Open 797: Bus Service [Game Over]

[Almost50]

Also, PAGETOP

[ManWithNoName]

Hmmmm...

You, me, high noon!

[piisirrational]

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Vote Count

Big Elephant [2]:

MiniVirgo, Professor Mafia

JohnnyFarrar [2]:

derp, Big Elephant

Almost50 [2]:

Sesq, yessiree

Sesq [1]:

Sando

MiniVirgo [1]:

Almost50

Not_Mafia [1]:

Not_Mafia

Professor Mafia [1]:

JohnnyFarrar

yessiree [1]:

ManWithNoName

Sando [0]:

ManWithNoName [0]:

arachnidsGrip [0]:

wiyvern [0]:

dong [0]:

Not Voting [2]:

arachnidsGrip, wiyvern

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 players to eliminate someone.

Day 1 deadline is paused until all players confirm. arachnidsGrip has (expired on 2020-10-20 14:00:00) to confirm before I search for a replacement for them. Searching for replacements for Sando and Sesq.

That's THREE absent slots in a bloody mini!

4, wiyvern has not posted.

@mod surely, by now there needs to be some sort of action for wiyvern

I assume dong is supposed to be derp, but I have seen nothing from any dong.

Yup that's right, I mistyped that slot. I will be prodding wiyvern.

[Almost50]

town especially in early game has 100% a reason to be proactive and SOLVE the game, while scum do not, they're still getting a feel for everything

Another example of how we perceive thing

totally

different. In my view, Town have NOTHING to work with at the start of the game, but scum do. Town also are nor too worried about being SR'd at first, but Scum are. It thus follows Scum are much more likely to tryhard at the start of the game to (a) Appear Town, and (b) Try to direct the game. They already know where they want it to head, while Town are the one just "getting a feel for everything" (as you put it)

[Almost50]

so guess what
its page 10
it's readslist time (this is ordered btw town -> scum)

TOWN PARADISE
MiniVirgo
yessiree
Not_Mafia
ManWithNoName
derp
TBD
Sando
Sesq
Almost50
arachnidsGrip
wiyvern
SCUM ZONE
Professor Mafia
JohnnyFarrar

FGS, don't post full readlists. It doesn't matter how accurate/inaccurate your reads are. Scum use THAT to decide on their kills.

[ManWithNoName]

Spoiler: The real scum

[Almost50]

serious talk: kinda actually think A50 might be red here

Thank you... I guess

[Almost50]

I take back my SR on Johnny

seems like a really out-of-place trajectory without reasoning imo, even if johnny is town
-S

I wish I had read this before I did give reason.

[Almost50]

seems like a really out-of-place trajectory without reasoning imo, even if johnny is town

+ a lot of that ISO is rather fluffpost-y and they kinda keep taking back Srs for random reasons + they still haven't made their TRs list public weirdly
-S

I'll forgive you because I ahdn't said it before you posted this: I DO NOT OUT MY TRS IN IN SETUPS. IT'S BAD PRACTICE THAT BENEFITS SCUM MORE,

Here's a bloody example of why

In that game, not only did I correctly identify the Mafia Roleblocker (and made a case on them) towards the end of D1, but I ALSO PM'd the mod with the

correct

guess of who the Doctor was. I simply kept the Doctor in my PoE to protect her (and me revoking the SR on D2 resulted in her getting NK'd on N2).

In that game you can ALSO see that was most careless and posted fluff for almost half of D1. I only turned serious when I had a bit of a grasp of the situation, and could make some sense of everyone's play (I was wrong on the Scum Goon guess, but hey, I corrected it on D3).

If you want to meta-dive me more, go ahead. If not, then just accept the fact that I have a different playstyle, different approach to the game, and that I can actually READ.

P.S. Not in anyway, shape or form trying to crumb anything here. Just because I was Cop in that game doesn't mean I also rolled Cop here. I didn't even start the game with my catch phrase "Come On People!" so I can't be Cop, now can I??

