Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Alonzo]

You need to be 101% transparent today, before you pull the trigger, no secret appeal to meta ' I secretly tr my scum reads and vice versa' BS

[Noraa]

lmao

[Noraa]

I shall try

[TheGoldenParadox]

i'm a little busy until the weekend, so if you guys could possibly not kill me until then that would be great. i want to re-examine D1 properly with all the info we have now.

i mean, i'd appreciate not dying at all, but i really don't think that's going to happen, so.

i think i was probably right in the first place about bob, the only reason i stopped thinking he was scum is that there wasn't enough town power without him, but given that both Noraa and Mena were apparently lying when they claimed VT, that's no longer the case.

and look:

Combined Mailman Vanilla Cop
Odd-Night Complex Traffic Analyst
Role Watcher Neighbor
Ascetic Indecisive Doctor Neighbor
Novice 3-Shot Vigilante
Follower

is it just me, or is one of these things not like the others?

bob/Datisi i think.

i'm sure no one will listen to me before i'm dead, but please give me a chance to leave you something substantial, and pay attention to it once i'm gone. that's all i ask.

this is... actually a decent point.
the problem here is that i agree with bob that this setup is already scum sided, and it would be even more so if bob were scum. do you disagree with that?

[TheGoldenParadox]

iaaun is probably scum, and likely the lim for today. that being said, i'm reconsidering my confirmed town on bob.

right now {me, ico, noraa} are mechanically confirmed. let me figure out bob.

[Noraa]

iaaun is probably scum, and likely the lim for today. that being said, i'm reconsidering my confirmed town on bob.

right now {me, ico, noraa} are mechanically confirmed. let me figure out bob.

how am I mechanically confirmed?

[TheGoldenParadox]

iaaun is probably scum, and likely the lim for today. that being said, i'm reconsidering my confirmed town on bob.

right now {me, ico, noraa} are mechanically confirmed. let me figure out bob.

how am I mechanically confirmed?

you're a vig. town power wouldn't be enough without you.

[Noraa]

that true

[iamausername]

the problem here is that i agree with bob that this setup is already scum sided, and it would be even more so if bob were scum.

do you disagree with that?

with the caveat that i took a six-year break that only ended a few months ago, so i don't know a whole lot about how setups are balanced these days,

if scum have no power besides Traffic Analyst, which i think is extremely mediocre as a scum power, then Vig+Doc+Mailman/Vanilla Cop+Role Watcher seems entirely reasonable to me? two weak investigative roles + one protective role + one shooty shooty role sounds fine as town power?

[Alonzo]

the problem here is that i agree with bob that this setup is already scum sided, and it would be even more so if bob were scum.

do you disagree with that?

with the caveat that i took a six-year break that only ended a few months ago, so i don't know a whole lot about how setups are balanced these days,

if scum have no power besides Traffic Analyst, which i think is extremely mediocre as a scum power, then Vig+Doc+Mailman/Vanilla Cop+Role Watcher seems entirely reasonable to me? two weak investigative roles + one protective role + one shooty shooty role sounds fine as town power?

Bit if you had to cynically off one of them who would it be?

[Alonzo]

Why isn't this scum! Noraa in plain sight?

[Alonzo]

I don't know icos meta but it's only schmedium town RN...

[Datisi]

y'all post too much

i'll do proper reading and sPeCc when i get some sleep. tho i did see talk of ico being a scum doctor and i just wanna say i am disappointed in whoever is town and pushing that idea. ico is town and i will keep screaming about it however long necessary

[Alonzo]

Cos meta? Cos of how they handled their reveal? Cost of post #s X,y and z?

[Alonzo]

What's a town triangle??

[Datisi]

cos 15+ games of meta, the way they claimed was towny, i'm on a streak reading ico correctly, and also the flipped scum role very heavily implies a town/town hood

town triangle is the way i make readslists sometimes

[Noraa]

Why isn't this scum! Noraa in plain sight?

you think I'm scum?

y'all post too much

i'll do proper reading and sPeCc when i get some sleep. tho i did see talk of ico being a scum doctor and i just wanna say i am disappointed in whoever is town and pushing that idea. ico is town and i will keep screaming about it however long necessary

I didnt push this but its absolutely possible imo.

[Datisi]

dragon's heart is pure and i will yell about it as long as i'm still breathing

[Noraa]

except that a lot of people think ur scum so if ur scum, it doesn't really matter if u say someone is towny, u'd be saying it just to pocket

[Datisi]

except i am not scum and i know how to read ico and i'm trying to stop y'all from throwing

[Noraa]

well no one was down to lim ico today anyways so :/

[Datisi]

good.

[Alonzo]

[bob3141]

the problem here is that i agree with bob that this setup is already scum sided, and it would be even more so if bob were scum.

do you disagree with that?

with the caveat that i took a six-year break that only ended a few months ago, so i don't know a whole lot about how setups are balanced these days,

if scum have no power besides Traffic Analyst, which i think is extremely mediocre as a scum power, then Vig+Doc+Mailman/Vanilla Cop+Role Watcher seems entirely reasonable to me? two weak investigative roles + one protective role + one shooty shooty role sounds fine as town power?

Towns are normally townsided on the verge of too townsided. So the fact that this game is scum sided when you take account of all the claimed town pr makes it very unlikely that any town power could be scum.



Also care to explain in light of teacher scum flip why you started off scum reading him day one. And come day 3 all of sudden you start shifting to leaning towards him being town. As i see he was still your pool. Did you at the point of his exec still town read him or were you back to scum reading him?

[Noraa]

What bob said ^ actually makes a lot of sense ngl. I'll have to assume all the prs r town. That makes it much easier actually.
We just have all the vanilla claims.
4 vanilla claims
3 eliminations left
and 1 vig kill to top it off