Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[MURDERCAT]

it's a shame noraa is capable of a fake townslip as scum. otherwise that would have been good.

Do you know this for a fact?

[Battle Mage]

yeah

is it too late to flip Taylor today? I'm very ambitious still

[Infinity 324]

yeah

is it too late to flip Taylor today? I'm very ambitious still

Still don't really get why you want to do this lol

[Battle Mage]

yeah

is it too late to flip Taylor today? I'm very ambitious still

Still don't really get why you want to do this lol

just trust me.

i am so so sure. she is being protected by her buddies. if we can push through a scum-elim today, with their night firepower, we swing the game massively in our favour.

[Noraa]

it's a shame noraa is capable of a fake townslip as scum. otherwise that would have been good.

Do you know this for a fact?

I am definitely capable of doing it.

[Battle Mage]

my balls to the wall solve is....

Taylor-Noraa-Xofelf

[Battle Mage]

just from reading ISOs mostly

[Noraa]

BM I still feel like BMvTaylor was a big hissy fight that actually provided zero content

[Battle Mage]

not true

[Battle Mage]

the time for posturing is over though. last call for the Taylor elim please before my inevitable death tonight! Gimme a dying wish!

[Infinity 324]

Don't see it sorry

[MURDERCAT]

the time for posturing is over though. last call for the Taylor elim please before my inevitable death tonight! Gimme a dying wish!

I will read ego, taylor and noraa again because I've been really fence sitty towards all of them to be honest

[Noraa]

BM why are you voting me but then pushing a Taylor wagon hard?

[Battle Mage]

there must be some town players somewhere in this game - whoever you are, show some kahunas and sheep me

[Battle Mage]

BM why are you voting me but then pushing a Taylor wagon hard?

because taylor is my preference elim, but realistically i have to elim you as 2nd choice unless i can get a big swing of votes towards her.

[Noraa]

Yet you are not realistically throwing a shit shit shit ton of shade toward her. If you really think its not a possibility, u wouldn't be doing this.

[Noraa]

Plus Im fairly certain you put me at like E-1 without announcing. If anyone runs in and "accidentally hammers" fucking yeet them to hell tomorrow.

[MURDERCAT]

I think you only have like 4 votes Noraa.

[Noraa]

I couldn't find a vc anywhere. sorry bout that. There were a lot of votes that ig like switched on and off and other random stuff and yeah.

[Infinity 324]

Murder who's scum?

[MURDERCAT]

Murder who's scum?

You're really gunna do me like that? Fine I'll read the isos

[Infinity 324]

Lol I know I still have 4 people I haven't really given reads on but if you have doubts about the current wagons it'd be nice to hear them now so we have a chance to start a new one

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler: egoposts

i think we've already learnt quite a lot. an unusually high number of people defending taylor without grounds.

who is actually defending taylor here? like is "not instavoting taylor the second BM asks for it" = "defending taylor"?

murdercat climbing up my reads with 268/269

hmm
isis, why are 279/280 towny to you? like they read like null-to-maaaaybe-nullscum posts to me

i found this a bit surprising, at this point i was feeling like i had like one and a half weak townread (exorcists and maaaybe murdercat) with a whole buncha people either being null or south of null (RanCan for stuff, BM with the questionable push, and xof/norwee feeling active-lurky)

Can you explain what you mean by active-lurky?

active lurking is like, posting meaningless post to appear to be contributing
both your and xof's posts neatly fit into that
like up to that point you were what, making an excuse why you won't post much because logging in is difficult, voting the mod, and joking about clint eastwood

is that all you wanna say after 7 pages? do you have any reads?

-tisi

VOTE: xofelf

The fact that so many people are throwing shade here when I am totally null on them makes me suspicious. Sorry tayl0r, come vote here now let's see what happens.

This is feels like a non-reason(?) for a vote. You find them suspicious because other people find them suspicious? Do you have any other reasons for finding them scummy?

