Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[Isis]

Much of my thinking was that his read progressions don't make sense and the way he is mentioning reads doesn't fit well into pushing a player he wants to flip and trying to get other people to vote that person too, or being suspicious of someone and asking questions of that person to figure them out. It's a lot of tossing and changing places for no reason.

Generally when he articulates reasons they make sense, but it doesn't make sense that he is where his.

Like even if you spot him good faith on whatever excuse he is going to say about Datisi, why would he say, "I would be happy flipping egotisi today" while voting me and not seeming to scumread me any less than that scumleany reason he came up with? Shouldn't you be unhappy if you don't get your first choice?

Positioning is what I had in mind.
I kind of agree that Exorcists is bleeding obvtown though, whether that is scummy would just be paranoia over whether the weird timing of it was "I just reread some isos and Exorcists' obvtown iso is screamy" or "my partners pointed out/I realized I'm not townreading many people and Exorcists probably isn't getting voted out anyways" but I don't know how you'd pick one of those over the other.
Swift and Battle mage probably aren't both scum, and Swift doesn't look great either though?

[Isis]

Swift show me your townsoul

[MURDERCAT]

I feel like we are at different places because I am struggling to find townies. Who are your top 3?

[Isis]

Exorcist, Jewels, and actually Canadian.

I have lots of people I have a bit or piece to feel like they are townier than rand but I'm not excited to bet the game on them or something

[MURDERCAT]

I can get down with the first two, narwhal I need to see more from

[Tayl0r Swift]

Noraa has lots of unfairly caught scum vibes, but then I keep changing my mind

I think doing something with my vote is better than nothing so I'll go VOTE: Taylor for now.

Somewhat scummy that she'd warn people her energy was going to be lower instead of waiting to get pressured since she's usually so devil may care.

I'm townreading lots of things

it was more an apology because i havent been posting much.

[MURDERCAT]

What do you think of narwhal tayl0r

[Tayl0r Swift]

Swift show me your townsoul

only open this if youre sure youre ready to see my townsoul, and if you think you can handle it.

Spoiler:

[Tayl0r Swift]

What do you think of narwhal tayl0r

you mean random? uh less townie than ive seen. not a firm read tho.

[Battle Mage]

Noraa has lots of unfairly caught scum vibes, but then I keep changing my mind

I think doing something with my vote is better than nothing so I'll go VOTE: Taylor for now.

Somewhat scummy that she'd warn people her energy was going to be lower instead of waiting to get pressured since she's usually so devil may care.

I'm townreading lots of things

nice distancing here, i'll bite

VOTE: Taylor

[Battle Mage]

Ok I'm going to case Battle Mage.

90 misinterps Tayl0r as I pointed out at the time. I think this comes from a fast read of the post looking for something to poke at more often than it comes from town who I think would genuinely read it.

110 feels realllllly weak to me still along with 121

I think all the defeated language around 229 is fake

589 is totally inconsistent with the push on Tayl0r which obviously lost steam.

593 feels like a sheep of Isis and to be honest I don't see it

Including 600 BM just has way too many scum reads and not enough town reads. What really sticks out is how it feels like the Tayl0r push just got totally dropped and Tayl0r did nothing to deserve it being dropped if it was a genuine read.

VOTE: Battle Mage

Taylor 'push' was not dropped as such. She is still my top scumread and has been throughout. I just stopped labouring the point cause I was getting loads of shit about it so I've been taking more of a backseat.

I don't think having too many scumreads and not many townreads is scummy - objectively I'd normally consider that a towntell as it doesn't benefit BM-scum to attack everyone and piss everyone off.

post 593 is me saying Exorcists is my top townread. You say it's a sheep of Isis? I don't know how you jumped to that conclusion. Isis is one of my prime scumreads so doesn't make sense I'd be sheeping her reads even if I was scum. In reality I just Iso'd Exorcists and decided they seemed like the towniest slot. If you want to debate that point, we can?

post 589 is a random read on egotisi. I don't know what you think that has to do with Taylor - you'll have to explain that one.

This doesn't feel to me like a good-faith case, and certainly not a credible one. It's also written in such a way as to conceal it's weaknesses, which is telling in itself.

