mystery box of silver 10. (done)

Almost50 · Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:49 am

In post 1521, Nero Cain wrote:im counting a50 and SB. Even if they do win with the town I feel like anything that's not TOWN is scum. There are those that say that a 3p that can win with town aren't scum but I don't really buy into that philosophy.

Sure thing, buddy. Remember I said I'd agree to ANYTHING you say just to save myself the headache? You are absolutely on the right track. Carry on.

Menalque · Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:50 am

yeah, but he means he was picking up on like a hidden connection and extra info in your play, I kiiiind of don't disagree with his take if he has been pushing you both consistently

Nero Cain · Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:50 am

but u r still 3p.

I mean, it ultimatly doesn't matter so lets selve the "is 3p scum?" talk and lynch the mafia, no?

Ban Hydras · Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:50 am

In post 1502, samantha97 wrote:
In post 1495, Titus wrote: The odds of that happenening are 1 in / 23 -2 (outed "3p masons") -1 (cop won't check themselves).
it's less than that because of the lynch too, and cops wouldn't operate in a vacuum where each person has an equal chance of being investigated

it also leaves room for an errant vigilante if there is one of those as well

The easy solution to this is for vigs/cops to work in the public masons POE.

In post 1509, Menalque wrote:
In post 1493, Ban Hydras wrote:Menalaque should know their take is terrible.
err, why?

Unless you're VERY confident on them being scum then eliminating them is objectivly dumb. If we vote one off then the next dies at night (and the last is possibly left unconfirmed depending on whether the hammer is a quickhammer or not) we used our vote to lose 2 confirmed town (and a 3 person masonary is likely going to be a material part of our prs).

If you are very confident on them being scum then hard push for them to reveal the third, then factor it in looking for interactions between the three of them to decide if they are all groupscum that claimed it rather than going 'I want to kill one now'. Sure, you didn't outright say you wanted to kill one right now so this could be your intention anyway, but it'd like you to spell out your thought process on it whether it is this or something else.

-Blossom

Menalque · Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:51 am

sure would be nice if we had a VC right about now

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:52 am

Is there any reason why we can't know what the specific name of the 3P mason clique thing is?

Ban Hydras · Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:52 am

To clarify objectively bad, I mean weighing up the benefit of them if town vs the likelihood of them being town/scum.

-Blossom

Nero Cain · Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:52 am

we'd need a mod and IDK where u buy those.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:52 am

In post 1530, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Is there any reason why we can't know what the specific name of the 3P mason clique thing is?

we do know. iso superbowl

Menalque · Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:53 am

In post 1528, Ban Hydras wrote:Unless you're VERY confident on them being scum then eliminating them is objectivly dumb. If we vote one off then the next dies at night (and the last is possibly left unconfirmed depending on whether the hammer is a quickhammer or not) we used our vote to lose 2 confirmed town (and a 3 person masonary is likely going to be a material part of our prs).

If you are very confident on them being scum then hard push for them to reveal the third, then factor it in looking for interactions between the three of them to decide if they are all groupscum that claimed it rather than going 'I want to kill one now'. Sure, you didn't outright say you wanted to kill one right now so this could be your intention anyway, but it'd like you to spell out your thought process on it whether it is this or something else.

it's more a question of I'm not sure I'm confident enough in them collectively town to let scum bring all 3 of them to lylo by the end of the game and then have to decide if they are scum fake claiming together or genuinely miller masons. I'm undecided where I'm coming down on the question, but I don't think it's a horrible take to say that resolving that ambiguity and forcing scum to kill there (and not on other PRs) is a good thing to do earlier rather than later UNLESS there is a high level of consensus that this is definitely town/town-aligned 3p

Titus · Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:54 am

Requested a VC by PM

Ban Hydras · Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:54 am

I should probably get back to excel now.

In post 1523, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1508, Ban Hydras wrote:Can you define the bloat part- is this something different to half of our stuff being jokes?
but yeah, no different. Being fluff always has and always will be seen as scummy. I'm far from the only one on this site that's going to find fluffiness scummy. Its kinda silly and fake sounding that someone would think your slot is scummy.

Can you rephrase the second sentence, it currently reads as 'it's fake sounding for someone to think BH is scummy' which I'm fairly sure isn't your view.

-Blossom

Menalque · Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:54 am

nero are you still scumreading me

also, thanks Titus

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:55 am

In post 1504, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 1500, Nero Cain wrote:whats your role name in the pm?
GOLIATH GOUTHWITS HEALTH INTERNS

It's this? I thought that was a joke.

Titus · Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:56 am

In post 1533, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1530, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Is there any reason why we can't know what the specific name of the 3P mason clique thing is?
we do know. iso superbowl

For the lazy of us...

Pickaxe Pete · Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:56 am

In post 1520, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1504, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 1500, Nero Cain wrote:whats your role name in the pm?
GOLIATH GOUTHWITS HEALTH INTERNS
GDI! We are TOTALLY unorganized, aren't we??

Moving on.

Sounds legit?

Pickaxe Pete · Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:57 am

In post 1540, Pickaxe Pete wrote:
In post 1520, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1504, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 1500, Nero Cain wrote:whats your role name in the pm?
GOLIATH GOUTHWITS HEALTH INTERNS
GDI! We are TOTALLY unorganized, aren't we??

Moving on.
Sounds legit?

Doesn't necessarily mean town-aligned though I guess.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:58 am

In post 1536, Ban Hydras wrote:Can you rephrase the second sentence, it currently reads as 'it's fake sounding for someone to think BH is scummy' which I'm fairly sure isn't your view.

im saying that its fake that you are acting like its so preposterous that someone would think your slot is scummy.

@ mena

sure man

Nero Cain · Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:00 am

friendly reminder that vecna is scum still

Menalque · Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:01 am

In post 1542, Nero Cain wrote:@ mena sure man

*deep sigh*

Menalque · Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:01 am

@skitter I really wish you were playing in this and not just spectating

superbowl9 · Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:02 am

In post 1530, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Is there any reason why we can't know what the specific name of the 3P mason clique thing is?

I already said it, but it doesn't really give you any info its just flavor

Nero Cain · Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:03 am

like ok mena, wanting to hurry up and lynch Gamma just seems incredibly scummy to me. I mean, my gut reaction was that Gamma was scum and maybe he is but I don't see a good reason to end the day so quickly.

superbowl9 · Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:05 am

In post 1534, Menalque wrote:it's more a question of I'm not sure I'm confident enough in them collectively town to let scum bring all 3 of them to lylo by the end of the game and then have to decide if they are scum fake claiming together or genuinely miller masons. I'm undecided where I'm coming down on the question, but I don't think it's a horrible take to say that resolving that ambiguity and forcing scum to kill there (and not on other PRs) is a good thing to do earlier rather than later UNLESS there is a high level of consensus that this is definitely town/town-aligned 3p

I normally agree but waiting here makes sense from your thought process no? We have the time to wait until almost-Lylo, in which case if you still think all 3 of us are scum gambiting you can elim one of us and head to lylo with a conftown.

superbowl9 · Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:06 am

In post 1547, Nero Cain wrote:like ok mena, wanting to hurry up and lynch Gamma just seems incredibly scummy to me. I mean, my gut reaction was that Gamma was scum and maybe he is but I don't see a good reason to end the day so quickly.

Nero I normally agree but with this many players/days the value of continuing a clusterfuck day 1 is not really that high