Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[Noraa]

*people talking about the duppin kill being meant to set up noraa

That is a much more reasonable way for a human being to convey that thought.

this post didnt show up in my pedits for some reason but I will check that out tmrw definitely.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Not_Mafia was prodded.

I can't wait until the next time he comes into the game thread and votes for Seacake Crumplebutt or something and then yeets off again for another 24 hours.

maybe we will finally get a clue to the identity of the mysterious rizzo

[Blitzo]

In similar terms gamma is a null.

I just called you a slight SR. How do you feel about it?

I kind of don't really care honestly.
I get that you're fencesitty on him but, like, there's a

huge

case on him that you completely ignored and I'd really like your opinion on it.

you kind of don't care that I'm SRing u?
LEL u are a full on SR for that statement.
don't throw shade and discredit my opinions like that.

Sorry, but your reads seem shallow and it's hard for me to take them seriously when they aren't really backed by anything.
If you feel like you want to press me on some opinions or something then go for it. I just don't feel like you've presented anything wrt myself that I really need to address because there's nothing there.

I'd be happy to engage you about actual things but I feel like you're just dancing around things happening in thread in order to push nonsense.

I also don't particularly understand why you keep dodging the Gamma case. What's up with that?

[Noraa]

way to try to flip it around on me knowing that I've played poorly all game.

[Thestatusquo]

OK but if you know you don't have good reads why aren't you rereading the thread trying to find them?

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 2.2

Panzerjager

(2): Gamma Emerald, Blitzo

Gamma Emerald

(2): Kasumeat, UneducatedGuesser

Noraa

(2): OutWorldER, The Bulge

OutWorldER

(1): Thestatusquo

Not voting

(4): Panzerjager, Not_Mafia, PookyTheMagicalBear, Noraa

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to yeet someone.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-10-23 22:50:00)

[Blitzo]

way to try to flip it around on me knowing that I've played poorly all game.

Can you just answer my questions? They're not even that difficult and I'm not even pressuring you particularly hard.
Like what are you even doing right now?

[Thestatusquo]

like this whole "poor little ol' me I can't figure anything out. I'm so bad lel I tunneled bad last town game so I'm gunna wipe everything" act is cute but its not a town mindset to then just...do nothing about it? In games where I'm town and I can't figure out squat I go back and I reread the thread again and I sometimes even take notes as I go.

Like I get it. You don't have good reads. It's cool that you're admitting that instead of attacking me for pointing it out, but why are you so unconcerned about GETTING good reads.

[Blitzo]

TSQ what is your opinion on Gamma? I remember you commenting on the case saying you liked the post, but then you just kind of went off and did your own thing.
Do you think Gamma is town/scum or did your read not evolve there?

[Thestatusquo]

I don't have a firm grasp of gamma in this game. I still have pings of him trying to buddy me quite a lot d1 as well as the bulge doing the same, but he's kind of been in the background.

But, come to think of it, in my only experience with him in white flag he was much more visible and forceful about trying to figure out the game then this.

Now granted, that was team mafia so he had a team behind him as well in that game, so it's hard to read too much into that. But those are my thoughts on gamma, and they're not much. Which is kind of telling in and of itself. I should probably go back and re-read him.

[Thestatusquo]

Unfortunately I dont have a ton of time to devote to this game right now because it's crunch time at work. Holiday code freeze coming up. :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This game state is not something I’ve often seen – usually when there is a clear 1v1 between two wagons on D1 and it ends with a green-flip, the runner up on D2 gets put on the hot-seat. Instead there’s been a distinct lack of pressure my way for some reason.

I think there are a few possible explanations for this.

a) Scum are scared of getting yeeted like MC was – they decide to look for easier targets.
b) Scum want to save me for later as my credibility is more damaged after misyeeting on D1 and I can be an easier push later.
c) My reads are completely off-base and I need to re-evaluate everything.

There is a good chance it is a combination of all three factors so I am going to flush everything and re-orient my reads.

These things are weird to me:

Blitzo/Kasu have moved on to greener pastures – they were voting for me to be elim’d yesterday – if anything MC flipping green should’ve made them more convinced the flipping Pooky is good. Instead they come out swinging for other people. I like Kasu better than Blitzo because Kasu at least sounds like he’s interested in what I have to say in 1750 whereas I’ve somehow completely dropped off Blitzo’s radar and he’s now onto PanzerJager? This is a strange progression.

Blitzo’s EOD spat with Gamma Emerald also seems to have randomly disappeared – like why ? I don’t really get it.
Look at Blitzo’s Gamma progression here:
He says he’s rethought about Gamma 1655
In 1730 he pushes on UGuesser’s post on Gamma
UGuesser lays down a massive wall on 1732
And this is where Blitzo begins backing off a bit on 1738 but still shades UG on some points about “too many scumreads” and calls him out for lurking.
UG swings back with another wallpost on 1744
Gets backup from TSQ saying his post is really good, I agree on the next post, Noraa agrees but shades UG.
Kasu also agrees on the next page so now it looks like the game has shifted and you can see how fast the wheels are spinning in blitzo’s head at this point…

Now blitzo re-orients away and shades Noraa/Bulge in 1830 completing his disengagement from UG..

Later he begins asking other people such as Noraa and Gamma in 1858 and 1831 about Gamma – following up on UG’s case for UG – which is curious because looking at Blitzo’s ISO he never really pushes gamma or puts out his own opinion on gamma so it feels like he’s testing the warmth of the water before dipping his toes in.

