybe two are town, but I do think that those five names contain a minimum of 3 scum, probably more, right now.)

*blink*
Oh. You’re playing like April.
Never mind.

VOTE: gamma emerald.

You do you silly person.

[mastina]

I don't like Mastina's intro - I'd hope her reads includes a bit more nuance than what is represented.

Oh they do, and since I kinda feel like uniting my townbloc and getting to the honing in/refining process by using them as sounding boards, I do need to give that more in-depth thorough readslist. Not today (I'm actually borderline-delirious right now, I dunno why but I feel lightheaded, kinda dizzy, in spite of being well-hydrated and well-rested and having stayed on top of taking vitamins and not being stomach-churningly hungry, so I'm not up to it in the moment), but I feel like I'm ~in the zone~, and just need some help from the towncore to perfect it.

The game feels close to locked, I just need to push it over the edge and will give the extended extensive version of the readslist when I am physically able to do so. (Hopefully, tomorrow, with luck at least.)

[mastina]

is april someone i should be aware of?

I seem to recall you and Flavor Leaf/Boonskiies/thisdudehasliterallydozensofaltschooseanameofhisofyourpreference have rather extensive history together and know each other extremely well--so yes, you absolutely should. April Ludgate is a public alt of Flavor Leaf/Boonskiies.

[jjh927]

Can we maybe slow down on the gamma votes before the day ends prematurely

[Bell]

Why? Besides there being less information to work with if wrong?

[Nero Cain]

^You could argue this is scummy

(not that I think JJH is scum unless it's with Gamma)

[mastina]

Anyway so I'm ascetic

Townbin it is.

(I realize schadd_ can and has made scum ascetics.
I just don't think jjh is one.)