Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[Noraa]

none of them switched that mindset I don't think.

[PlusJOYED]

in that case, why are half the people voting outside me vs Noraa? I'm confused as to why that's happening.

[Noraa]

Would scum plus rather they all voted him out instead?

[MURDERCAT]

This game feels like it is going nowhere fast. We have 3 days left. Need to see more from xof and Dunn.

Scum is probably just coasting because town is being lazy. I posted a case on BM. Can people please either engage with it or make a new case?

[MURDERCAT]

Gamma please come help me out here

[Noraa]

I made a case on plus and you haven't engaged with it much. I already told you what I think of BM. BM will not be the lim today since literally only 2 people think he's scum. Wait no sorry 3. But like Taylor's whole case is OMGUSy asf and Taylor's not being her town self this game anyways.

[MURDERCAT]

It feels like you and Plus are just noise right now to be perfectly honest.

Who else is scum Noraa?

[PlusJOYED]

This is why tunnels are often bad for town
Upon reread Taylor has been acting kinda weird after start of the game. Like they've been very bloodthirsty I'd say and have flopped quite a bit + active lurking imo.

[Battle Mage]

This game feels like it is going nowhere fast. We have 3 days left. Need to see more from xof and Dunn.

Scum is probably just coasting because town is being lazy. I posted a case on BM. Can people please either engage with it or make a new case?

you're actually standing by that case on me!?

Don't worry buddy, I'll answer your little challenge.

[MURDERCAT]

371 is tayl0r's best post, let's analyze it. What do you see plus? What do you see Noraa?

[MURDERCAT]

This game feels like it is going nowhere fast. We have 3 days left. Need to see more from xof and Dunn.

Scum is probably just coasting because town is being lazy. I posted a case on BM. Can people please either engage with it or make a new case?

you're actually standing by that case on me!?

Don't worry buddy, I'll answer your little challenge.

What have you done to respond to it? Not much, IMO

[Battle Mage]

Noraa look at BM for me, what do you see?

BM behaves exactly like this as town yet not like this as scum.

Say more? Respond to what I posted?

lol this is hopeless^. It reads like you are begging people to buy into your half-baked arguments. You asked Noraa for a read, she gave you one, and you didn't like it and asked for her another.

[PlusJOYED]

I liked some of ur case on bm murder and some of it I didn't like. I agree him dropping taylor and then flopping a lot has been weird but I think you've been flopping too murdercat.
I've been liking cobra more.

[Battle Mage]

Murdercat, apparently you missed it - here's my appraisal of your BM-case:

Ok I'm going to case Battle Mage.

90 misinterps Tayl0r as I pointed out at the time. I think this comes from a fast read of the post looking for something to poke at more often than it comes from town who I think would genuinely read it.

110 feels realllllly weak to me still along with 121

I think all the defeated language around 229 is fake

589 is totally inconsistent with the push on Tayl0r which obviously lost steam.

593 feels like a sheep of Isis and to be honest I don't see it

Including 600 BM just has way too many scum reads and not enough town reads. What really sticks out is how it feels like the Tayl0r push just got totally dropped and Tayl0r did nothing to deserve it being dropped if it was a genuine read.

VOTE: Battle Mage

Taylor 'push' was not dropped as such. She is still my top scumread and has been throughout. I just stopped labouring the point cause I was getting loads of shit about it so I've been taking more of a backseat.

I don't think having too many scumreads and not many townreads is scummy - objectively I'd normally consider that a towntell as it doesn't benefit BM-scum to attack everyone and piss everyone off.

post 593 is me saying Exorcists is my top townread. You say it's a sheep of Isis? I don't know how you jumped to that conclusion. Isis is one of my prime scumreads so doesn't make sense I'd be sheeping her reads even if I was scum. In reality I just Iso'd Exorcists and decided they seemed like the towniest slot. If you want to debate that point, we can?

post 589 is a random read on egotisi. I don't know what you think that has to do with Taylor - you'll have to explain that one.

This doesn't feel to me like a good-faith case, and certainly not a credible one. It's also written in such a way as to conceal it's weaknesses, which is telling in itself.

[MURDERCAT]

Plus I think you'll enjoy watching real time as BM manages to find a 7th SR on me despite the fact that it makes 0 sense for me to push BM at this stage of the game as scum.

[Noraa]

The problem is that Taylor is scummy as town always but she isnt her normal scummy here :/

[PlusJOYED]

I'm with Taylor on X being scum. I do think the RC wagon falling apart doesn't mean much since it formed in RVS

[MURDERCAT]

I saw it BM, it mostly boils down to "No I didn't drop taylor" (despite you not voting there)

"I don't think the thing you think is scummy is scummy"

593 happened independently, which I can't confirm or deny

[egotisi]

I posted a case on BM. Can people please either engage with it or make a new case?

Uh yeah, one thing that really struck out was

593 feels like a sheep of Isis and to be honest I don't see it

I like BM's recent posts

What made you change your mind here?

Also, having too many scum reads isn't a case for being scum. Having too many null reads is the shitty fence-sitting position.

-ego

[Tayl0r Swift]

ive read through p34. did anyone else notice that BM's reads seem to all agree with isis but BM scumreads isis?

[MURDERCAT]

About 589, I am referring to "i would flip egotisi today." which feels very strange considering you pushed so hard on Tayl0r

[MURDERCAT]

What made you change your mind here?

Rereading the iso in context

[PlusJOYED]

I'm not voting day 1:
egotisi
jewels
taylor
isis
cobra
exorcists

big maybe: bm, murdercat, Dunn, or RC

Prefered: X or Noraa

[Battle Mage]

I did a quick ISO of Murdercat, following my dismantling of his case on me - see spoiler. Incredibly, these are almost consecutive posts, all trying to pressure and cajole people into voting for me. What is missing is:

A. A proper rebuttal to my dismantling of his case.
B. Any real attempt to take my subsequent comments into account in evaluating my slot.

In short, I think if Murdercat is town, this is a pretty lazy effort. Doing 1 ISO, and then just tunnelling that slot even against a coherent well-evidenced defence isn't benchmark town-play. Rather than have a proper discussion with me and discuss the merits and demerits, his preference is to dismiss my response and continue to appeal to the majority. It's possible he could play that way as town, but it feels pretty disingenuous and opportunistic - he tried to pick me off when I was barely following/posting, so could have seen me as an easy target to pressure, if not successfully mis-elim.

I just struggle with the idea that Murdercat-town actually buys into his own case because it's so objectively weak. So I'm leaning scum who got his hand caught in the cookie jar, and mistakenly tried to double-down.

Spoiler:

Xof, what do you make of BM?

Also, something not clear in the BM iso is that me and others (xof I think) tried to get more info out of BM about the taylor read and he didn't engage, which I feel like he definitely would have if it was a real death tunnel

Is there anyone who is reading town on BM right now? If so, please explain

hmmmmm
how probable is it that they dipped as soon as the spotlight turned away from them?

This is what I noticed, even the recent posts have not really had a lot of content

Noraa look at BM for me, what do you see?

BM behaves exactly like this as town yet not like this as scum.

Say more? Respond to what I posted?

This game feels like it is going nowhere fast. We have 3 days left. Need to see more from xof and Dunn.

Scum is probably just coasting because town is being lazy. I posted a case on BM. Can people please either engage with it or make a new case?

Gamma please come help me out here

[Battle Mage]

ive read through p34. did anyone else notice that BM's reads seem to all agree with isis but BM scumreads isis?

I didn't, but Murdercat said the same thing so I'm sure it's correct! Not sure what significance it holds though? Gimme some motive to work with!