I’m have a bunch of other re-reading to do but that’s so far my thoughts on Blitzo. I need to re-read Gamma, and Duppin. I tried re-reading Noraa but it’s kind of difficult because she has a lot of posts and I’m unable to follow her line of thought at many times.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

There's a good chance I'm like just wrong here about Blitzo because I don't think it makes sense for Blitzo-scum to give me this much of a wide berth and attack other people.

I'm gonna re-read my town-reads after I finish up with G/D/N and I hope I can be less of a driving force behind the yeet today as I think yesterday was maybe a bit too centered on MC/Me fighting it out and that's not going to be great for solving later down the road.

[PJ.]

Thinking that day 1 was defined by you and mc bickering seems very bizarre to me and I recall very little of that happening. I'm also not exactly sure the motivation behind viewing the game that way.

[OutWorldER]

regarding other happenings in the game:

@Noraa, you said, way earlier in the thread, that your meta is unreliable because you are a new player whose style is constantly shifting.

do you still stand by this?

My meta is constantly shifting but there are things that won't change. Im not gonna fuck over all my future scum games by telling everyone here my town tells but I assure u they exist. If Bulge is scum, I still feel he set me up quite well. He knows how my town game is for the most part and he knows I'm inexperienced as hell. Setting me up thru a chain of questions like that isnt hard for him and he knows it.

you are getting really defensive when this wasn't even my main point.

my point, was that if you stand by that earlier statement, should the same thing not also apply to Guesser, who's newer than you, actually.

[Not_Mafia]

Not_Mafia was prodded.

I can't wait until the next time he comes into the game thread and votes for Seacake Crumplebutt or something and then yeets off again for another 24 hours.

maybe we will finally get a clue to the identity of the mysterious rizzo

Rossi*

[Not_Mafia]

Noraa's giving me town vibes out the wazoo, not interested in going there. Still think Outworld needs to be hyperyeeted asap, Could also so Kasu, Blitzo, Panzer or Bulge.

VOTE: Seacake Crumplebutt

[Noraa]

regarding other happenings in the game:

@Noraa, you said, way earlier in the thread, that your meta is unreliable because you are a new player whose style is constantly shifting.

do you still stand by this?

My meta is constantly shifting but there are things that won't change. Im not gonna fuck over all my future scum games by telling everyone here my town tells but I assure u they exist. If Bulge is scum, I still feel he set me up quite well. He knows how my town game is for the most part and he knows I'm inexperienced as hell. Setting me up thru a chain of questions like that isnt hard for him and he knows it.

you are getting really defensive when this wasn't even my main point.

my point, was that if you stand by that earlier statement, should the same thing not also apply to Guesser, who's newer than you, actually.

guesser is not newer than me :/

[Noraa]

Currently I would like to sheep pookys read on blitz.
1) bc I am very lost this game and I personally think both shea and pooky who actually know what they are doing are town and I'd prefer to follow pooky as I believe following shea will lead to a lot of shade thrown my way.
2) I personally am starting o realize I haven't paid enough attention to blitz and he does ping my scum radar quite a bit. I'll be rereading blitz today.

[OutWorldER]

regarding other happenings in the game:

@Noraa, you said, way earlier in the thread, that your meta is unreliable because you are a new player whose style is constantly shifting.

do you still stand by this?

My meta is constantly shifting but there are things that won't change. Im not gonna fuck over all my future scum games by telling everyone here my town tells but I assure u they exist. If Bulge is scum, I still feel he set me up quite well. He knows how my town game is for the most part and he knows I'm inexperienced as hell. Setting me up thru a chain of questions like that isnt hard for him and he knows it.

you are getting really defensive when this wasn't even my main point.

my point, was that if you stand by that earlier statement, should the same thing not also apply to Guesser, who's newer than you, actually.

guesser is not newer than me :/

last I checked, August comes before September.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Thinking that day 1 was defined by you and mc bickering seems very bizarre to me and I recall very little of that happening. I'm also not exactly sure the motivation behind viewing the game that way.

for most of the last 2-3 days we were locked into a fight between me and MC with most of the votes consolidating into one side or the other. No other wagons were viable imo.

[Noraa]

Guesser started in like 2015 or something. Idk if thats an alt or if guesser started on a different website but guesser is certainly more experienced than me.

[PJ.]

Thinking that day 1 was defined by you and mc bickering seems very bizarre to me and I recall very little of that happening. I'm also not exactly sure the motivation behind viewing the game that way.

for most of the last 2-3 days we were locked into a fight between me and MC with most of the votes consolidating into one side or the other. No other wagons were viable imo.

I was under the impression that noraa was the only alternative wagon with the only people even considering you being MC and Blitzo w/ several people expressing they had 0 interest in yeeting you, so again, this is a bizarre stance to hold.

[PJ.]

Also, looking back at duppin, the only person I could see suggesting to take him out over shea is Gamma.

[Noraa]

Thinking that day 1 was defined by you and mc bickering seems very bizarre to me and I recall very little of that happening. I'm also not exactly sure the motivation behind viewing the game that way.

for most of the last 2-3 days we were locked into a fight between me and MC with most of the votes consolidating into one side or the other. No other wagons were viable imo.

I was under the impression that noraa was the only alternative wagon with the only people even considering you being MC and Blitzo w/ several people expressing they had 0 interest in yeeting you, so again, this is a bizarre stance to hold.

if anything it was a big fight between me and murder. Panzer ur posts are getting better and better Im moving you to a TR bc I see a lot more useful content and stuff that I actually agree with quite a bit(tho I must admit I wasn't really paying u any attention yesterday)