[Battle Mage]

Isis come talk to me about this? Are we seeing the same things?

you make a case on me, and care more about engaging Isis on it than me? interesting...

[Battle Mage]

Much of my thinking was that his read progressions don't make sense and the way he is mentioning reads doesn't fit well into pushing a player he wants to flip and trying to get other people to vote that person too, or being suspicious of someone and asking questions of that person to figure them out. It's a lot of tossing and changing places for no reason.

Generally when he articulates reasons they make sense, but it doesn't make sense that he is where his.

Like even if you spot him good faith on whatever excuse he is going to say about Datisi, why would he say, "I would be happy flipping egotisi today" while voting me and not seeming to scumread me any less than that scumleany reason he came up with? Shouldn't you be unhappy if you don't get your first choice?

Positioning is what I had in mind.
I kind of agree that Exorcists is bleeding obvtown though, whether that is scummy would just be paranoia over whether the weird timing of it was "I just reread some isos and Exorcists' obvtown iso is screamy" or "my partners pointed out/I realized I'm not townreading many people and Exorcists probably isn't getting voted out anyways" but I don't know how you'd pick one of those over the other.
Swift and Battle mage probably aren't both scum, and Swift doesn't look great either though?

i'll respond to this later i think

[Battle Mage]

who the fk is narwhal?

[xofelf]

I think Narwhal is Random Canadian?

[MURDERCAT]

In reality I just Iso'd Exorcists and decided they seemed like the towniest slot. If you want to debate that point, we can?

Sure I'd like to hear the reasoning

[MURDERCAT]

Isis come talk to me about this? Are we seeing the same things?

you make a case on me, and care more about engaging Isis on it than me? interesting...

Yeah because isis had just posted about you

[MURDERCAT]

I think Narwhal is Random Canadian?

Correct

[MURDERCAT]

Xof, what do you make of BM?

[MURDERCAT]

Also, something not clear in the BM iso is that me and others (xof I think) tried to get more info out of BM about the taylor read and he didn't engage, which I feel like he definitely would have if it was a real death tunnel

[MURDERCAT]

Is there anyone who is reading town on BM right now? If so, please explain

[PlusJOYED]

what would you say is the most solvey thing you've done, Noraa

I've tried to solve multiple slots. I've tried to solve plus and you for the most part. Cobra isnt even someone I'm really trying too much to solve. I just dislike some things about them is all.

lamist here

[PlusJOYED]

Spoiler:

Don't use ongoing games as the basis for your read then hint vaguely at it in the game thread while never explaining anything, it NEVER goes well for you

ah he can't explain because its ongoing?
that's bullshit. ongoing = no reason at all.
ongoing also = easy way to make it seem like ur solving when ur fucking not.

I am his strongest SR yet the only evidence he has is an ongoing game?
No. If I was the strongest SR that deserves the vote(which is on me in case anyone missed that), he will have more reason that just "ohh ongoing game whoopsie can't say why"

I can understand using ongoing games to judge someone and not being able to elaborate but if ur vote is on someone, u cannot fucking brush it off and be like "nope got no reasons that I can tell u cuz the games ongoing"

No. fucking no. if your only reason is one singular game in general(tiny tiny sample size), that reason is already absolute garbage.

not to mention hiding behind a site rule to not elaborate on a read.

If I am a top SR, u literally cannot not provide a single reason. There is no way a reason based 100% on meta and one singular game can be good. You will provide a reason for SRing me otherwise I will literally death tunnel you

plus you better give me a damn reason otherwise I am pushing you to hell and back for not being able to defend a single read and for throwing shade at me for no literal reason.

as others have stated i can't go hard in depth cuz site rules. But you love tunneling elimable slots like me as scum and I've never seen you tunnel like this as town. You also come off as lamisty to me

[PlusJOYED]

upsetti spaghetti Noraa is currently present in the chat

Spoiler:

cute bear at least

[PlusJOYED]

I feel like I've totally lost the thread of this game, I need to do some iso dives. Where is xofelf?

hmmmmm
how probable is it that they dipped as soon as the spotlight turned away from them?