Also:

VOTE: RandomCanadian

I am going to very blatantly hop on this wagon because [reasons to be revealed later]

UNVOTE: by the way, served it's purpose

The idea was that there is likely scum on the wagon, just because it's easier to get 5 votes from 13 players than 10. If you remember from Noir, you had an early wagon on you that involved a vote from PP. I think that scum often takes the opportunity to distance with an early wagon, so I had a theory that Random Canadian might be scum getting hit by that distance vote (also I saw that Random Canadian had logged on but not posted in this thread, which seemed a little off to me considering how early into the game we were). Either way I was curious how votes would react as the wagon accelerated. It's probably not super useful right now but I think it will be nice to look back on after we get some flips. I did hate Isis's vote to leave the wagon but she did the exact same thing in Noir (and I hated it there too ). I'm not sure what to make of your unvote and revote.

Murdercat's progression on this feels off. You give no explanation for it, the wagon deflates after you voted, then you unvote and say it's for a test and it valuable after flips.

Why did you unvote rather than change to a different wagon? I know this may sound menial, but usually unvoting is a reaction to a post or something someone said.

-ego

Just gunna point some stuff out as I see it. These posts directly contradict, but are from different heads. I'm not really sure what to make of that, is that just something that happens? Makes me feel like they were not discussing in PT, but I'm not sure why scum wouldn't be aligned in who they are pushing? But maybe it's not that important for scum to be aligned with a push early? I don't have a strong AI read on this but I am curious if anyone makes anything from it.

[MURDERCAT]

BM is annoying me because he seems to still be scumreading taylor hard (who i'm currently leaning town on too), but also seems alergic to actually explaining/presenting that read

I think this is interesting given the eventual vote on me for me basically saying the same thing about BM

[Infinity 324]

Spoiler: egoposts

i think we've already learnt quite a lot. an unusually high number of people defending taylor without grounds.

who is actually defending taylor here? like is "not instavoting taylor the second BM asks for it" = "defending taylor"?

murdercat climbing up my reads with 268/269

hmm
isis, why are 279/280 towny to you? like they read like null-to-maaaaybe-nullscum posts to me

i found this a bit surprising, at this point i was feeling like i had like one and a half weak townread (exorcists and maaaybe murdercat) with a whole buncha people either being null or south of null (RanCan for stuff, BM with the questionable push, and xof/norwee feeling active-lurky)

Can you explain what you mean by active-lurky?

active lurking is like, posting meaningless post to appear to be contributing
both your and xof's posts neatly fit into that
like up to that point you were what, making an excuse why you won't post much because logging in is difficult, voting the mod, and joking about clint eastwood

is that all you wanna say after 7 pages? do you have any reads?

-tisi

VOTE: xofelf

The fact that so many people are throwing shade here when I am totally null on them makes me suspicious. Sorry tayl0r, come vote here now let's see what happens.

This is feels like a non-reason(?) for a vote. You find them suspicious because other people find them suspicious? Do you have any other reasons for finding them scummy?

Also:

VOTE: RandomCanadian

I am going to very blatantly hop on this wagon because [reasons to be revealed later]

UNVOTE: by the way, served it's purpose

The idea was that there is likely scum on the wagon, just because it's easier to get 5 votes from 13 players than 10. If you remember from Noir, you had an early wagon on you that involved a vote from PP. I think that scum often takes the opportunity to distance with an early wagon, so I had a theory that Random Canadian might be scum getting hit by that distance vote (also I saw that Random Canadian had logged on but not posted in this thread, which seemed a little off to me considering how early into the game we were). Either way I was curious how votes would react as the wagon accelerated. It's probably not super useful right now but I think it will be nice to look back on after we get some flips. I did hate Isis's vote to leave the wagon but she did the exact same thing in Noir (and I hated it there too ). I'm not sure what to make of your unvote and revote.

Murdercat's progression on this feels off. You give no explanation for it, the wagon deflates after you voted, then you unvote and say it's for a test and it valuable after flips.

Why did you unvote rather than change to a different wagon? I know this may sound menial, but usually unvoting is a reaction to a post or something someone said.

-ego

Just gunna point some stuff out as I see it. These posts directly contradict, but are from different heads. I'm not really sure what to make of that, is that just something that happens? Makes me feel like they were not discussing in PT, but I'm not sure why scum wouldn't be aligned in who they are pushing? But maybe it's not that important for scum to be aligned with a push early? I don't have a strong AI read on this but I am curious if anyone makes anything from it.

I think it’s probably more likely to come from town, since scum would probably be more careful about checking with their hydra partner to make sure they didn’t mess up. Not super AI though imo.