[Almost50]

Also feels like shutting down mech talk when it's clearly protown to try and find optimal strategy imo

You keep asserting everything is "clearly" something or the other, when you "clearly" don't have a clue of what you're talking about. Sheesh! I had better step aside (or at least stop debating with you) before I lose it.

[Almost50]

I think A50 is town for saying that ngl, but that read only just came RN they were null-town beforehand.

- JV

OK, so Town!You TRs me and Scum!You SRs me (that's what I got from our mutual experiences so far)

[Almost50]

no you suggested hypoclaiming, they suggested playing it like mountainous, and at the time you didn't say anything about playing like all-vanilla.

that's quite clearly two different things
-S

Let's ignore the fact the Cop isn't even reliable here. Let's just assume their checks are 100% true.

Now let's say the Cop got a guilty on N1. What do you propose they do? Claim it?? Good. Now the Cop is 100% dead and we still have 2 more scums to look for. GOOD JOB.

Now repeat that hypothesis assuming the Cop guilty wasn't a guilty (i.e. was the result of a Scum BD on the Cop's target).

[Almost50]

I think A50 is town for saying that ngl, but that read only just came RN they were null-town beforehand.

like... why

why is shutting down the finding of optimal strategies in open setups town!AI
I just don't get anything from you atm
-S

VOTE: Big Elephant

This is another "Fuzzy", and I really don't care for it to live to Elo and fuck up all my work.

[Almost50]

^This means I DO NOT CARE what it flips. It's going to lose us the game either way. People who know NOTHING about ANYTHING who insist their's is the right way and ONLY right way are the reason why Town loses their games.

[Almost50]

can you comprehend someone taking back SRs as soon as their scumread target starts delivering *some* content as town? that's more like flip-flopping.

its not a logical progression at all imo
-S

The player who has been playing for four whole months is telling ME what the best approach to the game is, and how to develop my reads!

[Almost50]

I often start to SR them and then take it back after seeing a post and/or actually thinking about what I said after I said it and change my mind on it.

That's an outright lie. You usually SR me because I FoS you (correctly). Period.

[Almost50]

I often start to SR them and then take it back after seeing a post and/or actually thinking about what I said after I said it and change my mind on it.

ehhhhhhh

but immediately. note that there were no posts in between the johnny progression.

I always post as I catch up. I am responding to THIS post now. I have not read anything beyond 268 yet. Maybe I will change my mind about you when I read the post you make after this one and there will be no other posts between this one and my next one.

[Almost50]

Johnny/Professor Mafia/?

No. It's Johnny, Sando & derp, I think.

like this

I take back my SR on Johnny

then this with no johnny posts for A50 to change his mind, nor explanation as to the why
how is this a logical trajectory
-S

As I said, the first was a response to 109 by N_M, and that was where I had read up to. The second was based on a sequence of posts starting with 115 and ending at 120. You're the smartest of your siblings, aren't you?

[ManWithNoName]

You know this is like grade school where you need to show your work.

[ManWithNoName]

Like, how can you possibly use a full 50+ posts to change your mind?

[Almost50]

@JV: I'll et you sort shelly as you seem to know her better. I only know her as a Mafia Goon from Manatee's Musical Mafia which was my only experience with her so far.

[Almost50]

The more I read from shelly's posts the more I envy Sando/Sesq/arachnidsGrip/Battle Mage/wiyvern/Scum Hunter (obviously regardless of anyone's alignment as there's bound to be at least one scum in 5 random slots)

[Almost50]

overjustification is a scumtell

I thought you SR'd me because I offered NO JUSTIFICATION.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Prof Mafia

I think this is where I want to be for the time being.

Get back on the elephant, Mr. Eastwood! NOW, please.

[ManWithNoName]

VOTE: Prof Mafia

I think this is where I want to be for the time being.

Get back on the elephant, Mr. Eastwood! NOW, please.

I was never on the elephant. But, I'm considering it.