Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[MURDERCAT]

Honestly there is .. not much there? I don't know reading through the iso I think I didn't give it enough credit I think there is real game solving going on. Gunna go look at the case against ego

[MURDERCAT]

I'm going to switch to VOTE: egotisi, because I don't think either head has responded to me and that could very well be GeorgeBailey still horrified of my history catching him and consciously or subconsciously not wanting to keep me on the agenda.

Weak vote

[MURDERCAT]

I’m honestly really happy with the direction we’re going in.

VOTE: egotisi

Weak vote

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: egotisi
While I'm a bit skeptical of Infinity's motives currently, I also think we've kinda been stuck talking about a few slots and a wagon here shakes that up a bit.

-GAMMA

Weak vote. What are we actually doing here?

[MURDERCAT]

Talk to me about ego infinity because I'm not seeing it. On to Tayl0r

[MURDERCAT]

Why are you so sure it won't?

i mean it could if the town PRs fuck up and are dumb. but they just have to feign ignorance and not be like "well im the cop so in all the scenarios i consider, therell be a cop"... like if it outs town PRs then itll out scum too, who are also TMI. itll take 2 seconds to go through and look at the possible options for town with 8 points, and then to look at which ones dont make sense given the scum roles.

I really don't think Tayl0r is this bold as scum? I know BM is sure, but like, can you actually imagine typing this out and pressing submit as scum?

[MURDERCAT]

plus lets start a counterwagon on dunnstral

VOTE: dunnstral

Why this as scum?

[Infinity 324]

Why are you so sure it won't?

i mean it could if the town PRs fuck up and are dumb. but they just have to feign ignorance and not be like "well im the cop so in all the scenarios i consider, therell be a cop"... like if it outs town PRs then itll out scum too, who are also TMI. itll take 2 seconds to go through and look at the possible options for town with 8 points, and then to look at which ones dont make sense given the scum roles.

I really don't think Tayl0r is this bold as scum? I know BM is sure, but like, can you actually imagine typing this out and pressing submit as scum?

I think she really believes what she’s saying regardless of alignment, don’t think it’s

too

bold but ehh

1112 is what I got on egotisi, I’m seeing quite a bit of parroting and questions that don’t really lead anywhere and in general an effort to look useful from egotisi. Note that Alice expressed suspicion of egotisi earlier so that vote makes sense, you have a point about the isis and jewel votes though.

[MURDERCAT]

The biggest thing that is +Tayl0r scum for me is that there is not that much solving, but I kinda like what is there.

I really don't have energy to read Noraa iso, but I will tomorrow.

I still don't really like xofelf? (as in your alignment, I'm sure you're very nice.)

BM I wavered on because it seems so weird for him to town slip like that as scum.

I kinda feel like it might be something like {xof, Dunn, ?} where ? is someone who is active but I have a bad read on.

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah I mean I guess I see that POV and I did feel like the read on me re the BM stuff kinda came out of nowhere. But I don't know, is there anything in ego's iso that doesn't apply to Dunn? I think Dunn's ego vote was literally the first thing he said about ego all game.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah I mean I guess I see that POV and I did feel like the read on me re the BM stuff kinda came out of nowhere. But I don't know, is there anything in ego's iso that doesn't apply to Dunn? I think Dunn's ego vote was literally the first thing he said about ego all game.

The difference is that dunn isn’t try to look like he’s doing stuff.

[Infinity 324]

I’ll have to check dunn’s meta again, he does seem to be a bit more cautious than I remember him.

[Tayl0r Swift]

my balls to the wall solve is....

Taylor-Noraa-Xofelf

yes me and my two top scumreads are totally the scumteam.

[Noraa]

This is actually probably my most high effort game ever. Not sure what about it makes me go insane but I'm on here a shit ton. sorry my isos long tho :/

[Tayl0r Swift]

the time for posturing is over though. last call for the Taylor elim please before my inevitable death tonight! Gimme a dying wish!

BM are you doing something ive done in the past?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i dont like that xof doesnt seem to be a viable wagon despite being a universal scumread.

[Noraa]

Spoiler:

I don't think you've grasped what my town tells are then

I personally have not paid too much attention to what my tells are however I do not think they are consistent because people always read me wrong. if you think you know my town tells, you don't unless you get my alignment right like 5 games in a row.

ive seen noraa enough as both alignments now to be able to sort her pretty confidently.

If you actually think this(meaning if you are town), prepare to never be able to sort me ever again. Overconfidence is going to ruin your reads on me. You should take a quick lookie at my latest town game. You've *never* played with town!Noraa before. Similarities to scum!Noraa doesnt mean scum cuz it'd be weird if my town game and scum game had zero similarities so that's not really a valid point at all :/

what are the differences?
ik u say there are secret town tells and whatever shit but its best u spill a few cuz I am town here and idk what random ass scum tells/town tells u found on me but they are not reliable and I'm sure I can reference finished games to show you why.

idk what you found to be absolutely honest but whatever ur method of sorting me is, its not working and I'm sure I can point out why if you'll clarify the biggest points.

Taylor I've tried to engage you to get you to explain your SR on me multiple times. I think it's time you responded. You have not provided any reasons on why I'm scum. In fact, if I think on it, you actually have less reasons than plus does.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Spoiler:

I don't think you've grasped what my town tells are then

I personally have not paid too much attention to what my tells are however I do not think they are consistent because people always read me wrong. if you think you know my town tells, you don't unless you get my alignment right like 5 games in a row.

ive seen noraa enough as both alignments now to be able to sort her pretty confidently.

If you actually think this(meaning if you are town), prepare to never be able to sort me ever again. Overconfidence is going to ruin your reads on me. You should take a quick lookie at my latest town game. You've *never* played with town!Noraa before. Similarities to scum!Noraa doesnt mean scum cuz it'd be weird if my town game and scum game had zero similarities so that's not really a valid point at all :/

what are the differences?
ik u say there are secret town tells and whatever shit but its best u spill a few cuz I am town here and idk what random ass scum tells/town tells u found on me but they are not reliable and I'm sure I can reference finished games to show you why.

idk what you found to be absolutely honest but whatever ur method of sorting me is, its not working and I'm sure I can point out why if you'll clarify the biggest points.

ive stated my reasons pretty clearly. im not gonna go into the meta tells. stop fishing.

Taylor I've tried to engage you to get you to explain your SR on me multiple times. I think it's time you responded. You have not provided any reasons on why I'm scum. In fact, if I think on it, you actually have less reasons than plus does.

[Noraa]

except all of your reasons against me are meta. so you should go into detail.

[Tayl0r Swift]

except all of your reasons against me are meta. so you should go into detail.

no because other people scumread you for other reasons. if i ever die then people will take me more seriously anyway.

[Noraa]

they SR me for other stuff but YOU only SR me for meta reasons and have not sheeped or stated that you agree with any other reasons.

[Tayl0r Swift]

they SR me for other stuff but YOU only SR me for meta reasons and have not sheeped or stated that you agree with any other reasons.

i dont see why id need to. i agree with most of but not all of the other reasons. for example i think xof's reasons are largely NAI for you.

[Noraa]

Nice. I think ur town. Pointing out zofelfs reasons are NAI is good. This quick convo has me pretty convinced you are town. This reasoning makes me think of you in On this Day.

TRs: Taylor, Zofelf

not sorted or currently untunneling: everyone else

SRs:Infinity, BM

[MURDERCAT]

Why BM Noraa?

[Noraa]

I personally find all three hydras pretty towny so idk what to think there but those are all town leans that are subject to change.