Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[Bell]

That is not unusual.

[Bell]

In a vig game recently my policy was literally whoever shoots at me first is more likely to be scum than random.
So I shot at scum and we both missed. Lel.

[Tammy]

Who are your scum reads?

[Bell]

Cakes, peta, and surprisingly, alisae.
But none of them are strong reads.

The lovers aren’t masons right? From a balance perspective there seems to be an issue with that not being the case tho.

[Cabd]

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Is the entire lower bracket death-pacted to not read the fucking game?

[Bell]

Leave me alone. I obviously have brain problems this game.

[Cabd]

There was literally a three page back and forth about the lovers EXPLICITLY being masons.

My entire setup spec theoryposting covers how the lovers are masons.

There's easily 100 posts that talk about the lovers being masons in this game thread.

[Bell]

Internally I think something is fucking wrong Cabd.

[Bell]

Like are you seriously a vig. Why the fuck haven’t you shot me yet if you literally said you would claim a cop guilty on me if you could?

[Alisae]

he's novice

[Tammy]

A mason lover doctor and a mason lover vig has some mice symmetry to it actuallu

[Cabd]

Did you not read the claim and like... the pages of discussion on how we are gonna optimally play with the vig shots, bell?

[Cabd]

I am an actual Mason.

Not psuedo-mason, but literal "You are a Mason" masons.

My role as it is written, I am lovers, millers, and masons, with my flavor-sibling.

Independently of that, I am a novice vig. I have pizza ready to hand out. Deep dish, as in the Varsoon hydra town vig that got day one eliminated in that one large normal.

I'll at most get the one shot off, but it'll keep us on odds when I die and my little bro goes with me.

Something_Smart will be along shortly to put your doubts to rest.

I'm such a nice guy I went back and quoted it for you!

[Bell]

he's novice

I’d say be more clear but I’d be a hypocrite if I said that wouldn’t I.
*sigh*

Be more clear. Assume i’m a total idiot when it comes to power roles because I am a total idiot when it comes to power roles.

I lost a game recently in which I thought (no shit) it made sense for the baby sitter and odd/even doc/cop to be town in a game with a gunsmith, watcher, day 3 gun smith. Baby sitter. Town-something where they can only block town role blocker, vig+whatever the role that when eliminated gets to kill one player an odd doc/even cop and a neighborizor+motion detector were in the game. You were in that game for a very short time.

[Cabd]

Novice = Can act every night except night one.

[Bell]

Oh.

[Cabd]

The wiki is your friend.

[Bell]

Well, I just proved I was a novice at roles didn’t I?

[Bell]

Replace Alisae with MWB//Gamma then.
Or maybe gamma’s right and comedy option there are 4 scum traitors in this game.

[Bell]

Ugh there’s such an experience gap here.
*rolls around in embarassment*
Maybe I should mod games or something.

[Tammy]

&#(@($*$)=/#)+/)@/$:/:#

[petapan]

Well for starters I'd argue that both only becoming active when all of the conftown came out is scum indicative in itself
Both have been essentially attacking and trying to discredit the other people in the not-conftown pool who suspect them when it should be pretty obvious to both of them why they are suspected

uh, why is that first thing scum indicative? all the conftown coming out narrowed the pool significantly, making it easier to get a footing in this game. if anything, i would say disappearing when all the conftown appear is scummier, since you would imagine scum could get discouraged when that happens.

what

no that's like the exact opposite of reality and should be especially clear from your POV

look at it this way: we are in a reality where, unless you or bell are scum, virtually the entire groupscum faction went largely under the radar on day 1 and faced no serious pressure. sure, the traitor died, but up until now, whoever it is has done a very good job of keeping out of the spotlight. they have been successfully flying under the radar. suddenly half the game is claiming masons and the pool of potential votes just got very, very narrow. whoever it is can no longer afford to simply hide away, they have to suddenly appear the most town, they have to show WIM and effort, a sudden burst is likely to get viewed favorably.

like, no one here is a fucking slouch who's going to just quit when things get a little tricky and i don't know why you'd assume that people would get demotivated

And I also think if Bell is scum, Peta is very likely going to be their buddy

nah, but if he flips red (something i find myself waffling on quite a bit) i'll tell you who to bet the game on and then i don't care if i die

[petapan]

this is why having to actually do work sucks i was lurking but there's like a million posts i have to catch up on

[fferyllt]

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goddamnit

Can grpscum Bell convincingly act this out of touch with the game data?

[fferyllt]

Or is it a scumteam that collectively not processed the game data? And what the hell scum team would that be? bell, midway, ds maybe?